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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:19 pm

stickdog99 » 02 Dec 2022 08:35 wrote:New Health Science Reports Study:

"A significant reduction of three percent was observed in VO2max values post-booster dose administration. ... A 9% reduction of probable clinical relevance was observed in 19% of athletes."



The 2.7% decrease in VO2 max that was found is consistent with any decrease in VO2 max due to vaccination or infection from inflammatory responses. How do you reckon the vaccine could cause a drop in VO2 max that is different from the usual associated decrease due to any infammation? Infection has been shown to decrease VO2 max by 10% - any infection.

Its also less than the de training effects from two weeks of no exercise. And the people writing the paper actually recommended a period of three days of no training after the vaccine and before the test.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:43 pm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11498155/Whistleblower-worked-funded-Wuhan-lab-claims-Covid-genetically-engineered-leaked.html

Whistleblower US scientist who worked with Wuhan lab claims COVID WAS genetically engineered and leaked from the site - and says 'the US government is to blame' because it funded the research

Dr Andrew Huff, the former vice president of EcoHealth Alliance, has claimed that SARS-CoV-2 was genetically engineered and leaked from a facility in China

Huff said he has no proof that the leak was deliberate however does claim in his explosive tell-all book that biosecurity at the Chinese facility was compromised

EcoHealth Alliance had been studying different coronaviruses in bats for more than ten years with funding from the National Institutes of Health

Led by Dr Peter Daszak - there were concerns about the ties between Wuhan and EcoHealth Alliance - there most recent grant came in September 2021


“The gov. knew that the Covid jabs didn’t prevent transmission…it’s not what it’s meant to do.” - Dr. Andrew Huff (EcoHealth)
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:22 am

Harvey » 05 Dec 2022 11:43 wrote:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11498155/Whistleblower-worked-funded-Wuhan-lab-claims-Covid-genetically-engineered-leaked.html

Whistleblower US scientist who worked with Wuhan lab claims COVID WAS genetically engineered and leaked from the site - and says 'the US government is to blame' because it funded the research

Dr Andrew Huff, the former vice president of EcoHealth Alliance, has claimed that SARS-CoV-2 was genetically engineered and leaked from a facility in China

Huff said he has no proof that the leak was deliberate however does claim in his explosive tell-all book that biosecurity at the Chinese facility was compromised

EcoHealth Alliance had been studying different coronaviruses in bats for more than ten years with funding from the National Institutes of Health

Led by Dr Peter Daszak - there were concerns about the ties between Wuhan and EcoHealth Alliance - there most recent grant came in September 2021


“The gov. knew that the Covid jabs didn’t prevent transmission…it’s not what it’s meant to do.” - Dr. Andrew Huff (EcoHealth)


Look the US government isn't to blame.

The people who fucken well leaked it are. Whether it was deliberate or just fucking up basic bio-security procedures (more likely imo), the people running the lab and working on the cirus are the ones who should have controlled the situation properly.

Unless it was deliberate then the people to blame for the leak are the people who fucked up, including the people in charge if they didn't implement proper biosecurity. And they obviously didn't.

(If it was a deliberate leak then everyone who was involved in the deliberate leak, including states if it was done on orders from a government, is to blame.)
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:54 am

Joe Hillshoist » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:22 am wrote:Look the US government isn't to blame.


I haven't said as much, I presented some headlines culled by the Mail from a forthcoming book, but I admire your continued confidence at this point.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:50 am

It appears something's been added to the exclusion criteria for organ donation receipts in Australia and New Zealand.

4.2.3 Exclusion criteria
Exclusion criteria include any condition or combination of conditions that would result in an unacceptably high
mortality risk from heart transplant surgery, significantly and adversely affect post-transplant survival, or preclude
active rehabilitation after transplantation.5,6,12
Major exclusion criteria for heart transplantation are as follows:

. . .

