Obama's Af-Pak speech 12/1/9

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Postby lightningBugout » Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:14 pm

Oh so its simply a re-election strategy. Good to know.

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Obama speech: More troops, no endless commitment

By JENNIFER LOVEN and ANNE GEARAN
Associated Press Writers

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama is sending 30,000 extra U.S. troops to Afghanistan on an accelerated timetable that will have the first Marines there as early as Christmas and all forces in place by summer. But he'll also declare Tuesday night that troops will begin leaving in less than three years.

In a prime-time speech to the nation from West Point that ends a 92-day review, Obama will seek to sell his much bigger, costlier war plan to a skeptical public in part by twinning it with some specifics about an exit strategy, said two senior administration officials.

He will tell the American people that U.S. troops will start leaving Afghanistan "well before" the end of his first term, with the aim of ending the main U.S. military mission there, one official said. However, Obama will not lay out precisely when he believes the war will end, the official said. Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity to not upstage the president's speech.

With U.S. casualties in Afghanistan sharply increasing and little sign of progress from the war's beginning in 2001, the war Obama has called one "of necessity," not choice, has grown less popular with the public and within his own Democratic Party. In recent days, leading Democrats have talked of setting tough conditions on deeper U.S. involvement, or even staging outright opposition.

Obama is acknowledging the divided public opinion with his emphasis on an exit, as well as on stepped-up training to help Afghan forces take over and a series of specific demands for other governments, including Afghanistan, Pakistan and NATO allies, to contribute more.

Unease with Obama's approach to the war is sure to be on display on Capitol Hill when congressional hearings begin this week.

With the full complement of new troops expected to be in Afghanistan by next summer, the heightened pace of Obama's military deployment appears to mimic the 2007 troop surge in Iraq, a 20,000-strong force addition under President George W. Bush. Similar in strategy to that mission, Obama's Afghan surge aims to reverse gains by Taliban insurgents and to secure population centers in the volatile south and east parts of the country.

In his speech and in meetings overseas in the coming days, Obama also will ask NATO allies to contribute more - between 5,000 and 10,000 new troops - to the separate international force in Afghanistan, diplomats said.

One official from a European nation said the troop figure was included in an official NATO document compiled on the basis of information received from Washington ahead of Obama's announcement. The NATO force in Afghanistan now stands at around 40,000 troops.

Obama also will make tougher demands on the governments of Pakistan and, especially, Afghanistan.

In Afghanistan, rampant government corruption and inefficiency have made U.S. success much harder. The Afghan government said Tuesday that President Hamid Karzai and Obama had an hourlong video conference. Obama spoke Tuesday with Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari.

The 30,000 new U.S. troops will bring the total in Afghanistan to more than 100,000.

The president's long-awaited troop increase had been envisioned to take place over a year, or even more, because force deployments in Iraq and elsewhere make it logistically difficult to go faster. But Obama directed his military planners to make the changes necessary to hasten the Afghanistan additions, said one official.

Military officials said at least one group of Marines is expected to deploy within two or three weeks, a recognition by the administration that something tangible needs to happen quickly.

The new Marines would provide badly needed reinforcements to those fighting against Taliban gains in the southern Helmand province. They also could lend reassurance to both Afghans and a war-weary U.S. public.

Obama's announcement comes near the end of a year in which the war has worsened despite the president's earlier infusion of 21,000 forces.

Previewing a narrative the president is likely to stress, press secretary Robert Gibbs told ABC that the number of fresh troops don't tell the whole story. Obama will emphasize that Afghan security forces need more time, more schooling and more U.S. combat backup to be up to the job on their own.

In Kabul, Lt. Gen. William B. Caldwell, the new head of a U.S.-NATO command responsible for training and developing Afghan soldiers and police, said Tuesday the groundwork is being laid to expand the Afghan National Army beyond the current target of 134,000 soldiers and 96,800 police by next October. But, he said, no fixed higher target is set.

There is a general goal of eventually fielding 240,000 Afghan soldiers and 160,000 police, but Caldwell said in a telephone interview with the AP that that could change depending on reviews beginning next spring or early next summer.

One reason is the expected cost. "If you grow it up to 400,000 - if you did grow all the way to that number, and if it was required to help bring greater security to this country - then of course you have to sustain it at that level, too, in terms of the cost of maintaining a force that size," he said. Nearly all the cost of building Afghan forces has been borne by the U.S. and other countries thus far.

