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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:54 pm

DrEvil » Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:07 pm wrote:
...

And yes, I think it was correct policy to vaccinate as many as possible, because there weren't really any good alternatives
...

My reasons for believing the above are simple: it's what we did where I live and it (so far at least) worked. The majority of people are vaccinated, restrictions are lifted and life is back to normal.


Seems mass vaccination wasn't the answer after all in Norway (or any other highly vaccinated country). That is, if the objective is to 'get back to normal'.

@ianmSC

Dec. 5, 2021

All of the sudden, cases in Norway are 244% higher than Sweden and they’re approaching the highest numbers seen in Sweden this year

Bizarre how all of these countries praised for “controlling infections” suddenly stop being able to control them, isn’t it?

Image

https://twitter.com/ianmSC/status/14675 ... 85958?s=20

There will always be another variant to blame, another excuse to have yet another leaky shot (with limited, waning protection at best, along with demonstrably damaging near-term side effect potential) forced on the populace regardless of prior infection or risk profile.

The only way we return to any semblance of 'normal' is to stop complying with egregious govt overreach.

---------------

Personal side-note: after over 2 yrs of taking reasonable (pre-2020 era) precautions, i came down with covid a few days ago (my wife and I both fell ill within a couple days of each other). Overall, symptoms have been consistent with mild flu.
I already had a stockpile of Vitamins D and C, zinc and Quercetin. Using resources from FLCCC, we managed to find a doc that prescribed Ivermectin for us. After a few days of treatment we are now largely without symptoms.

And we're also now naturally immune.

I understand, of course, that everyone has different risk thresholds, but it's simply wrong to suggest/believe there are no alternatives other than these (harmful, leaky) covid shots. The above regimen not only helped me/my wife, i know many others first-hand that fared well using similar treatment protocols (as outlined in the link below).
I'm also aware of a number of co-workers and neighbors that had great results with monoclonal antibodies (though not as accessible in some regions as it may have been for Joe Rogan or Aaron Rodgers...)

It's criminal that these treatments aren't readily available and promoted in all healthcare facilities, hospitals, or by the majority of healthcare professionals.

Regulatory capture has caused harms and loss of untold lives.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-1 ... -protocol/
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:51 pm

I'm so angry with these motherfuckers, I don't know what to do with it.
And while we spoke of many things, fools and kings
This he said to me
"The greatest thing
You'll ever learn
Is just to love
And be loved
In return"


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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:24 pm

drstrangelove » 05 Dec 2021 06:30 wrote:I've been thinking that in light of the popularity of traffic light analogies used to convey the responsibility people have to comply with vaccination, most notably Noam Chomsky, if there will be some attempt made rather soon, maybe a year or two, at using genomic testing as evidence to charge unvaccinated people with involuntary manslaughter.

If vaccines are being made mandatory this isn't really that far fetched. Covid testing has already allowed for the build up of large population wide DNA databases that can match against samples taken from people seriously ill or declared dead from covid. There would no doubt be families wanting to seek damages, just as there are people who throw themselves in front of cars.

In fact, the whole premise of a criminal justice system which upholds some sort of right to protection against transmissible disease is terrifying. I know the term gets thrown around a lot, but it would truely be kafkaesque. The government would inform you of the crimes you unwittingly committed, and then prosecute you using evidence only they have knowledge of.

It's so terrifying one would best become vaccinated and stay so.

what another wonderful little gem technology has gifted us with. the ability to attribute more and more accountability through an ever pervasive knowledge of ones own actions. I suppose pkd's concept of pre-crime is just the logical endpoint of this. Responsibility for the potentiality of your actions as proven by some fantastic new technology which allows others to see beyond what is within your will to control and attribute to you guilt using evidence you cannot refute.

But in the case of these vaccines, it would be as if everyone were running red lights and killing people, however only those without a drivers license are criminally charged. The assumption being that if you have a drivers license you wouldn't run a red light. So luckily the technology is too retarded to achieve any kind of a terrifyingly objective justification.

There is still hope that overspecialisation and overcompartmentalisation within the modern technology corporation can destroy the creativity required to make significant leaps towards such a future.


Now just think how many AI-calculated "deaths" this very internet thread has "caused" by getting others to question certain establishment narratives that have been so obviously prepared for own good.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby streeb » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:34 am

Belligerent Savant wrote:

Personal side-note: after over 2 yrs of taking reasonable (pre-2020 era) precautions, i came down with covid a few days ago (my wife and I both fell ill within a couple days of each other). Overall, symptoms have been consistent with mild flu. I already had a stockpile of Vitamins D and C, zinc and Quercetin. Using resources from FLCCC, we managed to find a doc that prescribed Ivermectin for us. After a few days of treatment we are now largely without symptoms.


Very happy to know you're both on the mend, and, without being cold-blooded about it, I'm sure you appreciate the value in having your beliefs tested in this way. I certainly appreciate hearing it from a voice I've come to respect and trust.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby DrEvil » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:52 am

Belligerent Savant » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:54 am wrote:
DrEvil » Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:07 pm wrote:
...

And yes, I think it was correct policy to vaccinate as many as possible, because there weren't really any good alternatives
...