Non-compliance with recommended pre-transplantation vaccinations: The seroconversion rate after
vaccinations is significantly higher in the non-immunosuppressed population compared to vaccination
in immunosuppressed solid organ transplant recipients. It is therefore critical that potential transplant
recipients are vaccinated before transplantation, to enable them to develop adequate immune
responses to the pathogen32,33. Rates of COVID-19 infection, severity of illness and mortality rates
have been reported to be lower in the fully vaccinated transplant recipients, compared to non or
partially vaccinated recipients. This highlights further the importance of adherence to medical advice for
recommended vaccination schedules.34

- https://tsanz.com.au/storage/documents/ ... _Final.pdf

To be fair, vaccinated demographics would be, pro rata, the group most in need of a heart transplant, and also pro rata, the group providing the most donors.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby drstrangelove » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:09 am

also this from my city masthead:

Royal Children’s Hospital advises patients to go elsewhere as wait time blows out to 12 hours

. . .

Chief of medicine Associate Professor Tom Connell told ABC Radio Melbourne that the hospital was seeing an unseasonable number of viral infections on top of the “usual mixed bag that presents to the emergency department”, while dealing with continued staff absences due to COVID.

. . .

“The children aren’t presenting with COVID, but there is obviously some staff who have COVID,” he said, adding that the number of staff furloughed had been stable over the past month.


- https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 5c3v7.html
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:01 pm

Jennifer Sey
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They lied about everything. Lockdowns, masks, vaccines.

They’re still lying. Saying we never had a lockdown. Saying we never promised vax prevented infection. Saying we didn’t force compliance. Saying we never lied.

Question. Resist. Speak up. Use your voice.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:58 am

Harvey » 05 Dec 2022 20:54 wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:22 am wrote:Look the US government isn't to blame.


I haven't said as much, I presented some headlines culled by the Mail from a forthcoming book, but I admire your continued confidence at this point.


I was responding to what you posted, and what that bloke said. He worked for an NGO that probably had more direct responsibility for what happened than the US government did.

So it seems natural he'd want to cast blame elsewhere.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:35 pm

Joe Hillshoist » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:58 pm wrote:
Harvey » 05 Dec 2022 20:54 wrote:
Joe Hillshoist » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:22 am wrote:Look the US government isn't to blame.


I haven't said as much, I presented some headlines culled by the Mail from a forthcoming book, but I admire your continued confidence at this point.


I was responding to what you posted, and what that bloke said. He worked for an NGO that probably had more direct responsibility for what happened than the US government did.

So it seems natural he'd want to cast blame elsewhere.


But you cannot see clearly, or what the bloke attached blame to according to a newspaper account of his book, would be the last of your concerns.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:03 pm

Joe Hillshoist » 03 Dec 2022 02:19 wrote:
stickdog99 » 02 Dec 2022 08:35 wrote:New Health Science Reports Study:

"A significant reduction of three percent was observed in VO2max values post-booster dose administration. ... A 9% reduction of probable clinical relevance was observed in 19% of athletes."



The 2.7% decrease in VO2 max that was found is consistent with any decrease in VO2 max due to vaccination or infection from inflammatory responses. How do you reckon the vaccine could cause a drop in VO2 max that is different from the usual associated decrease due to any infammation? Infection has been shown to decrease VO2 max by 10% - any infection.

Its also less than the de training effects from two weeks of no exercise. And the people writing the paper actually recommended a period of three days of no training after the vaccine and before the test.


The measurements were made a week after the booster injection. So that is an obvious limitation to the study, but none of these subject reported having any symptoms of infection one week after the booster injection. And all had already been injected with this stuff at least twice before.

First of all, the statistically significant 1.3 ml/kg/min reduction in VO2max may not be considered clinically relevant in our population. Indeed, a small and potentially temporary decline in VO2max does not necessarily imply a decline in athletic performance. While VO2max is one determinant of athletic performance, other important factors include exercise economy and fractional utilization of VO2max, depending on exercise conditions.18, 19 Furthermore, a potentially clinically relevant decrease in VO2max of 8.6% or more was only found in 19%.

From our data, the mechanism of this reduction remains unclear. In fact on linear regression analysis, only 17% of the variance of the difference in VO2max after vaccination could be explained through the variance in O2pulse max (p = 0.007). This suggests that other factors, such as the peripheral efficiency of O2 extraction play a role. This has been described in COVID-19 and in long-COVID. These findings certainly warrant future clarification.[/b]

Second, as we did not include a sham-vaccinated group (see also under limitations), we cannot firmly state that the administration of the booster vaccine caused the decrease in VO2max. An alternative explanation could be a detraining effect as the result of our advice not to perform intensive exercise during the first 3 days after vaccination. However, whereas a period of 2–4 weeks of detraining can result in a decline of VO2max, short periods of relative rest have not been shown to impact exercise capacity in well-trained athletes.22, 23 Moreover, most of the participants in our study did not report an important decrease in either training volume or training intensity. A post hoc subanalysis of those athletes in our series who reported no decrease in sports participation after vaccination confirmed the decrease in VO2max, suggesting that detraining is not the most important explanation for this finding.