Obama was spending much of Monday and Tuesday on the phone, outlining his plan - minus many specifics - for the leaders of France, Britain, Germany, Russia, China, India, Denmark, Poland and others. He also met in person at the White House with Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.

A briefing for dozens of key lawmakers was planned for Tuesday afternoon, just before Obama was set to leave the White House for the speech against a military backdrop.

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Associated Press writers Robert Burns and Anne Flaherty in Washington and Slobodan Lekic in Brussels contributed to this report.

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Postby lupercal » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:11 pm

Weird speech. First a few paragraphs of Bush, then a little Kerry, then a page of Rummy, pages and pages of hollow Clintonism with scary sentences of Cheney sprinkled in. A long way to announce that nothing has changed and the permawars will continue.

And is it just me or is that intelligent snap crackle pop in his voice starting to sound a little soggy?
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Postby DoYouEverWonder » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:36 pm

Why am I not surprised? Obomba tells more lies to justify a war based on lies.
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Postby marshwren » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:37 pm

Well, i don't know about the rest of you, but i've seen this movie before. Spoiler alert: It still has a bad ending...we just have to sit through a few more reels...
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Postby vigilant » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:24 am

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Postby Nordic » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:14 am

And FINALLY he's made the Republicans happy. He must be very proud right now.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/0 ... 75400.html

Bush Officials, RNC Praise Obama's Afghan Knowledge And Surge Strategy

What a fucking joke. Anyone who thinks we really aren't under one-party rule is a complete idiot after tonight.
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Postby 8bitagent » Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:08 am

Nordic wrote:And FINALLY he's made the Republicans happy. He must be very proud right now.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/0 ... 75400.html

Bush Officials, RNC Praise Obama's Afghan Knowledge And Surge Strategy

What a fucking joke. Anyone who thinks we really aren't under one-party rule is a complete idiot after tonight.


Dear goodness. Thanks for posting this.


Here's Obama's attack dog Joe Biden out on all the talk shows to aggressively defend the Af-Pak Obama policy, AKA "Only Obama can get Osama" surge:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/0 ... 76087.html

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Postby Gouda » Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:28 am

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Just about everything you need to know about U.S. foreign policy is in this short post by the Atlantic's Marc Ambinder:

President Obama convened a last-minute meeting of his national security team tonight to discuss the language that his administration will use to describe its new strategy for Afghanistan. Two administration sources confirmed that the meeting, which began at 5:00 pm, included cabinet officials like Defense Secretary Robert Gates...

An official said that Obama plans to try explain the interconnection between the the stability of Pakistan and the nexus of terror in Afghanistan. An explanation that the American people would accept has proven elusive.


The decision's been made. Now all we need is a reason!


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[Bushie Dan Senor] also touched on the importance of the administration to continually educate the public on Afghanistan and "setting realistic expectations of the American people."
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Postby SanDiegoBuffGuy » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:11 pm

I have some questions about numbers here:

1. If this is supposedly a fight against "al-Qaeda", just how many people are identified as "members," "associates," "affiliates," or what have you? How many of these are in Afghanistan? What's the ratio of US troops to al-qaeda there? Do we have 3 troops for each "terrorist"?

2. Does that 100,000 troops number include contractors. If not, what is the real number of our forces there?

Just wondering...
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Postby chump » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:26 pm

Obama critique

When Obama spoke to the nation and an auditorium full of baby faced uniformed cadets at West Point last night to announce that he is sending 30,000 more Americans to Afghanistan, I really didn't want to watch. We already knew what he was going to say. The TV news had been marinating us for at least 24 hours ahead of time. He said that the US was going to send more troops within the first five minutes, but my wife insisted that we leave the TV on as the proud Obama blustered on and on about the reasons why.

Our son was also in the room. I made a comment as to how young Obama looked and how he reminded me of a high school debator as he reeled off a half a dozen reasons as to why the US MUST send more troops. Perhaps it reminded me of high school because it reminded me of Nixon saying the same kind of things on the TV 40 years ago. It reminded me of the debate team because, lets face it, you have to be able to argue for either side of whatever issue is being debated; like an attorney who doesn't always morally agree with his clients position but is obliged to defend the retrobate to the best of his abilities anyway!

