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Postby norton ash » Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:34 pm

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:56 am

The cavalry have arrived, the Classy Crew,, the Carers:

maple syrup » Wed Dec 08, 2021 4:07 pm wrote:
MacCruiskeen » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:33 pm wrote:[...]
How many more people will COUPVID destroy worldwide -- physically, mentally, morally, financially? It is a war of attrition.


Cases world wide represent 3.5% of the population. Deaths world wide are 0.06% of the total population. If you are being generous. What percentage are really because of co-morbidity? If science was barely keeping you alive to begin with, how can it cope with multiple conditions? There is a whole other thread in the morass human finds itself in relation to what is realistic when dealing with the meat sack.

If those who are in control of the construct are trying to kill off human, this round is woefully ineffective. Round two however could prove to be your real performance, this being but a dress rehearsal.

The response to this virus was meant to be a data collection endeavour. Role out responses, see the reactions. Masks, social distancing, vaccination, were never meant to actually control the route this virus took. It was all about seeing what route would be taken given X% of the population complying with what is recommended. Round two will have the full on eats through enough to produce a distopia with the puppeteers pre-dosed with an antidote that does not break the blood brain barrier. Then you will have your war of attrition.

Question remaining: do you want to be around to see the other side?


Sic. Seriously. (Emphases added.)

O what a piece of work is AI. #Follow TheScience, meatsacks. Swallow the syrup. What could possibly go wrong?.

Maple Syrup is a viscous sugary sap emitted by certain plants now widely cultivated in North America and beyond.
An essential element in any healthy humanoid diet, this fragrant, yellowish, semi-transparent secretion can also be employed to trap flies, gnats, unwary infants, and other notorious disease-vectors. It is chemically akin to certain snake venoms.
https//www.com/NutritionCentral/Brainfoods/MapleSyrup
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As the famous latinx poet Hippocrates taught us, way back in the olden days: nomen est omen. ("Never give a sucker an even break".)

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Round two will have the full on eats through enough to produce a distopia, scientists say.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:09 am

From Scientic American, four-and-a-half years ago. (The article's short, informative, and well worth reading in full.)

Public Health: Nearly 1 In 3 Recent FDA Drug Approvals Followed by Major Safety Actions

The withdrawal of these drugs poses concerns about a push for less regulation

By Sydney Lupkin, Kaiser Health News on May 9, 2017

... "Given criticism of the FDA’s mostly voluntary system for reporting new drug- and device-related health problems, it’s possible there are more unknown adverse side effects of which neither the FDA nor the general public is aware. The reports are not verified, and critics say this system is underutilized and filled with incomplete and late information." ...
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... -actions/#

2017. Mistakes were made. Lessons were learned. Move on.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:58 am

So after looking into the situation with Pfizer vaccine batches:

It would seem reasonable to believe Pfizer and its corporate associates may be selectively reducing the associated risk of mRNA gene therapy vaccination for their employees and their employees families by providing them, through an employee vaccination program, with vaccine batches produced using a separate manufacturing process to the commercial scale one used to supply general populations.

Evidence for this is as follows:

It is known that the mRNA gene therapy vaccine solution can be produced using two substantively different processes, a clinical process and a commercial process.
It is known that the European Medicines Agency(EMA) expressed concerns with Pfizer over discrepancies between the clinical and commercial batches, pertinent to the safety and efficacy of the mRNA gene therapy vaccine solutions produced, and that commercial batches have a higher potential for risk than clinical batches.
It is known that Pfizer and Pfizer corporate associates vaccinate their employees and their employee's families with batches distinct and separate from the commercial ones given to general populations.
It is reasonable to believe that the data provided by the United States post market surveillance system, VAERS, suggests a profoundly uneven distribution of reported incidents of adverse events(AE) and death across batches of the mRNA gene therapy vaccine solution, indicating some batches are significantly more risky than others.
It is known, that at least in Australia, Pfizer employee batches are not tested by the country's regulatory agency which tests all commercial batches, and those batches marked for allocation to Pfizer employees have undergone odd modifications as to their regulatory status within the batch registry database.
1. Commercial and Clinical Batch Processes
There are two substantively different production processes used in the manufacture of the Pfizer-BioNTech Gene Therapy Vaccine solution.

The clinical batch process was used to produce the solution administered in the clinical trials, data from which formed the safety and efficacy profile used to authorise use of another commercial batch process for mass production of the solution given to the general public.

Concerns arising from were one of the “Major Objections” intially raised with Pfizer by the European Medicines Agency during the authorisation process, as outlined in their assessment report for the product:

Manufacturing process development
Process development changes were adequately summarised. Two active substance processes have been used during the development history; Process 1 (clinical trial material) and Process 2 (commercial process). Details about process differences, justification for making changes, and results from a comparability study are provided. The major changes between active substance process versions were described in the dossier.
Batch analysis results showing comparability between non-clinical and clinical batches are provided. Additional characterization of product-related species and their relation to final product specifications will be provided as a specific obligation.
Electropherograms were presented demonstrating similarities in the peak pattern of RNA species, but some differences between Process 1 and 2 were also noted. It can therefore not be concluded that identical species are obtained by the processes. It is likely that the fragmented species will not result in expressed proteins, due to their expected poor stability and poor translational efficiency (see below). However, the lack of experimental data on the truncated RNA and expressed proteins does not permit a definitive conclusion and needs further characterisation. Therefore, additional characterisation data remain to be provided as a specific obligation (SO1).

– Comirnaty(Pfizer BioNTech) COVID-19 mRNA vaccine Assessment Report, page 18


Efficacy, safety and immunogenicity was demonstrated using clinical batches of vaccine from Process 1. The commercial batches are produced using a different process (Process 2), and the comparability of these processes relies on demonstration of comparable biological, chemical and physical characteristics of the active substance and finished product.

– Comirnaty(Pfizer BioNTech) COVID-19 mRNA vaccine Assessment Report, page 34


Data demonstrate the presence of significant amounts of truncated/modified forms of mRNA at somewhat higher levels in the batches manufactured with the commercial process as compared to material used in clinical trials. These forms are poorly characterised, and the limited data provided for protein expression do not fully address the uncertainties relating to the risk of translating proteins/peptides other than the intended spike protein.

– Comirnaty(Pfizer BioNTech) COVID-19 mRNA vaccine Assessment Report, page 35


2. Discrepancies between Commercial and Clinical Batches
These concerns raised with the divergent production processes were further amplified in a subsequent leak of internal EMA documentation and emails to academic journals as a result of a cyber attack launched against the agency during December 2020.