Finally, as we only tested our subjects 7 days after booster administration, it is still uncertain how long the observed decline in VO2max lasts. This could be the subject of future studies in this field.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:17 pm

drstrangelove » 05 Dec 2022 14:50 wrote:It appears something's been added to the exclusion criteria for organ donation receipts in Australia and New Zealand.

Rates of COVID-19 infection, severity of illness and mortality rates
have been reported to be lower in the fully vaccinated transplant recipients, compared to non or
partially vaccinated recipients. This highlights further the importance of adherence to medical advice for
recommended vaccination schedules.34

- https://tsanz.com.au/storage/documents/ ... _Final.pdf

To be fair, vaccinated demographics would be, pro rata, the group most in need of a heart transplant, and also pro rata, the group providing the most donors.


The paper cited to buttress the bolded nonsense is a study that examined the self-report responses of 100 liver transplant subjects.

Here is the full abstract of that paper:

The study sought to investigate the psychiatric and psychosocial correlates of multidimensional adherence among liver transplant candidates. A liver transplant candidate sample (N = 100), comprising consecutive patients attending outpatient clinics of a liver transplantation central unit, was assessed by means of the Multidimensional Adherence Questionnaire (MAQ; Telles-Correia 2007), the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Revised 4th Edition (DSM-IV-TR) criteria, the Toronto Alexithymia Scale (TAS), the NEO Five-Factor Inventory (NEO-FFI) personality inventory, the Hospital Anxiety and Depression Scale (HADS), the Brief COPE, and the Psychological Assessment of Candidates for Transplantation (PACT). We found that multidimensional adherence positively correlated with personality traits (agreeableness), good social support, and coping strategies (planning).


LOL at claiming that this 2009 study shows "rates of COVID-19 infection, severity of illness and mortality rates have been reported to be lower in the fully vaccinated transplant recipients, compared to non or partially vaccinated recipients." or that this study "highlights further the importance of adherence to medical advice for recommended vaccination schedules."
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:50 pm

How Many Studies Will it Take to Convince Your Vaxx-Loving Friends and Family the Jabs Cause Myocarditis?

Another Study Confirms Myocarditis Post Jab

A study estimated the incidence of myocarditis after COVID-19 shots and compared it with expected rates in British Columbia; a significantly increased risk of myocarditis was found following COVID-19 jabs

* While seven myocarditis cases would be expected within seven days, the study found 99 cases among those who’d received the shots
Within 21 days post-vaccination, 141 cases of myocarditis occurred. The expected rate was 20

* This worked out to a myocarditis rate of 1.37 per 100,000 COVID-19 doses, compared with an expected rate of 0.39 per 100,000 people who did not get the shots

* Rates of myocarditis after COVID-19 shots were highest among males, those aged 18 to 29 years, people who received a Moderna COVID-19 shot and people who received two doses

* The rate of myocarditis among males aged 18 to 29 who received Moderna’s COVID-19 shot was 22.9 per 100,000

Yet another study has revealed people who receive a COVID-19 shot are at an increased risk of myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart muscle.1 With symptoms similar to a heart attack, including chest pain, shortness of breath, abnormal heartbeat and fatigue,2 myocarditis isn’t something that young, healthy adults typically experience.

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Postby Belligerent Savant » Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:10 am

@Believe_Mothers

Coming down the pike for New York…guarantee all other Dem ran states will be following suit.

Get your battle armor on, it’s going to be a tough legislative session.

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Go here to look up each bill…https://nyassembly.gov/leg/?bn=A08378&leg_video=


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Postby Harvey » Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:35 am

From the tweet ^

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If you're on twitter (still locked out of all my accounts) retweet this @ Jimmy D. He'll probably cover it, which would be a good way to get more eyeballs on it. I've looked at a few of the bills and the above is an accurate description.
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