"Really Dad!", my son retorted somewhat indignantly, "You're comparing him, pointing to Obama on the TV screen, to a high schooler? Listen to him. I don't know any high schoolers that can talk like that!".

"Well", I said, "He's definitely a master debator. But you might as well turn it off. He's going to lists a bunch of bullshit points as to why WE, always WE, MUST send more troops." Then I respectfully shut up and let them watch. But I was thinking.

Suppose that your on the debate team, it would be easy to get up there in front of the class and argue the reasons why we should NOT sent more troops to Afghanistan. But to get up there on national TV and try to convince the nation that we should... Well, that's a tough an assignment! Maybe too tough. You know: Like arguing that the Earth is flat! Obama was pulling crap out of his ass to support an argument that everybody knows is full of crap! Everybody! Yet, the media pundits spin it all up; because it ain't a joke, a bunch of kids get to go to over there and learn the hard way, again... It seems surreal.

This former high school debate team captain is the President of the United States. He is shovelling this pile to a class of cadets at West Point, and to the nation, and the world. I think we should give him at least as good a grade as Bush got when WE sent our troops into Bagdad. That was gonna cost $60B and the Iraqis were gonna shower the Americans with flowers and kisses like they did in Paris. In fact, I think you gotta hand to Obama. Not once did he crack a smile, or snicker, or smirk. George Bush would speak of grave issues with a smirk on his face that just emanated that beavis and Butthead chuckle of his, "Heh,heh,heh". Obama's tone and expression allows him to pull it off a little smoother.
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Postby elfismiles » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:29 pm

SanDiegoBuffGuy wrote:I have some questions about numbers here:

1. If this is supposedly a fight against "al-Qaeda", just how many people are identified as "members," "associates," "affiliates," or what have you? How many of these are in Afghanistan? What's the ratio of US troops to al-qaeda there? Do we have 3 troops for each "terrorist"?

2. Does that 100,000 troops number include contractors. If not, what is the real number of our forces there?

Just wondering...


Most critics are saying there are about 100 al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.

So, 100 thousand troops vs 100 men.
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Postby American Dream » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:46 pm

Here is a new article that I think has a good critique of the war plans:

Afghanistan: the Roach Motel of Empires

Zoltan Grossman
Counterpunch, Dec. 2, 2009

http://www.counterpunch.org/grossman12022009.html


In just a few months, Afghanistan will surpass Vietnam as the longest single war fought by the United States in its history. In his West Point speech, President Obama denied that “Afghanistan is another Vietnam”--and in some senses he is correct. Vietnam in 1975 was a far more unified state--ethnically and politically--than Afghanistan ever has been. Afghanistan is far more mountainous and difficult to occupy, and is bounded by more artificially colonial borders than either Vietnam or Iraq.

But what Afghanistan has in common with both Vietnam and Iraq is its long history of resistance to foreign occupation—whether by Chinese, Japanese and French in Vietnam, the Turks and British in Iraq, or the British and Russians in Afghanistan--before the Americans ever arrived. This proud history is the main factor that has united Afghanistan’s diverse ethnic and sectarian groups in the past two centuries.

Afghanistan is the “roach motel”of empires. They check in, but they don’t check out. They get lured into battle, and then get bogged down in a quagmire they cannot win. British soldiers barely escaped with their lives from three colonial wars in Afghanistan, before their global empire finally collapsed.

The Russians withdrew in defeat only a few years before the Soviet Union and its Afghan allies collapsed. In 1979, President Carter’s National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski had consciously lured the Soviets into invading Afghanistan by arming Islamist mujahedin fighting a pro-Soviet revolutionary government. The mujahedin (aided at the same time by Osama Bin Laden) defeated the Soviet superpower after only ten years.

Retaliation was a Trap

Bin Laden learned from this experience when he turned against the Americans in the 1990s, according to the British reporter Robert Fisk (who interviewed him in Afghanistan). By attacking U.S. embassies and eventually American cities, Bin Laden felt he could provoke another superpower to retaliate by occupying Afghanistan, and getting bogged down in the same futile war that the Soviets had lost. A few days before 9/11, Al Qaeda assassinated the only mujahedin leader who had unified the Northern Alliance, so the U.S. invaders would not be able to find a strong puppet ruler.

Two days after 9/11, Fisk published an article warning that “Retaliation is a Trap,” but few Americans listened to his prediction. After the U.S. quickly drove the Taliban from Kabul with a high-tech war, it seemed that his prediction was even ludicrous. Now, Fisk looks downright prophetic, as the Americans are blindly following the path toward eventual stalemate and defeat.