The BMJ has reviewed the documents, which show that regulators had major concerns over unexpectedly low quantities of intact mRNA in batches of the vaccine developed for commercial production.
EMA scientists tasked with ensuring manufacturing quality—the chemistry, manufacturing, and control aspects of Pfizer’s submission to the EMA—worried about “truncated and modified mRNA species present in the finished product.” Among the many files leaked to The BMJ, an email dated 23 November by a high ranking EMA official outlined a raft of issues. In short, commercial manufacturing was not producing vaccines to the specifications expected, and regulators were unsure of the implications. EMA responded by filing two “major objections” with Pfizer, along with a host of other questions it wanted addressed.
The email identified “a significant difference in % RNA integrity/truncated species” between the clinical batches and proposed commercial batches—from around 78% to 55%. The root cause was unknown and the impact of this loss of RNA integrity on safety and efficacy of the vaccine was “yet to be defined,” the email said.
Ultimately, on 21 December, EMA authorised Pfizer-BioNTech’s vaccine. The agency’s public assessment report, a technical document published on its website, noted, “the quality of this medicinal product, submitted in the emergency context of the current (covid-19) pandemic, is considered to be sufficiently consistent and acceptable.”
It’s unclear how the agency’s concerns were satisfied. According to one of the leaked emails dated 25 November, positive news had come from an undisclosed source in the US: “The latest lots indicate that % intact RNA are back at around 70-75%, which leaves us cautiously optimistic that additional data could address the issue,” the email said.”

– 'The EMA covid-19 data leak, and what it tells us about mRNA instability', Serena Tinari, British Medical Journal., archive link


3. BioNTech Employee Vaccination Program Does Not Use Commercially Produced Batches
In a December 23rd interview, BioNTech CEO Ugur Sahin states neither himself nor his employees had yet been vaccinated, but they planned to “make an extra batch independent from the European contingent” available to themselves and corporate partners. The direct quote can be found in the below video.



The employee specific program he proposed was then instituted in January with further details of it announced in a company press release:

The additional small quantities of vaccine used for this purpose are separate and distinct from those committed under the supply agreements entered in to with the European Commission and other governments, and will not impact BioNTech’s ability to meet its commitments under these supply agreements.

– Statement on Voluntary COVID-19 Vaccination for BioNTech Employees and Suppliers to Ensure Undisrupted Manufacturing and Distribution of COVID-19 Vaccine Doses, archive link

So the BioNTech employee and associate mRNA gene therapy vaccine solution was produced in small quantity batches "separate and distinct" from those "committed under the supply agreements" as to not "impact BioNTech’s ability to meet its commitments under these supply agreements". In other words, BioNTech did not use the commercial batch manufacturing process for itself and instead used the clinical batch manufacturing process. And it did this ostencibly to meet its commercial supply commitments.

4. Uneven Distribution of Reported AE and Death Across Batches of mRNA Gene Therapy Vaccine Solution
Data analysis using the VAERS database, the authoritative system used in the United States to report vaccine induced adverse events and deaths through post-market surveillance, would appear to show an uneven distribution of both reported deaths and AE across vaccine batch numbers for both the Moderna and Pfizer mRNA gene therapy vaccines. I have not verified the following analysis, but they are done using publicly avaliable data.

100% of Covid-19 Vaccine Deaths were caused by just 5% of the batches produced according to official Government data, archive link

100% of Covid-19 Vaccine Permanent Disabilities and Deaths among Children were caused by just 6% of the batches produced according to official Government data, archive link

A third source set out to fact-check the analysis done in the dailyexpose article, and ended up corroborating its findings.

“There is an article floating around from The Expose that makes an explosive claim: There is a wildly statistically-significant skew in the death rate from Covid-19 vaccines by lot number.
What originally got my attention was the tinfoil hat crowd screaming about lots being intentionally distributed to certain people to kill them -- in other words certain Covid-19 vaccine lots were for all intents and purposes poisoned. That was wildly unlikely so I set out to disprove it and apply some broom handles to the tinfoil hatters heads. What I found, however, was both interesting and deeply disturbing.

. . .

The outcome distribution isn't "sort of close" when most of the lots have a single-digit number of associated deaths.
Isn't it also interesting that when one removes the "dead" flag the same sort of correlation shows up? That is, there are plenty of lots with nearly nothing reported against them. For Moderna within the first page of results (~85 lots) there is more than a three times difference in total adverse events. The worst lot, 039K20A with 87 deaths, is not only worst for deaths; it also has more than 4,000 total adverse event reports against it. For context if you drill down a couple hundred entries in that report the number of total adverse events against another lot, 025C21A number 417 with five deaths.
Are you really going to try to tell me that a mass-produced and distributed jab has a roughly ten times adverse event rate between two lots and seventeen times the death rate between the same two, you can't explain it by "older people getting one lot and not the other" and this is not a screaming indication that something that cannot be explained as random chance has occurred?”

– 'Uh, That's Not A Conspiracy Theory, Karl Denninger, The Market Ticker, archive link


5. Irregularities in the Australian Batch Registry for Vaccine Batches Allocated to The Pfizer Employee Vaccination Program
In Australia Pfizer(and assumably their associates) employees and their families have been allocated batches of their mRNA gene therapy solution exclusive from commercial batches administered to the general population. Both the commercial batches and the Pfizer employee batches are distinctly identified in the batch registry kept by the Therapeutic Goods Administration(TGA), which is the Australian equivalent of the American FDA or European Union EMA.

Out of a total of 62 Pfizer batches registered in Australia at present, 8 of them are allocated for the Pfizer employee vaccination program. These eight are:

FF0884* 12/8/2021
FA4598* 30/7/2021
FE3064* 25/6/2021
FA7338* 22/6/2021
FA7812* 22/6/2021
FC8736* 22/6/2021
FC3558* 21/6/2021
FD0927* 7/6/2021
According to their website, Pfizer Australia has 1,700 employees. Even accounting for family and corporate partners, it remains a little odd that 15% of all Pfizer batches registered in Australia would be allocated for use in the Pfizer Employee Program. Though it turns out they were, only some of the time.

These eight batches, unlike the other 54 commercial batches, are not tested by the TGA as are all commercial batches, as they instead recognise the testing certification done by the European Union's Official Control Authority Batch Release(OCABR).