My reasons for believing the above are simple: it's what we did where I live and it (so far at least) worked. The majority of people are vaccinated, restrictions are lifted and life is back to normal.


Seems mass vaccination wasn't the answer after all in Norway (or any other highly vaccinated country). That is, if the objective is to 'get back to normal'.

@ianmSC

Dec. 5, 2021

All of the sudden, cases in Norway are 244% higher than Sweden and they’re approaching the highest numbers seen in Sweden this year

Bizarre how all of these countries praised for “controlling infections” suddenly stop being able to control them, isn’t it?

Image

https://twitter.com/ianmSC/status/14675 ... 85958?s=20

There will always be another variant to blame, another excuse to have yet another leaky shot (with limited, waning protection at best, along with demonstrably damaging near-term side effect potential) forced on the populace regardless of prior infection or risk profile.

The only way we return to any semblance of 'normal' is to stop complying with egregious govt overreach.

---------------

Personal side-note: after over 2 yrs of taking reasonable (pre-2020 era) precautions, i came down with covid a few days ago (my wife and I both fell ill within a couple days of each other). Overall, symptoms have been consistent with mild flu.
I already had a stockpile of Vitamins D and C, zinc and Quercetin. Using resources from FLCCC, we managed to find a doc that prescribed Ivermectin for us. After a few days of treatment we are now largely without symptoms.

And we're also now naturally immune.

I understand, of course, that everyone has different risk thresholds, but it's simply wrong to suggest/believe there are no alternatives other than these (harmful, leaky) covid shots. The above regimen not only helped me/my wife, i know many others first-hand that fared well using similar treatment protocols (as outlined in the link below).
I'm also aware of a number of co-workers and neighbors that had great results with monoclonal antibodies (though not as accessible in some regions as it may have been for Joe Rogan or Aaron Rodgers...)

It's criminal that these treatments aren't readily available and promoted in all healthcare facilities, hospitals, or by the majority of healthcare professionals.

Regulatory capture has caused harms and loss of untold lives.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-1 ... -protocol/


Glad to hear you're both doing okay.

As for vaccines in Norway, here's some numbers released by the Institute of Public Health a couple of weeks ago:

People admitted to hospital with Covid-19 as their main diagnosis:

Unvaccinated: 12 out of every 100000 people
Median age: 47

Vaccinated: 1,5 out of every 100000 people
Median age: 78
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:16 am

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Cheers, streeb (and DrEvil).

Yes: having first-hand experience of covid and then pursuing treatment protocols (as "unvaccinated" individuals) was very informative, and gratifying. Thankful above all that she's (we're) well.

In full disclosure, i managed to feel better without taking ivermectin myself; my wife fell ill before i did so my priority was getting a prescription to her right away, and she noticeably improved (though neither of us were ever bedridden) once she added IVM to her treatment regimen.

A bit more context: wife also had a clot scare a few years ago, and despite this, doctors continued to pressure her to get the covid 'vaccine', citing clot risks from the virus itself.* She refused. Certainly not entirely because of whatever i've conveyed to her (she tends to tune me out after a while, more often than not -- a tendency that resonates with some here, i imagine -- and is far less invested in covid 'research' than I am, besides).
She decided against it largely for her own reasons, and lost her job at a nearby urgent care facility as a result.

While no 'one size fits all' approach exists for health, my experience only further underscores what a number of us have been conveying here for much of the last ~couple years.

* I theorize many GP doctors offer this advice largely with earnest intention, though some are also at least partially incentivized towards keeping their careers intact.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:36 am

Novavax to push forward with COVID-flu vaccine combo
US biotech Novavax is expecting results from an Australian study of a coronavirus and influenza vaccine at the start of next year, paving the way for the development of a combined jab to fight both diseases.

- https://www.theage.com.au/business/comp ... 59f3q.html

Maybe covid will become like the flu, a widely accepted part of everyday life, while the flu will become like covid, a widely accepted existential threat that requires compulsory and on-going medical intervention. They'll drop the term covid or flu altogether and just use the term health vaccine and health vaccine passport. Then everything can be added to the health vaccine. Eventually we could just forget about those various things and just use the word health. Have you got your health? Your health pass says you don't have your health? Why don't you have your health? Health is good, why don't you want to be healthy? Ohh it seems people aren't happy with their health. Let's add soma to the health vaccine because mental health is apart of being healthy.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:39 am

DrEvil » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:52 pm wrote:As for vaccines in Norway, here's some numbers released by the Institute of Public Health a couple of weeks ago:

People admitted to hospital with Covid-19 as their main diagnosis:

Unvaccinated: 12 out of every 100000 people
Median age: 47

Vaccinated: 1,5 out of every 100000 people
Median age: 78


How does Norway define 'unvaccinated'?

(Also: how is covid diagnosed at admission? By the expression of symptoms, or symptoms + PCR test result?)

In the U.S. (and other regions, i believe), per the CDC anyone that has not yet surpassed 14 days after their 2nd covid shot is considered 'unvaccinated'. This may have been recently revised further since the promotion of boosters; i'll need to circle back on this (by this i mean: "vaccinated" may now be defined by having at least 3 covid shots -- again, this needs to be confirmed).