So far the Americans are following the same script as the Soviets in Afghanistan. They believe that control over Kabul is control over the country, even though the insurgents run most of the countryside. They believe that aerial strikes by jets and drones (like the Soviets’ HIND helicopters) would defeat the insurgents, when the bombing only alienated more civilians. They believed that torture would help to crack the insurgency, when it only legitimized Afghans’ hatred of foreign rule. They believed that driving insurgents into Pakistan counted as victory, only to have created a border safe haven for the insurgency. They were also manipulated by tribal leaders to attack their rivals, driving the (previously neutral) rivals into the hands of the insurgency.

Every U.S. mission in Afghanistan and Pakistan functions as a Taliban Recruitment Mission. More Americans are opposing the occupation not because they sympathize with the Taliban, but precisely the opposite. The longer we mess around in a complex ethnic and tribal environment we do not understand, the more likely it is that the Taliban will take full power--at least in the southern and eastern provinces.

Double Standards

Like the Soviets, the Americans are perfectly capable of denouncing human rights violations by their Islamist enemies, but completely ignoring abuses by the violent warlords they are supporting. President Karzai in Kabul and the warlords in the provinces are part of the problem, not the solution. The Islamization of Afghanistan did not begin when the Taliban took power in 1996, but when the U.S.-backed mujahedin ousted the pro-Soviet government four years earlier.

During those four years, the U.S.-backed mujahdin warlords destroyed Kabul in a civil war, required women to wear the burqa, and institutionalized rape in warfare. The Taliban only perfected and deepened these mysogynist policies in their five years of power, until the same U.S.-backed warlords returned to power as the Northern Alliance in November 2001. (My article at the time predicted that the war “ain’t over ‘till it’s over”-- also a no-brainer eight years later: http://www.counterpunch.org/grossman1.html )

We are arming and financing the same vicious men who brought fundamentalism to Kabul in the first place. By backing the mujahedin against the Soviets in the 1980s, we helped set into motion a cycle of violence that has since claimed more than two million Afghan lives, and helped to create Al Qaeda. By supporting the warlords against the Taliban today, what new monsters are we creating, and will they also eventually turn on us?

Like the Soviets, the Americans do not understand that the insurgency is driven not only by Islamist fundamentalism, but also by ethnic nationalism. In the case of the Taliban, they are representing the grievances of the Pashtuns who have seen the artificial colonial “Durand Line” divide their homeland between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The best way to defuse the Taliban is to recognize the legitimacy of this historical grievance, and incorporate Pashtun civil society into both governments.

A Partition Strategy?

But instead of unifying the different ethnic regions of Afghanistan, the NATO occupation seems headed more toward a de facto partition of these regions. The foreign policy team that President Obama has assembled includes some of the same figures who advocated the ethnic-sectarian partition of Yugoslavia and Iraq. Obama’s Special Envoy to Af-Pak, Richard Holbrooke, authored the agreement that partioned Bosnia into Serb and Muslim-Croat republics in 1995, in effect rubberstamping the ethnic cleansing that had forcibly removed populations during a three-year civil war. He also turned a blind eye when Serb civilians were expelled from Croatia the same year, and from Kosovo in 1999.

Vice President Biden has advocated the sectarian partition of Iraq into Shia, Sunni and Kurdish enclaves, which has largely been accomplished through violent removals and the construction of walls between Baghdad neighborhoods. Both Holbrooke and Biden used the argument of “humanitarian intervention” to oppose ethnic cleansing by their enemies, while at the same time turning a blind eye when their allies would do the same. (Holbrooke would similarly use the argument of drug-running against the Taliban, but suddenly downplay the argument after U.S. allies--such as Northern Alliance warlords and Karzai’s family--were exposed as knee-deep in narcotics.)

Some trends in Afghanistan show traces of a similar partition strategy. President Karzai recently instituted a series of laws on women in Shia communities, causing an outcry from women’s rights groups. Hardly unnoticed was his application of different legal standards to different sectarian territories—a sign of de facto (informal) partition. Various “peace” proposals have advocated ceding control of some Pashtun provinces to the Taliban. Far from bringing peace, such an ethnic-sectarian partition would exacerbate the violent “cleansing” of mixed territories to drive out those civilians who are not of the dominant group—the process that brought the “peace of the graveyard” to Bosnia, Kosovo, and much of Iraq.