Pathway one uses overseas certification as evidence that the batch has already undergone independent testing and assessment by a recognised National Control Laboratory, such as the in Europe.
The OCABR process involves assessment of manufacturing documentation (summary protocol review) and laboratory testing for potency, identity and appearance based on guidelines for specific COVID-19 vaccine types (e.g. RNA, viral vector, and inactivated vaccines).
When the Sponsor provides evidence that the batch supplied in Australia has passed OCABR testing, the vaccine can be released without the TGA conducting a manufacturing protocol assessment or (potentially) laboratory testing.
The Sponsor must still supply samples, batch details and evidence of the maintenance of adequate shipping conditions for the batch under this pathway.
OCABR certificates are unlikely to be available for all COVID-19 vaccine batches as their availability depends on many factors, including the final global distribution of a batch.

– TGA - Batch release assessment of COVID-19 vaccines

The status of these eight batches, as reflected in the TGA batch registry system, have undergone some irregularities throughout the course of 2021. The discovery of these irregularities were made by someone conducting an independent audit of vaccine supply to the Australian government. This audit can be found here, though it isn't pertinent to the issue at hand:

Covid Supply Background Notes Covid-19 Supply Audit
As of August 10th 2021, the TGA batch registry had five batches allocated to the Pfizer employee vaccination program.


August 10th Archive Snapshot


Take note of three things:

All five entries are distinctly marked as “limited batch quantity allocated for use in Pfizer Australia employee vaccination program.”
Batch FA4598 has an associated date of 22/6/2021
The fifth batch at the bottom has no batch number entered, due to what would appear to be erroneous data entry.
Then on August 11th 2021, the batch registry is updated, adding a second entry for batch FA4598, but with an associated date of 30/7/2021 and status of 'Not tested, additional shipment'.


August 11th Archive Snapshot


So now there are two entries in the registry for batch FA4598, one allocated to the Pfizer employee vaccination program and the other unallocated and untested. However, this duplicate batch entry shares the same OCABR certificate. Meaning that even though it is marked as untested by the TGA, it doesn't need to be tested to be allocated, and now be done so outside of the Pfizer employee vaccination program.

Then on the 19th of August the batch registry is updated once again and three key changes are made:

The data entry error of the fifth batch has now been resolved and given the batch number FC3558
The status of the five batches have now been changed from 'limited batch quantity allocated for use in Pfizer Australia employee vaccination program.' to 'Not tested, additional shipment'
But there aren't five batches anymore, as batch FA4598 with the associated date of 22/6/2021 is now missing, leaving only its duplicate with the associated date 30/7/2021.

August 20th Archive Snapshot


So now all Pfizer vaccination program batches can be allocated outside of the program, and have OCABR certificates so they don't need to be tested by TGA. And this remains the case until September 21st, when the following changes are made:

The four batches from the Pfizer employee program which had their status changed to 'Not tested, additional shipment' on August 19th have had it changed back to 'Limited batch quantity allocated for use in Pfizer Australia employee vaccination program'

September 22nd Archive Snapshot


The duplicate batch FA4598 with an associated date of 30/7/2021 created on August 11th has had its status now changed from 'Not tested, additional shipment' to 'Limited batch quantity allocated for use in Pfizer Australia employee vaccination program'

September 22nd Archive Snapshot


The evolution of entries of batch FA4598 alone is as follows:

Up until August 11th:
Batch FA4598 - 22 June 2021, Marked for Pfizer Employees.


From August 11th-19th:
Batch FA4598 - 22 June 2021, Marked for Pfizer Employees.
Batch FA4598 - 30 June 2021, Untested additional shipment.


From August 19th - September 21st:
Batch FA4598 - 30 June 2021, Untested additional shipment.


From September 19th - December 9th(Present):
Batch FA4598 - 30 June 2021, Marked for Pfizer Employees.

What can be made of this?
Well in summary, it has been demonstrated to be known that the mRNA gene therapy vaccine solution can be produced using two substantively different processes, a clinical process and a commercial process. It has been demonstrated to be known that commercial batches have a higher potential for risk than clinical batches. It has been demonstrated to be known that the EMA expressed concerns with Pfizer over discrepancies between the clinical and commercial batches, pertinent to the safety and efficacy of the mRNA gene therapy vaccine solution produced. It is has been demonstrated to be known that Pfizer and Pfizer corporate associates vaccinate their employees and their employees families with batches that are separate from commercial batches given to the general population. It is reasonable to believe that data provided by Untied States post market surveillance system, VAERS, may indicate an extremely uneven distribution of reported incidents of AE and death across batches of the mRNA gene therapy vaccine solution, indicating some batches are significantly more risky than others. It has been demonstrated to be known, that at least in Australia, Pfizer employee batches are not tested by the National regulatory agency which tests all commercial batches, and that batches marked for Pfizer employees in Australia underwent odd modifications as to their regulatory status and use within the country.

Based on the totality of evidence, it is reasonable to believe that specific batches of the mRNA gene therapy vaccine solution produced using commercial batch process 2 may lead to substantially higher reports of adverse events and death than batches of the mRNA gene therapy vaccine substance produced using clinical batch process 1. If this is reasonable to believe, then it would reasonably follow those aware of the increased risk of commercial batches, would seek to reduce this risk through administering a mRNA gene therapy vaccine solution from a clinical batch to themselves and families.

Whether or not this is true, I do not know.


For media evidence - https://thehotstar.net/separatebatches.html
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby maple syrup » Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:28 am

"Maple Syrup is a viscous sugary sap emitted by certain plants now widely cultivated in North America and beyond."

Maple Syrup is the result of boiling down the sap of two specific varieties of Maple Tree, not certain plants. The sap is not viscous at all as it barely contains 3% sugar content if you are lucky. The end product, is to be as close to 67% sugar as possible. If you go over, the solution tends to cystalize with storage. To my knowledge, no one cultivates Maple trees, as they need to be about 40 years old or so to have enough girth to tap and collect sap. My trees are well over 150. I tap Acer Saccarum. Some utlise the Red Maple, but that variety never gives up as high a sugar content each year, so you have to boil more. Or use RO. I do not. Nor do I use vaccuum to enhance collection; which too many do.

I suppose, when everything looks like a nail, you become a hammer. I will graciously take your pounding as long as you are stihl determined to misinterpret my particular manner of syntax, vocabulary and compositional style. You have yet to be correct about anything you have supposed about me...
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:31 pm

So now trees are not plants? OK.