Most vaccine adverse events occur within the first few days of receiving a shot, and 'breakthrough' infections can also occur inside this time window (the time from a first shot to 14 days after the 2nd shot). Either of these scenarios, given this criteria, would be tied to the 'unvaccinated', even if it occurs among those that received at least 1 covid shot.

This -- among other tricks of the statistics trade -- is only one of numerous ways covid figures related to cases, hospitalizations and deaths have been misleading/manipulated.


All that aside, those figures you cite, even if taken fully at face value, absolutely do NOT merit re-introducing restrictions of any sort, wouldn't you agree?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:36 am

So here's some conspiracy shit.

The BMJ has reviewed the documents, which show that regulators had major concerns over unexpectedly low quantities of intact mRNA in batches of the vaccine developed for commercial production.

EMA scientists tasked with ensuring manufacturing quality—the chemistry, manufacturing, and control aspects of Pfizer’s submission to the EMA—worried about “truncated and modified mRNA species present in the finished product.” Among the many files leaked to The BMJ, an email dated 23 November by a high ranking EMA official outlined a raft of issues. In short, commercial manufacturing was not producing vaccines to the specifications expected, and regulators were unsure of the implications. EMA responded by filing two “major objections” with Pfizer, along with a host of other questions it wanted addressed.

The email identified “a significant difference in % RNA integrity/truncated species” between the clinical batches and proposed commercial batches—from around 78% to 55%. The root cause was unknown and the impact of this loss of RNA integrity on safety and efficacy of the vaccine was “yet to be defined,” the email said.

- https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n627

At 7:14 in this Dec 23 2020 interview, BioNTech CEO Ugur Sahin appears to state plans for the production of a completely seperate vaccine batch for his company and corporate associates, which he says would be distinct from the batches being used commercially.


Which brings me to this now deleted post by Karl Denninger at market watch, who claims to have discovered an uneven distribution in deaths and adverse events across vaccine lot numbers.

The outcome distribution isn't "sort of close" when most of the lots have a single-digit number of associated deaths.
Isn't it also interesting that when one removes the "dead" flag the same sort of correlation shows up? That is, there are plenty of lots with nearly nothing reported against them. For Moderna within the first page of results (~85 lots) there is more than a three times difference in total adverse events. The worst lot, 039K20A with 87 deaths, is not only worst for deaths; it also has more than 4,000 total adverse event reports against it. For context if you drill down a couple hundred entries in that report the number of total adverse events against another lot, 025C21A number 417 with five deaths.
Are you really going to try to tell me that a mass-produced and distributed jab has a roughly ten times adverse event rate between two lots and seventeen times the death rate between the same two, you can't explain it by "older people getting one lot and not the other" and this is not a screaming indication that something that cannot be explained as random chance has occurred?


- https://archive.md/Fc8w5#selection-899.0-899.9

This post also claims to refute the theory that adverse events are for the most part a result of not aspirating the needle before injection, a previous theory I found the most convincing.

Basically the inference here is that scaling the production process to commercial levels has made the vaccine batches produced at mass scale much more dangerous than the small batches used in clinical trials. If this were true, getting vaccinated with a lot number from a batch that wasn't produced at commercial scale would be much safer. And the CEO of BioNTech did state in that interview they planned on making a seperate batch for themselves and their associates, which would be a limited amount of people, thus they wouldn't be using the commercially scaled production equipment.

The next step would be finding out which production facilities were used for the trial batches, and see if they are still being used. Or finding out the specifics of the different production facilities currently being used, to find out if any are much smaller than the rest. Then ultimately figure out where the smaller batches were being sent.

According to this article the clinical trial batches were produced at BioNTech facilities in Mainz and Idar-Oberstein in Germany.
- https://www.biopharma-reporter.com/Arti ... production
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:28 am

Here's the piece by Denninger mentioned by drstrangelove above, posted here back in early Nov; the link still seems to work:

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=244109

Belligerent Savant » Thu Nov 04, 2021 10:21 am wrote:.

Sharing this here as added consideration. Caps are at source, not added by me.

There is an article floating around from The Expose -- https://theexpose.uk/2021/10/31/100-per ... -produced/ -- that makes an explosive claim: There is a wildly statistically-significant skew in the death rate from Covid-19 vaccines by lot number.

What originally got my attention was the tinfoil hat crowd screaming about lots being intentionally distributed to certain people to kill them -- in other words certain Covid-19 vaccine lots were for all intents and purposes poisoned. That was wildly unlikely so I set out to disprove it and apply some broom handles to the tinfoil hatters heads. What I found, however, was both interesting and deeply disturbing.

Lots are quite large, especially when you're dealing with 200 million people and 400 million doses. Assuming the lots are not preferentially assigned to certain cohorts (e.g. one goes to all nursing homes, etc) adverse reactions should thus be evenly distributed between lots; if they're not one of these things is almost-certainly true:

There is a serious manufacturing quality problem or you produced something without understanding how it would work in the body and thus failed to control for something you had to in order to wind up with reproduceable results. That is, some lots are ok, others are contaminated, have too much or too little of the active ingredient in them, some produce wildly more spike-protein than others in the body when injected, etc.

OR

Much worse, the lots are intentionally segregated to produce different results. This implies some sort of nefarious intent such as killing people on a differential basis or that the manufacturers are running unsanctioned experiments on a mass basis among the population at-large, since they know what is in each lot and intentionally varied the contents.

