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slow_dazzle wrote:And the "tune in, turn on, drop out" mentality really gets up my nose. Stupid twats. I often wonder whether the concept was deliberately fostered to prevent any real action during the 1960's.
What organisation introduced Leary to LSD...?
King_Mob wrote:Another example of this New Age blind optimism is the so called "Secret" to success and happiness, which also seems to tie in with the latest trend in pseudo-intellectual interpretations of quantum mechanics.
FourthBase wrote:I think another subset/branch of this thinking is "pessimistic optimism", in which far left progressives have given up on fixing anything, given up on preventing the shit from hitting the fan, given up on undermining/overtaking the elite puppetmasters, and now just focus on living as an "example of how to live" and maybe surviving in the wilderness or on the fringe of whatever civilization will exist. It's a tragic way of thinking, and ultimately a selfish irresponsible cowardly way of thinking. And it's spreading. I have no problem with having a backup plan to try to escape, but only planning to "just live life and return to nature" = 100% doomed. I think that mentality is connected to the new age spiritualistic crap.
FourthBase wrote:I think another subset/branch of this thinking is "pessimistic optimism", in which far left progressives have given up on fixing anything, given up on preventing the shit from hitting the fan, given up on undermining/overtaking the elite puppetmasters, and now just focus on living as an "example of how to live" and maybe surviving in the wilderness or on the fringe of whatever civilization will exist. It's a tragic way of thinking, and ultimately a selfish irresponsible cowardly way of thinking. And it's spreading. I have no problem with having a backup plan to try to escape, but only planning to "just live life and return to nature" = 100% doomed. I think that mentality is connected to the new age spiritualistic crap.
And why not? Why should they be left to clean up the mess of generations past?
I think another subset/branch of this thinking is "pessimistic optimism", in which far left progressives have given up on fixing anything, given up on preventing the shit from hitting the fan, given up on undermining/overtaking the elite puppetmasters, and now just focus on living as an "example of how to live" and maybe surviving in the wilderness or on the fringe of whatever civilization will exist. It's a tragic way of thinking, and ultimately a selfish irresponsible cowardly way of thinking. And it's spreading. I have no problem with having a backup plan to try to escape, but only planning to "just live life and return to nature" = 100% doomed. I think that mentality is connected to the new age spiritualistic crap.
FourthBase wrote:And why not? Why should they be left to clean up the mess of generations past?
Because it's the only right thing to do.
But, perhaps the "right thing to do" is in fact to withdraw from the mess, and start anew. Our current model for society is based on an illusion of scarcity, hence the great disparity between the elite class and the poor. What if the next generation did decide to reject that model of false scarcity, and instead, work on a model that is based on sustainability and abundance. Perhaps those kids who are yearning to live the idyllic fantasy, will be the ones who actually do make sustainability and abundance a viable option. "To fight the empire is to become infected by its derangement." No amount of force can change the status quo, so it's tough to say what is the best solution really is. But you're right Fourthbase, to simply want to escape everything is no solution, instead, we need to want to change things.
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