#2021 #FollowTheBiology #TreesAreTallHorses
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:36 pm

Jeff Wells@JeffWellsRigInt 17 hrs ago
If they wanted an off-ramp, Omicron was it and they didn't take it, so you'd better believe the worst.

Exactly.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:47 pm

norton ash » Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:34 am wrote:Cut it out you mugs, save it for the Germans.


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Postby Harvey » Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:10 pm

"We are no longer governed by our own governments." Ernst Wolff in interview. It is about Covid, even though it's largely about economics.

https://odysee.com/@jermwarfare:2/ernst-wolff:f4

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Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:58 pm

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https://paulkingsnorth.substack.com/p/t ... t-part-two

The Vaccine Moment, part two

On Symbol and Story

Tolstoy once claimed that there were only two stories in the world: ‘a stranger arrives in town’, and ‘someone leaves on a journey.’ A novelist, he thought, ought to be able to do almost anything with these at his disposal. A few years back, on a writing course I was teaching, a student of mine pointed out that these could both be the same story told from different perspectives. I hadn’t thought of that, but I’ve thought of it often since.

Tolstoy’s was a life of seeking; a life of burning and journeying, of falling down and rising again and walking on towards truth. At each stage of the journey he picked up the stories he was telling and turned them around so that the light fell on them in new ways; examined them to see if they were true or not. Call things by their name, he advised himself in his diary in 1851. The advice holds.

Humans are storytellers; this might be the characteristic that distinguishes us most starkly from even our closest animal relatives. All day every day, we use narratives to try and make sense of the ongoing confusion of reality; of the business of being human. When Dougald Hine and I wrote the Dark Mountain Manifesto a dozen a years ago, it was stories we focused on. The claim we made then, which has been borne out since, is that our culture was telling the wrong story about the world, and it was leading us to the edge of a cliff:

This story has many variants, religious and secular, scientific, economic and mystic. But all tell of humanity's original transcendence of its animal beginnings, our growing mastery over a 'nature' to which we no longer belong, and the glorious future of plenty and prosperity which will follow when this mastery is complete. It is the story of human centrality, of a species destined to be lord of all it surveys, unconfined by the limits that apply to other, lesser creatures.

What makes this story so dangerous is that, for the most part, we have forgotten that it is a story.

Human history could be seen as a never-ending series of battles over stories, with the winners determining who shapes society, at least for a while. The ongoing ‘culture war’ in many Western nations is a classic example of this narrative struggle at work. Who gets to write the history of America, or Britain? Who decides if a statue stays up, or what it means? The battles around these stories are so ferocious precisely because they are seen by many people as existential. That statue, that history book, that museum display - for many people these are not just static objects or irrelevant bits of the cultural furniture: they are symbols, the battle over which will determine who ‘we’ are, and what we teach our children.

Stories change their shape radically depending on the perspective they are told from. The Odyssey is a different story when Penelope tells it. New stories can replace old ones, and topple cultures in the process. Much of what I have been writing here since the spring has been about precisely this mechanism. What is going on in the post-post-modern West is that we are at the end of a story, and we are fighting violently over whether we can restore it - or if not, which story, or stories, will takes its place.

The historian Christopher Dawson described our region of the world, which has been so dominant for the last few centuries and is now fading in power and influence, as a Christian society overlaid on a barbarian substrate:
Western European culture is dominated by this sharp dualism between two cultures, two social traditions and two spiritual worlds - the war society of the barbarian kingdom with its cult of heroism and aggression and the peace society of the Christian Church with its ideals of asceticism and renunciation and its high theological culture … I believe that it is to be regarded as the principal source of that dynamic element which is of such decisive significance for Western culture.


This mix of barbarian sinew and Christian faith, with an undergirding of classical thought, is what made the West. For a thousand years, medieval Christendom survived as a world entire in itself. Then, from the Reformation onwards, through the Enlightenment, empire and the rise of science, the Christian story was first challenged and then gradually superseded by another: the story of Progress. This story was the subject of our little manifesto twelve years ago:

Onto the root stock of Western Christianity, the Enlightenment at its most optimistic grafted a vision of an Earthly paradise, towards which human effort guided by calculative reason could take us. Following this guidance, each generation will live a better life than the life of those that went before it. History becomes an escalator, and the only way is up. On the top floor is human perfection. It is important that this should remain just out of reach in order to sustain the sensation of motion.


But the myth of Progress hit the buffers in the second half of the twentieth century. After Auschwitz, after Hiroshima, who could believe it? Those of us who are my age and older can still remember what the year 2000 was supposed to look like when we were children, with its jetpacks and flying cars and moon colonies and electricity too cheap to meter. Nobody mentioned the changing climate or the spiralling extinction rates or the bullshit jobs or the ocean gyres swimming in plastic or the billionaires in their bunkers or the children digging up coltan for the smartphones put together by other children in sweatshops we will never see.

The West was Christendom; but Christendom died. Then the West was Progress; but Progress died. From this vantage point - perhaps still too close to really make out the shape of things - I suspect that the last decade was the period during which this reality hit home for many people. The grand story we grew up with is now impossible even for many former true believers to cleave to. In response, we have entered a period we could call narrative fracture.

While once we might have been able to cleave to a grand narrative like the story of Progress, or smaller but nonetheless unifying stories, like those built around nation states, it is now almost impossible to do this at any scale. The narratives are too fractured. Everything moves too fast, and the centre will not hold. This is the meaning of the ‘culture war’: an ongoing battle over stories, with no sign at all of whether any new grand narrative will rise to replace that of Progress. Perhaps it won’t. Perhaps the days of grand narratives are over. Either way, the battle over stories will not end any time soon.

Why am I writing about this in the second part of an essay on the covid virus? The answer, if it’s not clear by now, is that the response to that virus has been filtered through precisely this process of narrative fracture. This in turn means that when people look at what is going on, they - we - filter what they see through entirely different stories.

I got a taste of this myself, as I knew I would, in response to my previous essay, which escaped the bounds of the little community I have cultivated here and roamed all over the Internet, with predictable results. It may turn out to be my most widely read essay ever - but what people thought they were reading was determined by the narratives they were already seeing the covid era through. Many people - too many to reply to - wrote to thank me for articulating what they were also feeling but felt afraid to say. Others took to their social media accounts to denounce me as a conspiracy theorist and worse. Some people thought they were reading an ‘anti-vaccine essay’, despite the fact that I’d specifically said otherwise. Others thought that my opposition to the coercive measures being employed around the world right now meant I would be on board with this or that florid theory of their own making.