OR

Perhaps worst of all, reports are now being intentionally suppressed, the injury and death rate hasn't changed and there are lots with one of the two above problems but it is being intentionally not reported, having been detected almost-instantly and health providers were directed to not report anything serious (e.g. death) associated with the jabs.
Now let's talk about VAERS. You can grab the public data from it, but VAERS intentionally makes it difficult to discern differences in lot outcomes. Why? Because they separate out the specifics of the vax (the manufacturer, lot number, etc.) into a different file. This means that simply loading it into Excel does you no good and attempting to correlate and match the two tables in Excel itself is problematic due to the extreme size of the files -- in fact, it blew Excel up here when I tried to do it. But that's an external data-export problem; internally, within HHS, it is certainly not hard for them to run correlations.

Indeed the entire point of VAERS is to find said correlations before people get screwed in size and stop it from happening.

Let's step back a bit in history. VAERS came into being because back in the 1970s the producers of the DTP shot had a quality control problem. Some lots had way too much active ingredient in them and others had nearly none. This caused a crap ton of bad reactions by kids who got the jabs and parents sued. Liability insurance threatened to become unobtanium (gee, you figure, after you screw a bunch of kids who had to take mandatory shots?) and thus the manufacturers pulled the DTP jab and threatened to pull all vaccines from the market.

Congress responded to this threat of intentional panic sown by the pharmaceutical industry by giving the vaccine firms immunity and setting up a tax and arbitration system, basically, to pay families if they got screwed by vaccines. Rather than force the guilty parties to eat the injuries and deaths they caused Congress instead exempted the manufacturers from the consequences of their own negligence and socialized the losses with a small tax on each shot.

Part of this was VAERS. We know VAERS understates adverse events because it while it is allegedly "mandatory" it is subject to clinical judgment and there is a wild bias against believing that these jabs, or any jab for that matter, has bad side effects. In addition there is neither a civil or criminal penalty of any kind for failure to report. We now know some people who have had bad side effects from the Covid-19 jabs have shown up on social media after going to the doctor and then tried to find their own record, which is quite easy to do if you know the lot number from your card, what happened and the date the event happened -- their doctor never filed it. This does not really surprise me since filing those reports takes quite a bit of time and the doctor isn't paid for it by the government or anyone else, so even without bias there will be those who simply won't do the work unless there are severe penalties for not doing so. There are in fact no penalties whatsoever. The under-reporting does not have a reliable boundary on it, but estimates are that only somewhere between 3% and 10% of actual adverse events get into the database. That's right -- at best the adverse event rate is ten times that of what you find in VAERS.

But now it gets interesting because VAERS exports, it appears, were also set up, whether deliberately or by coincidink, to make it hard for ordinary people to find a future correlation between injury or death and vaccine lot number.

NOTE THAT THIS EXACT CIRCUMSTANCE -- THAT MANUFACTURERS HAD QUALITY CONTROL PROBLEMS ORIGINALLY -- IS WHY VAERS EXISTS. YOU WOULD THINK THAT IF CONGRESS WAS ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN SOLVING THE PROBLEM THIS WOULD BE THE EASIEST SORT OF THING TO MONITOR AND WOULD BE REGULARLY REPORTED. YOU'D ALSO THINK THERE WERE STRONG CIVIL AND EVEN CRIMINAL PENALTIES FOR NOT REPORTING ADVERSE EVENTS.

You'd be wrong; the data is across two tables and uncorrelated as VAERS releases it and there is no quick-and-easy reporting on their site that groups events on a comparative basis by lot number. While it is possible to do this sort of analysis from their web page it's not easy.

(Further, and this also intentionally frustrates analysis, VAERS keeps no record nor reports on the number of shots administered per lot, making norming to some stable denominator literally impossible. If you think that's an accident I have a bridge for sale. It's a very nice bridge.)

But, grasshopper, I have Postgres. Indeed if you're reading this article it is because I both have it and know how to program against it; this blog is, in fact, stored in Postgres.

Postgres, like all databases, is very good at taking something that can be foreign-key related and correlating it. In fact that's one of a database's prime strengths. Isn't SQL, which I assume VAERS uses as well, wonderful?

So I did exactly that with the data found here for 2021.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/datasets.html

And..... you aren't going to like it.

Having loaded the base table and manufacturer tables related by the VAERS-ID I ran this query:

karl=> select vax_lot(vaers_vax), count(vax_lot(vaers_vax)) from vaers, vaers_vax where vaers_id(vaers) = vaers_id(vaers_vax) and died='Y' and vax_type='COVID19' and vax_manu(vaers_vax)='MODERNA' group by vax_lot(vaers_vax) order by count(vax_lot(vaers_vax)) desc;

This says:

Select the lot, and count the instances of that lot, from the VAERS data where the report ID is in the table of persons who had a bad reaction, said bad reaction was that they died, where the vaccine is a Covid-19 vaccine and where the manufacturer is MODERNA. Order the results by the count of the deaths per lot in descending order.