Military bases and “Afghanization”

In both former Yugoslavia and Iraq, the U.S. interventions have left behind large permanent military bases, just as they have in Afghanistan. According to GlobalSecurity.org, at least 36 Forward Operating Bases and 31 military camps are operated by the U.S. and its allies in Afghanistan. Many of the largest air bases, at Kabul, Bagram, Kandahar, Shinand and Jalalabad, were the same bases from which the Soviets launched air attacks on the mujahedin in the 1980s. These military bases are the epitome of the roach motel—they become a self-fulfilling argument for continuing an occupation: to defend the bases.

Whether or not Obama gradually withdraws combat forces, he has said nothing about withdrawing from these sprawling bases, which are only being expanded for the upcoming surge, and hardened for a longer-term occupation. Even after a so-called “withdrawal,” the Pentagon could engineer a Philippine-style Visiting Forces Agreement to guarantee U.S. access to Iraqi and Afghani bases. The bases are not being built to wage the wars; the wars are being waged to leave behind a string of new, permanent bases that would forever serve as garrisons (and targets) in this strategic region.

The Pentagon also plans to leave behind Afghan and Iraqi proxy forces that would “take up the fight,” much as it tried to do through Vietnamization in 1973-75, and Moscow tried to do--just as unsuccessfully--in Afghanistan in 1989-92. But it doesn’t matter whether the troops are American or foreign—if they are backing a corrupt regime that came to power through fraudulent elections or repression of democratic movements, “Iraqization” and “Afghanization” are doomed to failure.

Propping up the regimes in Baghdad and Kabul will only highlight their indebtedness to foreign masters, and help legitimize the Islamist insurgencies, rather than weaken them. Islamist fundamentalism and foreign occupation are two sides of the same coin. They reinforce each other, feed off of each other, and need each other. But two wrongs don’t make a right.

We should get out of Afghanistan and allows Afghanis to form a National Unity Government—not simply of the northern mujahedin warlords and the Pashtun Taliban (the men with the guns), but of all Afghan ethnic groups and civil society--including the women, youth and elders.

If Obama really means it when he claims “We will not claim another nation's resources," then he should renounce any future Caspian Basin gas pipelines through Afghanistan and Pakistan. If Obama really means it when he says "We have not sought world domination,” he should plan a real exit strategy from the Afghan military bases--starting with the torture center at Bagram--and help Afghans disarm the warlord militias that we helped to create. If he claims that “We do not seek to occupy other nations,” the best way to prove it is simply by not occupying other nations.



Dr. Zoltan Grossman is a geographer teaching at The Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington, and a longtime antiwar movement organizer. He is a civilian board member of G.I. Voice, which runs a G.I. coffeehouse next to Fort Lewis. His writings and presentations are on his faculty website at http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz and his history of U.S. military interventions is at http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossma ... tions.html
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Postby Jeff » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:28 pm

Dec 3, 2009
Vietnam-lite is unveiled
By Pepe Escobar

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The much-hyped Obama speech on Tuesday night at West Point - edited by the president himself up to the last minute - was a clever rehash of the white man's burden, sketching a progressive narrative for US national security clad in the glorious robes of "the noble struggle for freedom"

On a more pedestrian level, history does repeat itself - as farce. With Obama's surge-lite, US plus North Atlantic Treaty Organization occupation troops in Afghanistan will reach in the first half of 2010 the level of the Soviet occupation at its peak in the first half of the 1980s. And all this formidable firepower to fight no more than 25,000 Afghan Taliban - with only 3,000 fully weaponized.

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Obama still says Afghanistan is a "war of necessity" - because of the September 11, 2001 attacks. Wrong. The Bush administration had planned to attack Afghanistan even before 9/11. See Get Osama! Now! Or else ... Asia Times Online, August 30, 2001.)

"War of necessity" is a polite remix of the same old neo-conservative "war on terror"; blame it on the "towelheads" and exploit public ignorance and fear. That's how al-Qaeda was equated with the Taliban and how Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11, according to the neo-con gang.