I am hardly the only one to have experienced this: it’s a situation, as many have written to tell me, that is experienced daily across the world right now, in families, in workplaces, online. In particular, those who deviate from what I called the Narrative - the establishment story about covid and the response to it - can expect short shrift or worse. It is a difficult and frightening time for many even to venture out with questions which go against the grain of the official wisdom.

I wrote last time that this virus was apocalyptic, in the sense that it was revealing things previously hidden. One of these things has been the fractured nature of our stories; and that in turn has revealed just how fragile many of our societies are. The myth of Progress tells us we should have faith in certain things - accumulated scientific knowledge; accredited and ‘educated’ experts; journalists who investigate the facts of a story and then explain them to us; the human ability to establish truth - but the process of narrative fracture, which stems from a crisis of trust and legitimacy, means that not only do we not trust these things, but we can’t even agree on what many of them mean. Filter that in turn through the hall of mirrors that is the Internet, and the stage is set for mass confusion, and a consequent deepening of hostility, mistrust and fear.

Over in his online forum The Stoa, philosopher Peter Limberg offers a Hegelian analysis of the two conflicting stories around covid, and how they run up against each other. He calls these two positions Thesis and Antithesis, and describes the first position — the Thesis — like this:
Lockdowns are needed to contain the virus, masks work and need to be mandated, vaccines are safe, people should take the vaccine to protect themselves and others, and vaccine passports will help open things up quicker and encourage those who are hesitant to get vaccinated.

The Thesis is the establishment position. It is held, in Limberg's words, by ‘legacy media ... NGOs, Universities, Western governments, and memetic tribes on the political left.’ In contrast, the opposing view — the Antithesis — is held by a ragtag of political dissidents of all stripes, from right wingers to anarchists, motivated to cluster for different reasons around an alternative story:
Lockdowns are not needed, masks do not work, the safety and efficacy of the vaccines are being oversold, vaccine passports will not only fail but further segregate society, and in the near future we can expect Giradian scapegoating of the unvaccinated. In other words, we are positioned on the precipice of a slippery slope that leads towards increasingly draconian biopolitical control measures, the grip of which is unlikely to release even once the pandemic is over.

We could see the last two years, slightly crudely, as a battle between these two stories. To some degree, your choice of which you adhere to will be dictated by your personal experience. If someone dear to you has died of covid, for example, it may make you more than impatient with people who question the efficacy of vaccines, or campaign against lockdowns. On the other hand, if (like me) you have been locked out of the life of much of your society for six months, for no reason which any science can justify and with no debate or consent, you are equally likely to snap at being told to ‘follow the science’, or trust the authorities to play nicely with your civil liberties. Both of these positions seem reasonable from their own perspective, but they are increasingly impossible to reconcile - and after two years of this, we are all just exhausted.

This is narrative fracture at work, and in the last month or so it feels like it has been happening faster: we have seen the outsider Antithesis apparently gaining ground and the establishment Thesis bleeding support. This is probably due both to the increasingly obvious shakiness of much of the Thesis - especially the failure of the vaccination programme to end the pandemic - and to the radically coercive measures being pursued by its advocates. Vaccine mandates, ‘green passes’, mass sackings, lockdowns of the ‘unvaxxed’, covid detention camps, and a sinister scapegoating campaign: all of these are entirely unprecedented, and are being pursued with little or no transparency, debate or consent. This seems to be sowing doubt in the minds of more and more people who were previously prepared to accept the Thesis.

As this process accelerates - as governments attempt increasingly desperately to vaccinate large numbers of unwilling people by force, even while they and their media allies struggle to suppress alternative narratives and awkward facts - more and more of those who have supported the Thesis may look at what is happening and start to feel uneasy.
Note that this has nothing to do with anybody’s ‘vaccination status’. Whether or not someone is vaccinated is entirely a personal matter; it does not necessarily have any relationship to their view of the authoritarian measures currently being pursued in the name of public health. As those measures ramp up, civil disobedience is beginning to spread. If it spreads further - and if the measures fail or cannot be enforced - the Thesis story will begin to come apart. At that point, anything could happen.

This is the power of stories. A narrative about the world is always a tool - a rough map with which to navigate the complex territory of reality. But the map cannot be mistaken for the territory: if that happens you get stuck in your story, and the story - rather than the reality it points to - begins to dictate your actions.

In his 2020 book The Plague Story, the Australian writer Simon Sheridan suggests that the establishment response to what he calls the coronapocalypse can be seen as the playing out of an already-familiar story: the ‘plague story’ of the title. This, says Sheridan, is a story as old as plagues themselves, which is to say it is eternal. Tracing the structure of this story back through classic novels like Daniel Defoe’s Journal of the Plague Year and Albert Camus’s The Plague, as well as thorough contemporary Hollywood disaster flicks like Outbreak and Contagion, Sheridan suggests that the Plague Story is a pre-existing template, imprinted on our minds through our cultural inheritance, which has been applied inappropriately to the current pandemic.

Everybody knows the Plague Story in the West: we have all seen the films, or read the novels, about the terrifying new virus that escapes from a (usually foreign) lab and destroys much of humanity, until a few heroic outsiders manage to either defeat it with science or outlive it with luck and grit. Sheridan suggests that at the beginning of the pandemic, many governments tried to guide public discourse away from this apocalyptic narrative towards another story, which he calls ‘the flu story’ - that covid was a novel and potentially nasty flu-like illness, but one which could be overcome by pursuing ‘herd immunity’, reasonable health measures and individual good sense. But the attempt was doomed to fail, as pressure from a sensationalist media and a fearful public, egged on by various statistical projections of looming disaster which turned out later to be wrong, pushed them towards the template of the Plague Story:
We started along the path into the plague story when the WHO’s early warning system went off back in January [2020]. When western governments went into lockdown in March, we entered the plague story for real. At time of writing, we are still in the middle of the plague story and we don’t know how to get out of it. How we eventually do get out of the story is anybody’s guess at this point but until we do we are going to be in limbo. That’s because societies run on stories. Not on facts. Not on ‘science’. Not on risk analysis.


Note that the plague - or outbreak, or virus, or pandemic, or whatever word we choose - is distinct from the story we tell about it. Sheridan’s point is that the covid pandemic has been viewed by most people, from the very early days, as a version of the Plague Story, and hence we must play that story out to its conclusion:
Once the plague story became the official interpretation of the corona event, people expected the elements of the story to be fulfilled. Quarantines needed to happen. People breaking the rules needed to be denounced. The experts needed to come to the rescue. All these things became necessary because they are implied by the structure of the story. It is for this reason that we must now have a vaccine because that is a very important part of the modern plague story .... Currently, we have a vaccine-shaped hole that must be filled.