vax_lot | count
-----------------+-------
039K20A | 87
013L20A | 66
012L20A | 64
010M20A | 62
037K20A | 49
029L20A | 48
012M20A | 46
024M20A | 44
027L20A | 44
015M20A | 43
025L20A | 42
026A21A | 41
013M20A | 41
016M20A | 41
022M20A | 41
030L20A | 40
026L20A | 39
007M20A | 39
013A21A | 36
011A21A | 36
031M20A | 35
032L20A | 35
010A21A | 33
011J20A | 33
030A21A | 33
028L20A | 32
011L20A | 32
004M20A | 32
025J20-2A | 31 << -- What's this? (see below)
041L20A | 31
011M20A | 31
031L20A | 30
032H20A | 29
030M20A | 28
042L20A | 27
Unknown | 27
006M20A | 27
012A21A | 25
002A21A | 25
043L20A | 24
032M20A | 24
023M20A | 23
040A21A | 23
027A21A | 23
017B21A | 22
036A21A | 20
unknown | 19
020B21A | 19
047A21A | 19
006B21A | 18
044A21A | 17
038K20A | 17
048A21A | 15
003A21A | 15
014M20A | 15
031A21A | 15
031B21A | 15
021B21A | 15
025A21A | 14
007B21A | 14
003B21A | 14
001A21A | 13
038A21A | 13
025B21A | 13
001B21A | 12
046A21A | 12
027B21A | 11
045A21A | 11
038B21A | 11
025J20A | 11
002C21A | 11
016B21A | 11
036B21A | 11
039B21A | 10
002B21A | 10
018B21A | 10
019B21A | 10
008B21A | 10
029K20A | 10
029A21A | 10
028A21A | 9
047B21A | 9
001C21A | 9
044B21A | 8
045B21A | 8
009C21A | 8
048B21A | 8
026B21A | 8
UNKNOWN | 7
039A21A | 7
040B21A | 7
046B21A | 7
032B21A | 7
038C21A | 6
030m20a | 6
027C21A | 6
008C21A | 6
006C21A | 6
004C21A | 6
047C21A | 6
007C21A | 5
025C21A | 5
042B21A | 5
043B21A | 5
025J202A | 5 << -- Same as the above one?
052E21A | 5
003C21A | 5
030B21A | 5
030a21a | 5
016C21A | 5
017C21A | 5
N/A | 5
NO LOT # AVAILA | 5
037A21B | 5
037B21A | 5
024m20a | 4
031l20a | 4
003b21a | 4
026a21a | 4
041B21A | 4
005C21A | 4
033C21A | 4
035C21A | 4
021C21A | 4
040a21a | 4
041C21A | 4
006D21A | 4
022C21A | 4
037k20a | 4
048C21A | 4
03M20A | 3
008B212A | 3
039k20a | 3
024C21A | 3
016m20a | 3
038k20a | 3
025b21a | 3
033B21A | 3
026C21A | 3
Moderna | 3
033c21a | 3
014C21A | 3
.....

There are 547 unique lot entries that have one or more deaths associated with them. Some of the lot numbers are in the wrong format or missing, as you can also see. That's not unusual and in fact implicates the ordinary failure to get things right when people fill out the input. For example "Moderna" in the above results is clearly not a lot number. I've made no attempt to "sanitize" the data set in this regard and, quite-clearly, neither has VAERS even months after the fact with their "alleged" follow-up on reports.

But there is a wild over-representation in deaths of just a few lots; in fact fewer than 50 lots account for all lots where more than 20 associated deaths accumulated and out of the 547 unique entries fewer than 100 account for all those with more than 10 deaths.

Evenly distribution my ass.

How about Pfizer?

vax_lot | count
-----------------+-------
EN6201 | 117
EN5318 | 99
EN6200 | 97
EN6198 | 89
EL3248 | 86
EL9261 | 84
EM9810 | 82
EN6202 | 75
EL9269 | 75
EL3302 | 69
EL3249 | 67
EL8982 | 67
EN6208 | 59
EL9267 | 58
EL9264 | 57
EL0140 | 54
EN6199 | 54
EJ1686 | 51
EL9265 | 50
EL1283 | 48
ER2613 | 48
EN6204 | 47
EN6205 | 45
EK9231 | 43
EL3246 | 43
EN6207 | 41
EN6203 | 41
ER8732 | 40
EL1284 | 39
EL0142 | 38
EJ1685 | 38
ER8737 | 37
EN9581 | 36
EN6206 | 35
EP7533 | 35
EL9262 | 34
EL9266 | 33
EL3247 | 32
ER8727 | 28
EP6955 | 27
ER8730 | 26
EW0150 | 25
EK5730 | 24
EP7534 | 24
EM9809 | 22
EK4176 | 22
EH9899 | 21
EW0171 | 21
unknown | 20
ER8731 | 19
ER8735 | 18
EW0172 | 18
EL9263 | 17
EW0151 | 15
ER8733 | 15
EW0158 | 14
EW0164 | 14
EW0162 | 14
EW0169 | 14
ER8729 | 13
ER8734 | 13
Unknown | 13
EW0153 | 13
EW0167 | 12
EW0168 | 10
EW0161 | 10
EW0182 | 9
NO LOT # AVAILA | 8
EW0181 | 8
EW0186 | 8
ER8736 | 8
EW0191 | 8
FF2589 | 7
EW0173 | 6
EW0175 | 6
FA7485 | 6
EW0177 | 6
FD0809 | 6
301308A | 6
EW0170 | 6
FC3182 | 6
EW0217 | 6
EK41765 | 5
EW0196 | 5
EW0176 | 5
EW0183 | 4
EN 5318 | 4
el3249 | 4
EW0178 | 4
EW0179 | 4
EW0187 | 4
FA6780 | 4
FA7484 | 4
EN 6207 | 4

Pfizer has 395 unique lot numbers associated with at least one death and, again, there are a few that are obviously bogus. But again, evenly distribution my ass; there is a wild over-representation with one lot, EN6201, being associated with 117 deaths and fewer than 20 are associated with more than 50.