For all his lofty rhetoric, Obama is still pulling a Bush, not making any distinction between al-Qaeda - an Arab jihadi outfit whose objective is a global caliphate - and the Taliban - indigenous Afghans who want an Islamic emirate in Afghanistan but would have no qualms in doing business with the US, as they did during the Bill Clinton years when the US badly wanted to build a trans-Afghan gas pipeline. On top of it, Obama cannot admit that the "Pak" neo-Taliban now exist because of the US occupation of "Af".

Taking pains to distance his new policy from the Vietnam trauma, Obama stressed, "Unlike Vietnam, the American people were viciously attacked from Afghanistan." Wrong. If the official narrative of 9/11 holds, the hijackers were trained in Western Europe and perfected their skills in the US.

And even while he still emphasizes the drive to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat" al-Qaeda and deny it a "safe haven", Obama is fully contradicting his own national security advisor, General James Jones, who has admitted that there are fewer than 100 al-Qaeda jihadis in Afghanistan.

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So why is the US still in Afghanistan? Facing the camera, as if addressing "the Afghan people", the president said, "we have no interest in occupying your country". But he could not possibly tell it like it really is to American prime-time TV viewers.

For corporate America, Afghanistan means nothing; it's the fifth-poorest country in the world, tribal and definitely not a consumer society. But for US Big Oil and the Pentagon, Afghanistan has a lot of mojo.

For Big Oil, the holy grail is access to Turkmenistan natural gas from the Caspian Sea - Pipelineistan at the heart of the new great game in Eurasia, avoiding both Russia and Iran. But there's no way to build the hugely strategic TAPI (Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India) pipeline - crossing Helmand province, and then Pakistan's Balochistan province - with Afghanistan mired in chaos, thanks to the pitiful performance of the US/NATO occupation.

There's a hand in surveying/controlling the $4 billion-a-year drug trade, directly and indirectly. Since the beginning of the US/NATO occupation, Afghanistan became a de facto narco-state, producing 92% of the world's heroin under a bunch of transnational narco-terrorist cartels.

And there's the full spectrum dominance Pentagon agenda - Afghanistan as part of the worldwide US empire of bases, monitoring strategic competitors China and Russia at their doorstep.

Obama simply ignored that there is an ultra-high-stakes new great game in Eurasia going on. So because of all that Obama did not say at West Point, Americans are being sold a "war of necessity" draining a trillion dollars that could be used to reduce unemployment and really help the US economy.

The Taliban will inevitably come up with their own, finely tuned, counter-surge. Even surge-less, and up against tons of Petraeus' counter-insurgency schemes, they recently captured Nuristan province. And remember Obama's summer surge in Helmand province? Well, Helmand is still the opium capital of the world.

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http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KL03Df04.html
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Postby IanEye » Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:00 pm

Pepe Escobar wrote:For all his lofty rhetoric, Obama is still pulling a Bush, not making any distinction between al-Qaeda - an Arab jihadi outfit whose objective is a global caliphate - and the Taliban - indigenous Afghans who want an Islamic emirate in Afghanistan but would have no qualms in doing business with the US, as they did during the Bill Clinton years when the US badly wanted to build a trans-Afghan gas pipeline.
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For Big Oil, the holy grail is access to Turkmenistan natural gas from the Caspian Sea - Pipelineistan at the heart of the new great game in Eurasia, avoiding both Russia and Iran. But there's no way to build the hugely strategic TAPI (Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India) pipeline - crossing Helmand province, and then Pakistan's Balochistan province - with Afghanistan mired in chaos, thanks to the pitiful performance of the US/NATO occupation.

There's a hand in surveying/controlling the $4 billion-a-year drug trade, directly and indirectly. Since the beginning of the US/NATO occupation, Afghanistan became a de facto narco-state, producing 92% of the world's heroin under a bunch of transnational narco-terrorist cartels.


I wonder if any of the people who controlled the 'Golden Triangle' of heroin in the 60's/70's also control the heroin production in Afghanistan? If so, are they open to the idea of 'rotating' their crop once more to another part of the globe?

Because if that is part of the plan, then Obama can credit the military with the eradication of the poppy fields, declare victory (because drugs finance terrorism) and pull the troops (but not the contractors) out.
If Mr. Escobar is correct that the Taliban have 'no qualms in doing business with the US', then they can help maintain order while the pipelines are built in exchange for a hefty percentage of oil profits to build their 'sharia law paradise'
Hell, some of the strategic bombing going on right now might make building a pipeline easier.

It could really be a 'win-win' for any number of power structures.
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