Sheridan’s Plague Story, like Limberg’s Thesis/Antithesis split, is an attempt to explain how the pandemic is seen so differently by so many people, and how this in turn can lead to breakdowns in communication on the most intimate level. Sheridan puts into words an experience that most of us must have had at some point - or many points - in these last two years:

If, like me, you’ve had some very unusual conversations with people over the corona event, it’s almost certainly because you disagree over the validity of the plague story. Arguing over details is not going to change minds at this point because what’s up for grabs is not this or that opinion but an entire explanatory framework. For those of us that think this is an incorrect application of the plague story, the measures taken seem radically and dangerously authoritarian. However, authoritarian actions are normal during a plague, and that is why people who are viewing events through that story don’t have a problem with such actions.


Think of what the key symbols of these covid times mean from the perspective of these different stories, and the dangers of the moment become clear. Masks: abuse of state power, versus sign of social responsibility. Vaccine passports: the beginning of digital tyranny, versus a way to protect the vulnerable from the irresponsible. Vaccine mandates: the forced injection of an experimental drug into the bodies of the unwilling, versus a way to ensure public health in a time of unprecedented danger.

It is the last of these which may mark the point at which the authorities step over a line into uncharted territory. The symbolism of the ‘vaccine mandate’ - the violation of an unwilling body by a needle; the injection of unwanted drugs by forces of the state - this hits way deeper than any rational argument about ‘R numbers’ or ICU beds. For those who cleave to the Thesis or the Plague Story, vaccine mandates are a necessary, if maybe not ideal, next phase of the global response to covid. But for those of us who reject those stories, even partially, they are an outrageous violation. And if the mandates are extended to children, then for many people any remaining bond of trust between governed and governors may irretrievably break down. This is a very bad place for any society to find itself, and especially one which is already reeling from two years of enforced shutdowns and a pandemic which continues to roll on regardless.

Sheridan has the same fears:
If governments cannot bring the plague story that is the coronavirus to an end quickly, it is quite possible that the tensions themselves will lead to a further crisis especially once the real economic impacts of what has happened hit home. Governments will desperately want to bring the plague story to an end by way of a vaccine. But if that doesn’t happen quickly then we will probably see an extended period of conflict between the technocracy and democracy.


Those words were written more than a year ago. Today we can see that, whatever the arguments for or against them, the vaccines have not ended the pandemic - and so the Plague Story continues to spool. Where does it go now? We don’t know. It seems to me that this is all part of the ongoing revelation. I don’t think it is over yet. I fear, more and more, where it might lead us. I fear the rising anger, the mass hysteria, the pretend certainty on all sides. I fear the revelations to come, and I hope daily that my fears are groundless.

The early days of the pandemic, in many places, brought many people together around a shared threat. Whatever our perspectives, we shared the lockdowns, the uncertainty, the desire to see it end. We argued about what it was and what to do; back then, arguments were still possible, and could go uncensored. But the arrival of vaccine passports, mandates and segregation ripped society apart rather than bringing it together, dividing clean from unclean, responsible from irresponsible, foolish from wise, and creating a new class of acceptable scapegoats. The needle and the QR code have become the terrible signs of the times.

This is a perilous place to be, but I think that Sheridan is right: the conflict between democracy and technocracy which has been building for decades is looming clear before us now. This is my story: I have been telling it here for six months, and telling it in my writing for nearly three decades. It is cored around the kind of critique of technology that Lewis Mumford, Jacques Ellul, Ivan Illich, Neil Postman or Vandana Shiva have been advancing for decades, and which we dug deep into back in the 1990s when I worked at The Ecologist magazine. It is a claim - a fear - that a merger of state power, corporate power and galloping technological dominance and control are driving us into Brave New World or Gattaca with barely a murmur. It is the story of technocracy: the story of the Machine.

In 2021, this story has intertwined itself with the story of the virus and piggybacked upon it, using the pandemic to accelerate a pre-existing direction of travel. As we fight bitterly over the wedge issues of the age - vaccine safety, new variants, ivermectin, mandates - this meta-story continues to play itself out around and above us, its authors promising a software update that will reboot the Progress story for the Smart world to come, and save us all from illness and even death. I will write more about this next time, in the third and final part of this series.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby overcoming hope » Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:23 am

I am hardly the only one to have experienced this: it’s a situation, as many have written to tell me, that is experienced daily across the world right now, in families, in workplaces, online. In particular, those who deviate from what I called the Narrative - the establishment story about covid and the response to it - can expect short shrift or worse. It is a difficult and frightening time for many even to venture out with questions which go against the grain of the official wisdom



Tyranny in democratic republics does not proceed in the same way, however. It ignores the body and goes straight for the soul. The master no longer says: You will think as I do or die. He says: You are free not to think as I do. You may keep your life, your property, and everything else. But from this day forth you shall be as a stranger among us. You will retain your civic privileges, but they will be of no use to you. For if you seek the votes of your fellow citizens, they will withhold them, and if you seek only their esteem, they will feign to refuse even that. You will remain among men, but you will forfeit your rights to humanity. When you approach your fellow creatures, they will shun you as one who is impure. And even those who believe in your innocence will abandon you, lest they, too, be shunned in turn. Go in peace, I will not take your life, but the life I leave you with is worse than death.
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Postby drstrangelove » Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:42 am

Harvey » Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:51 pm wrote:I'm so angry with these motherfuckers, I don't know what to do with it.

1) undermine trust and faith in the current solutions offered by institutional authorities. this is done through a massive and relentless decentralised propaganda campaign of the grassroots. the more institutions censor online platforms the more those platforms become powerless. when twitter censors tweets, it is losing power through leveraging it. when a centralised platform removes large portions of its users, they go elsewhere, creating a more decentralised information system. they are treating the symptoms of a disease which continues to destroy their body.
2) individual non-compliance with all systems and rules dictated by the current solution.
3) community non-compliance through mass demonstration.

The key is moral. High moral is hope that one can meaningfully impact the future right? So if there is time in the present and high moral, there is hope in taking all of these actions, and through doing so those actions are given meaning.

The fundamental thing the institutions have against them is that they are trying to convince people to take action through inactivity. This goes against human nature. While the resistence movement to them is calling on people to take action through activity.