For grins and giggles let's look at the age distribution for 039K20A -- the worst Moderna lot.

karl=> select avg(age_yrs) from vaers, vaers_vax where vaers_id(vaers) = vaers_id(vaers_vax) and vax_type='COVID19' and vax_manu(vaers_vax)='MODERNA' and vax_lot(vaers_vax)='039K20A' and age_yrs is not null;
avg
---------------------
51.4922202119410700
(1 row)

Ok, so the average age of people who got that shot, had a bad reaction (and had a valid age in the table) is 51.

How about for 030A21A which had 33 deaths?

karl=> select avg(age_yrs) from vaers, vaers_vax where vaers_id(vaers) = vaers_id(vaers_vax) and vax_type='COVID19' and vax_manu(vaers_vax)='MODERNA' and vax_lot(vaers_vax)='030A21A' and age_yrs is not null;

avg
---------------------
61.1097014925373134
(1 row)

Well there goes the argument that we jabbed all the old people in nursing homes with the really nasty outcome lot and they died but it not caused by the jab and the second lot, which had a much lower rate, all went into younger people's arms and that's why they didn't die. Uh, no, actually when it comes to the age of the people who got jabbed in these two instances its the other way around; the second lot, which was less deadly, had bad reactions in older people on average yet fewer died -- and significantly so too (by 10 years.)

What's worse is that the "hot" lots for deaths also are "hot" for total adverse events. If the deaths were not related to general pathology from a given lot there would be no correlation -- but there is. Oops.

In addition there is no solid correlation between the "bad" lots and first report of trouble. The absolute worst of Moderna had a bad report in the first days of January. But -- another lot of their vaccine with only 172 reports against it (1/20th the rate of the worst for total adverse events) had its first adverse event report on January 6th.

What is evenly-distributed with a reasonable bump for the original huge uptake rate? When people died.

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What the actual **** is going on here? You're going to try to tell me that the CDC, NIH and FDA don't know about this? I can suck this data into a database, run 30 seconds of queries against it and instantly identify a wildly-elevated death and hazard rate associated with certain lot numbers when the distribution of those associations should be reasonably-even, or at least something close to it, across all the lots produced and used? Then I look to try to find the obvious potential "clean" explanation (the higher death rate lot could have gone into older people) and it's simply not there when one looks at all adverse event reports. I have Moderna lots with the same average age of persons who died but ten times times the number of associated deaths.

Then I look at reported date of death and.... its reasonably close to an even distribution. So no, it wasn't all those old people getting killed at once in the first month. So much for that attempted explanation.

Oh if you're interested the nastiest lot was literally everywhere in terms of states reporting adverse events against it; no, they didn't concentrate them in one state or region either.

The outcome distribution isn't "sort of close" when most of the lots have a single-digit number of associated deaths.

Isn't it also interesting that when one removes the "dead" flag the same sort of correlation shows up? That is, there are plenty of lots with nearly nothing reported against them. For Moderna within the first page of results (~85 lots) there is more than a three times difference in total adverse events. The worst lot, 039K20A with 87 deaths, is not only worst for deaths; it also has more than 4,000 total adverse event reports against it. For context if you drill down a couple hundred entries in that report the number of total adverse events against another lot, 025C21A number 417 with five deaths.

Are you really going to try to tell me that a mass-produced and distributed jab has a roughly ten times adverse event rate between two lots and seventeen times the death rate between the same two, you can't explain it by "older people getting one lot and not the other" and this is not a screaming indication that something that cannot be explained as random chance has occurred?

Here, in pictures, since some of you need to be hit upside the head with a ****ing railroad tie before you wake up:

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That's Pfizer deaths by lot, worst-to-best. Look normal to you? Remember, zero deaths in a given lot doesn't come up since it's not in the system.

How about adverse events of all sorts?

Image

(Yes, there are invalid lot numbers, particularly in the second graph, with lots of "1s". The left side however is what it is.)

There's a much-larger problem. Have a look at Moderna's chart of the same thing. First, deaths:

Image

And AE's..

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These are different companies!

Want even worse news?

JANSSEN, which is an entirely different technology, has the same curve.

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and

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What do we have here folks?

Is there something inherent in the production of the "instructions", however they're delivered, that results in a non-deterministic outcome within a batch of jabs which was not controlled for, perhaps because it isn't understood SINCE WE HAVE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE IN MAN OR BEAST and if it goes wrong you're ****ed?