While I engage in the perpetual propaganda campaign against the fact-checkers online, I also take to the streets to become apart of the protest community and absorb high levels of the human spirit. My day to day non-compliance with the new systems and rules give my everyday actions more meaning than they have ever had.

This is a war of attrition, and only one side offers people high moral. The Vietnamese know all about high moral in the face of superior opposition. The Vietnamese won. . .
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:46 am

Pilot’s Union Magazine (ALPA) Allegedly Reveal That Pilot Deaths Increased 1700% Post Vaccine Mandate, And That’s Only The First 9 Months Of 2021 Over 2020

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I'm sure this has nothing to do with the #covid19 #vaccine most of them were coerced into taking.

Pilot Deaths:

2019: 1
2020: 6
2021: 109 (through September)
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:30 am

stickdog99 » 09 Dec 2021 09:19 wrote:https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/pfizer-document-concedes-that-there-is-a-large-increase-in-types-of-adverse-event-reaction-to-its-vaccine/

PFIZER DOCUMENT CONCEDES THAT THERE IS A LARGE INCREASE IN TYPES OF ADVERSE EVENT REACTION TO ITS VACCINE

Document released by Pfizer apparently as a result of a Freedom Of Information court order in the USA reveals a vast array of previously unknown vaccine adverse effects compiled from official sources around the world.

Pfizer concedes this is ‘a large increase’ in adverse event reports and that even this huge volume is under reported.

Over 100+ diseases are listed, many very serious.

This document was compiled by Pfizer in the very early days of the vaccine rollout in NZ but was possibly not supplied to our government.

We examine the implications for government.

Up until now, New Zealand GPs and hospitals have been provided with a fact sheet from Pfizer listing 21 possible adverse events as a result of vaccination.

All of these are minor, requiring little or no treatment other than rest, with the exception of severe allergic reactions, myocarditis and pericarditis (inflammation of the heart). As a result, most of the many thousands of New Zealanders reporting adverse effects post vaccination have been sent home with little more than advice to take an aspirin and rest. Some have been told that their conditions may be unrelated medical events, psychosomatic, or due to anxiety on their part.

Relying on the short official Pfizer fact sheet as a guide, Medsafe, our NZ medicines regulatory body, has only accepted one out of the 100+ deaths actually reported to them as related to vaccination. Most are listed as unrelated, under investigation, or unknowable. By contrast, the NZ Health Forum and other groups have collected unofficial reports of adverse effects and death proximate to vaccination. Out of 670+ reports of death compiled by the Forum, 270 have already been investigated by medical professionals and closely linked to known adverse effects. Following the publication of the new Pfizer document many more are expected to be connected with vaccination. Reports describe symptoms such as chest pain, brain fog, extreme fatigue, neurological symptoms, tachycardia, stroke, heart attacks, and many more. Collected data suggests that as many as two-thirds of adverse event enquiries made to medical staff by vaccine recipients have not been reported to CARM—the NZ system of adverse event reporting. Medsafe itself estimates in its Guide to Adverse Reaction Reporting that in NZ only 5% of adverse events are reported. As a result the NZ public is completely unaware of the extent of reported possible risks of vaccination.

The just released Pfizer document which is being circulated widely in the public domain and can downloaded from websites is entitled:

5.3.6 CUMULATIVE ANALYSIS OF POST-AUTHORIZATION ADVERSE EVENT REPORTS OF PF-07302048 (BNT162B2) RECEIVED THROUGH 28-FEB-2021

Therefore the reported side effects predate the vaccine rollout in New Zealand. The report itself was finalised by Pfizer on 30 April 2021. Did Pfizer supply this information to our government during the early days of our universal vaccination programme? If so the results should have been shared with our medical professionals, politicians, and the public. Many of the new 100+ listed new adverse event types now released by Pfizer in this 38 page document pose long term risks to health. Until very recently, the document was being withheld by Pfizer who maintained it should be kept confidential. There is a strong possibility that very large numbers of New Zealanders will suffer long term injury as a result.

How did this happen without anyone’s knowledge?

Even though the Pfizer vaccine had undergone very short trials and had provisional approval only, Medsafe did not update its CARM adverse event reporting system to make it mandatory rather than voluntary.

Medsafe did not advise GPs and Hospital staff to be on high alert for adverse events and report them rapidly and in detail.

The Government ignored the unprecedented numbers of adverse events being reported to Medsafe and circulating in the community and on social media.

The Government instituted a public relations, promotional, and media campaign advising the public that the Pfizer covid-19 mRNA vaccine was completely safe and free of serious side effects, giving the impression that there were no side effects—not even the known serious effects of heart inflammation that Pfizer had already admitted.

Unaccountably, conditions imposed by the contract that our Government signed with Pfizer for the supply of vaccines have not been made public. We suspect that the contract contains standard clauses similar to those used with drugs that have completed safety trials, such as a provision that public discussion of adverse events may only be undertaken in conjunction with the company supplying the drug. If this is the case, it will have hamstrung Medsafe and our Government in their approach to assessment and public discussion of adverse events.

What are the new risks of vaccination?

Anyone reading the new Pfizer adverse event report compilation will be staggered. The sheer density of the technical medical terms and disease names are nevertheless broken down into recognisable and serious categories of illness—kidney failure, stroke, cardiac events, pregnancy complications, inflammation, neurological disease, autoimmune failure, paralysis, liver failure, blood disorders, skin disease, musculoskeletal problems, arthritis, respiratory disease, DVT, blood clots, vascular disease, haemorrhage, loss of sight, Bell’s palsy, and epilepsy.

How has this affected New Zealand?

Whilst even the official Medsafe record of adverse effects and the unofficial lists show that the immediate risks of covid vaccination could be as much as 50 – 300 times greater than even the most risky of previous traditional vaccines (such as the smallpox jab), and whilst the long term effects are unknown, 90% of eligible New Zealanders have gone ahead with vaccination having accepted the assurances of safety and efficacy from the government, or having been forced to get vaccinated under threat of loss of employment and freedom of movement. Feeling the fear of covid that has been generated by reports in the international and local media, most people completing vaccination heaved a great sigh of relief—that is one huge worry off my mind, now I can get on with my life.

Those finding that no immediate insurmountable reaction had surfaced (the majority) understandably agreed with the government: “What is all the fuss about? Why shouldn’t everyone do this, or be made to do this? It is a social good that will protect everyone”

BUT there is a huge iceberg in the path of the good ship New Zealand hidden under the waves of relief. Thousands are quietly suffering debilitating illness, unacknowledged and in some cases untreated by their doctors. For those who survived vaccination without immediate injury this was not a problem because they didn’t know about it apart from one or two complaints from friends that might just be random coincidences.