This is a power-law (exponential) distribution; it is not a step-function nor normally or evenly distributed. Those don't happen with allegedly consistent manufacturing processes and the potential confounding factor that could be an innocent explanation (all the bad ones were early and killed all the old people early who died of "something" but it wasn't the vaccines since they all got the jab first) has been invalidated because the dates of death are in fact reasonably distributed.

Have doctors been told to stop reporting? Note that HHS can issue such an order under the PREP Act and there is no judicial review if they do that. Did they?

This demands an explanation. Three different firms all using spike proteins, two using a different technology than the third, all three causing the body to produce the spike rather than deliver it directly and all three of them have a wild skew of some lots that hose people left and right while the others, statistically, do not screw people.

This data also eliminates the hypothesis put forward that lack of aspiration technique is responsible -- that is, that occasional accidental penetration of a vein results in systemic distribution. That would not be lot-specific.

Next question, which VAERS cannot answer: Is there an effectiveness difference between the lots that screw people and those that do not?

Are we done being stupid yet? Statistically all of the adverse events of any sort are in a handful of lots irrespective of the brand. The rest generate a few bad outcomes while a very, very small number of lots generate a huge percentage of the harm. And no, that's not tied to age bracketing (therefore who got it first either); some of the worst have average age distributions that are less than lots with lower adverse event rates. It is also not tied to when used either since one of the "better" lots has a first-AE report right at the start of January -- as do the "bad" lots.

The only thing all three of these vaccines have in common is that all three of them rely on the human body to produce the spike protein that is then attacked by the immune system and produces antibodies; none of them directly introduce the offending substance into the body. The mechanism of induction is different between the J&J and Pfizer/Moderna formulations but all exhibit the same problem. The differential shown in the data is wildly beyond reasonable explanation related to the cohort dosed and the reported person's average age for the full set of events (not just deaths) does not correlate with elevated risk in a given lot either so it is clearly not related to the age of the person jabbed (e.g. "certain lots all went to nursing homes since they were first.") While the highest AE rate lots all have early use dates so do some of the low-AE rate lots so the attempt to explain the data away as "but the highest risk got it first" fails as well.

In other words the best-fit hypothesis is that causing the body to produce part of a pathogen when that part has pathological capacity (as we know is the case for the spike) cannot be controlled adequately through commercial manufacturing process at-scale. This means that no vector-based, irrespective of how (e.g. viral vector or mRNA), not-directly-infused coronavirus jab will ever have an acceptable safety profile because some lots will be "hot" and harm crazy percentages of those they're given to with no way to know in advance. The basic premise used here -- to have the body produce the agent the immune system identifies rather than directly introduce it where you can control the quantity, is a failure.

The entire premise of calling something that does this a "vaccine" is bogus and in the context of a coronavirus this may never be able to be done safely.

Something is very wrong here folks and the people running VAERS either aren't looking on purpose, know damn well its happening and are saying nothing about it on purpose -- never mind segregating the data in such a fashion that casual perusal of their downloads won't find it -- or saw it immediately and suppressed reporting on purpose.

If these firms were not immune from civil and even criminal prosecution as a result of what Biden and Trump did the plaintiff's bar would have been crawling up *******s months ago.

This ought to be rammed up every politician's ass along with every single person at the CDC, NIH and FDA. They know this is going on; it took me minutes to analyze and find this.

What the HELL is going on here?

THESE SHOTS MUST BE WITHDRAWN NOW until what has happened is fully explained and, if applicable, accountability is obtained for those injured or killed as a result. If embargoing of reports is proved, and its entirely possible that is the case, everyone involved must go to prison now and the entire program must be permanently scrapped.

THERE IS NO REASONABLE EXPLANATION FOR THIS DATA THAT REDUCES TO RANDOM CHANCE.



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My suspicion is that since ZERO of these jabs actually contain spike, but all cause the body to make it, there is an uncontrolled element in the production of the lot that causes some of them to do so on a wildly more-prolific basis.

Thus if you draw the short straw on the lot you get you're ****ed but there is no way to know in advance because by the time the reports show up the lot has been expended.
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Postby Harvey » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:13 pm

All the usual caveats apply until confirmed...

The video at the link (immediately below) was posted to the internet just over a week ago showing German chemist Dr Andreas Noack explaining the presence of graphene hydroxide in Pfizer vaccines. He describes the chemical as 'graphene razor blades', massive molecules which are nevertheless only atoms thick, very strong, non degradable and very sharp. Literally shredding subjects from the inside.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3qRyTCSeeAac/

In the last few days, the home where Noack lived with his pregnant wife was subjected to an unannounced invasion by German police. Dr Noack was apparently killed by police during the raid. (Note: the video below is probably from a prior raid on his home, but look at the level of rage exhibited by armed officers.)

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Postby DrEvil » Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:52 pm

Belligerent Savant » Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:39 am wrote:
DrEvil » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:52 pm wrote:As for vaccines in Norway, here's some numbers released by the Institute of Public Health a couple of weeks ago:

People admitted to hospital with Covid-19 as their main diagnosis:

Unvaccinated: 12 out of every 100000 people
Median age: 47

Vaccinated: 1,5 out of every 100000 people
Median age: 78


How does Norway define 'unvaccinated'?

(Also: how is covid diagnosed at admission? By the expression of symptoms, or symptoms + PCR test result?)

In the U.S. (and other regions, i believe), per the CDC anyone that has not yet surpassed 14 days after their 2nd covid shot is considered 'unvaccinated'. This may have been recently revised further since the promotion of boosters; i'll need to circle back on this (by this i mean: "vaccinated" may now be defined by having at least 3 covid shots -- again, this needs to be confirmed).

Most vaccine adverse events occur within the first few days of receiving a shot, and 'breakthrough' infections can also occur inside this time window (the time from a first shot to 14 days after the 2nd shot). Either of these scenarios, given this criteria, would be tied to the 'unvaccinated', even if it occurs among those that received at least 1 covid shot.

This -- among other tricks of the statistics trade -- is only one of numerous ways covid figures related to cases, hospitalizations and deaths have been misleading/manipulated.


All that aside, those figures you cite, even if taken fully at face value, absolutely do NOT merit re-introducing restrictions of any sort, wouldn't you agree?


Not sure. I got those numbers from a graphic they circulated, so I don't know how they arrived at the exact numbers or what they counted as unvaccinated (detailed weekly reports in english are available here: https://www.fhi.no/en/publ/2020/weekly- ... -covid-19/ ). The definitions they operate with are:

Partially vaccinated:
- 3 weeks after the first dose, and until one week after the second dose.

Fully vaccinated:
- 1 week after the second dose.
- 3 weeks after getting a single dose vaccine.
- 1 dose and confirmed covid illness at least three weeks later. Counts as fully vaccinated ten days after positive test.
- Confirmed covid illness, and at least three weeks later got one dose.
- Confirmed lab test showing SARS-Cov-2 antibodies, and one dose at the test date or later counts as fully vaccinated one week after the dose.

Fully protected:
- Fully vaccinated according to the above definitions.
- Covid-19 during the last twelve months.
- Covid-19 more than twelve months ago, plus one dose.

Apart from international travel we only have recommendations nationally. Vaccines are still not mandatory, and the prime minister (both the current Labor and former Conservative one) and the Institute of Public Health have repeatedly said they shouldn't be, including for healthcare workers. Not saying that will never change, but so far they have been very emphatic on that point.

Further restrictions can be imposed in the future, and individual municipalities can impose local restrictions if they have a high case load, but the stated goal is to minimize the impact on the public, especially children, and avoid further lockdowns.

As an example, here are the current rules and recommendations for Bergen (for some reason the english version is missing a couple of things: private gatherings in rented/borrowed locations have a max limit of 100 people, public gatherings with no fixed seating (concerts, sports, religious services, etc.) have a limit of 600 people divided into groups of 200) :
https://www.bergen.kommune.no/hvaskjer/ ... for-bergen
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Postby Harvey » Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:23 pm

Harvey » Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:13 pm wrote:All the usual caveats apply until confirmed...

The video at the link (immediately below) was posted to the internet just over a week ago showing German chemist Dr Andreas Noack explaining the presence of graphene hydroxide in Pfizer vaccines. He describes the chemical as 'graphene razor blades', massive molecules which are nevertheless only atoms thick, very strong, non degradable and very sharp. Literally shredding subjects from the inside.


^ It looks like most people conflated the police raid (last year) with reports of his sudden death. The official cause of death is thought to be a heart attack. His girlfriend (not wife) believes his sudden death is suspicious.

https://bluecat.media/dr-andreas-noack- ... e-failure/

The work referred to by Noack in his recent videos, certainly the one above, can be viewed here: https://www.notonthebeeb.co.uk/post/bre ... in-vaccine

There's a link at the source to a PDF of the full paper by Dr Pablo Campra of Almeria University showing the presence of graphene oxides present in a random sampling from four different brands of Covid vaccine (graphene is present in samples from all four) and how this identification was achieved by his team.

I think Dr Noak who had recently read the paper may have been the first to recognise the signature of graphene hydroxide specifically.


https://www.notonthebeeb.co.uk/post/breaking-dr-campra-proves-graphene-in-vaccine

Dr Campra's summary, in his words.

We present here our research on the presence of graphene in covid vaccines. We have carried out a random screening of graphene-like nanoparticles visible at the optical microscopy in seven random samples of vials from four different trademarks, coupling images with their spectral signatures of RAMAN vibration.

By this technique, called micro-RAMAN, we have been able to determine the presence of graphene in these samples, after screening more than 110 objects selected for their graphene-like appearance under optical microscopy. Out of them, a group of 28 objects have been selected, due to the compatibility of both images and spectra with the presence of graphene derivatives, based on the correspondence of these signals with those obtained from standards and scientific literature. The identification of graphene oxide structures can be regarded as conclusive in 8 of them, due to the high spectral correlation with the standard. In the remaining 20 objects, images coupled with Raman signals show a very high level of compatibility with undetermined graphene structures, however different than the standard used here.

This research remains open and is made available to scientific community for discussion. We make a call for independent researchers, with no conflict of interest or coaction from any institution to make wider counter-analysis of these products to achieve a more detailed knowledge of the composition and potential health risk of these experimental drugs, reminding that graphene materials have a potential toxicity on human beings and its presence has not been declared in any emergency use authorization.
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Where's this from Stick? Is there more? Asking in case it's removed.
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