This has brought about a division in New Zealand society which the government created in the name of public safety. Thousands of dedicated servants of the nation including teachers, health workers, and others are being stigmatised and forced out of their jobs in a manner horrifyingly reminiscent of the treatment of Jews in Nazi Germany. The government did this despite knowing that the Pfizer vaccine was neither fully tested, safe, nor particularly effective. Judges handed down decisions in courts supporting the government mandates unaware of crucial mRNA vaccine safety data, all because Pfizer had withheld this information, and the government had not done its due diligence. Had the true position been known, the High Court’s NZ Bill of Rights analysis may well have been different and its provision which guarantees that every individual should be able to make their own medical choices might still be intact.

Pfizer’s conclusions

Pfizer concludes the released document with a statement “Review of the available data for this cumulative PM experience, confirms a favorable benefit:risk balance for BNT162b2.” PM stands for the Post Marketing data set they are evaluating of 42,086 reported adverse events. Pfizer makes this bald claim of benefit despite admitting that “the magnitude of underreporting is unknown”. This document contains no further substantive information in support of this claim of benefit:risk balance other than a mysterious reference to “the known safety profile of the vaccine”.

The benefit:risk argument is in essence saying: covid-19 is a serious illness and our calculations show that more people will be injured by the disease than are being injured by the vaccine, therefore there will be a net benefit. This argument falls over because of at least three very important factors: Firstly treatment options have improved and thereby the risk of serious illness and death from covid has been greatly reduced.

Secondly the risk of covid is not evenly spread. People with comorbidities (other conditions) and the elderly are at very high risk. Most other people are at very low risk. Thus vaccination could subject people at low risk from covid to a higher risk from vaccination. Approaches to preventive health education can reduce the covid risk to people with comorbidities more than vaccination can. For example a study published in the BMJ found that people following a plant based diet have a 73% reduced risk of serious illness. Data from the UK Biobank has been analysed by researchers from Manchester and Oxford Universities and the West Indies who found that shift workers (who typically have disrupted bioclocks) have three times the risk of being hospitalised with covid. Preventive remedies include changes in diet such as the introduction of more fresh fruit, vegetables, and fibre, and reductions in known unhealthy habits such as smoking, excess alcohol consumption, an overly sedentary lifestyle, a predominance of ultra processed foods, and many more.

The third and most significant reason the benefit:risk argument falls over is the sheer range of adverse reaction types observed by Pfizer and kept hidden until now.

How could a single vaccine have such a wide range of effects?

The technical reasons why mRNA vaccines can have such broad effects on human health are understood by those working in gene therapy. Perfectly stable DNA function is critical to life. In turn, cell function integrity is critical to maintaining DNA. Individual cells contain mechanisms to repair their own DNA as many as 70,000 times a day. From this perspective, the in vitro laboratory study recently published in Viruses 2021, 13,2056, is indicative. It suggests a possible mechanism for vaccine harm. The study found that the spike protein localises in the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding access of key DNA repair proteins. The findings reveal a potential molecular pathway by which the covid spike protein might impede adaptive immunity. They underscore the potential side effects of the full-length spike-based mRNA vaccines.

Despite a degree of cellular autonomy, the nervous system and the physiology must and does function as a whole. The entire nervous system including the immune system is a ‘part and whole’ network. The whole is in every part, the DNA is in every cell, but cell function is also related to a generalised and interconnected genetic network—the holistic functioning of the physiological network is critical to its efficiency. Thus physiological network stability (health) can be impaired by the introduction of pieces of active genetic code (biologic instructions) like those contained in mRNA vaccines.

An analogy will make this clear. We are familiar with computer networks. A very common backbone of most commercial systems is produced by Microsoft. Each computer contains the Microsoft system and the network also runs under its system. The system is supported by computer code—a set of complex instructions written by Microsoft. Individual computers can perform standalone tasks and can communicate with other computers to keep the organisation running smoothly. This can be compared to our physiology. There are many systems in the body: immune system, circulatory system, digestive system, limbic system, homeostatic mechanisms, musculoskeletal structure, neural networks, and so on. They perform apparently stand alone functions, but all run on the basis of the same genetic code contained in our DNA and communicate with one another during the process of maintaining health. Back to our analogy: office staff sometimes send messages full of spelling errors to one another but this doesn’t harm the network. If however a computer virus written in code is sent by one computer it can overwhelm and crash network function because it affects the operating system. Some networks are protected by good firewalls and others are vulnerable. The Covid vaccine introduces a sequence of information written in genetic code into our physiology. It is no wonder that it could elicit such a very broad range of adverse effects, some of which are so serious as to be analogous to a computer network crash. Some individuals have strong immune systems and are little affected, others experience problems in one or other systems. The fact that a sequence of foreign code has been introduced into the physiology produces major risks to health, risks that those working in gene therapy for the last few decades are very familiar with.

The extremely broad range of adverse effects revealed by the Pfizer document is the physiological signature of a general control system failure, a failure of the body’s overall integration and function. It is not plausible to suggest otherwise. That is why experts in genomics, even as I write, are pondering fundamental questions about the action and safety of mRNA vaccines. They are also urging caution.

Conclusion

The NZ government agreed commercial terms with a single company for vaccine supply. It is possible that vital information was withheld. The public was kept in ignorance of known risks. This has divided our society and undermined our fundamental Kiwi tolerance on the basis of not only incomplete but misleading safety data. The government is asleep at the wheel. Knowing full well that safety trials were incomplete, the government apparently accepted information supplied by multinational commercial interests at face value. This should be a ‘never again’ moment. There are huge lessons to be learned and an apology owed to the whole population. The provisions of the NZ BIll of Rights should be given constitutional status. The vaccine mandates should be withdrawn and those affected by them compensated. The proposed vaccination of 5 -11 year olds should be stopped.


I probably don't say this enough ... but anyway when you post stuff like this this I often share it with people I know who are what you'd call pro vaccine and pro mandated vaccines as well. (If I haven't already come across it.)
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Postby stickdog99 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:07 pm

And I probably don't say it enough, but my life would be so much easier if I could just learn to stop worrying and love mRNA vaccines. So if you ever come across any positive all-cause mortality and morbidity data showing that any of these vaccines definitely help people more than they harm people, I would love to see those data!
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