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No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue May 25, 2010 6:38 pm

Hallalujah, the Whole World is Against Us!

Chomsky at the Gate

By URI AVNERY

A LOCAL TV station told us this week about a group of Israelis who adhere to conspiracy theories.

They believe that George W. Bush planned the destruction of the Twin Towers in order to further his wicked aims. They believe that the big pharmaceutical corporations spread the swine flue virus in order to sell their worthless vaccines. They believe that Barack Obama is a secret agent of the military-industrial complex. They believe that fluoride is put into drinking water to sterilize men, in order to reduce mankind by exactly two billion. And so on.

I wonder that they have not yet uncovered the most nefarious conspiracy of all: the one perpetrated by the gang of anti-Semites who have taken control of the government of Israel and are using it to destroy the Jewish State.

* * *

PROOF? NOTHING easier. One has only to read the papers.

The Foreign Minister, for example. Who but a diabolic anti-Semite could have appointed Avigdor Lieberman, of all people, to this post? The job of a foreign minister is to make friends and convince world opinion that we are right. Lieberman is working hard and skillfully to get Israel hated by one and all.

Or the Minister of the Interior. He works from morning to night to shock human rights defenders and supply ammunition to the worst enemies of Israel. Recently, he prevented two babies from entering Israel because their father is gay. He prevents women from joining their husbands in Israel. He deports children of foreign workers, who are building the state.

Or the Chief of Staff. He persuaded the government to boycott the UN commission for the investigation of the “Cast Lead” operation, thus abandoning the field to the accusers of the IDF. And since the publication of its report, he has been orchestrating a worldwide defamation campaign against the Jewish Zionist judge, Richard Goldstone.

Now the IDF has announced its determination to block the flotilla that plans to bring symbolic supplies to the besieged Gaza Strip. That will ensure live TV coverage, with the whole world following the small ships and having their attention drawn to the vicious blockade imposed for years upon a million and a half human beings. The dream of every Israel-hater.

The conspiracy reached its climax this week, when Professor Noam Chomsky was denied entry into the West Bank.

* * *

THIS AFFAIR has no credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

In the beginning I thought that it was just the usual mixture of ignorance and folly. But I have come to the conclusion that it can’t be so. Even in our present government, stupidity cannot have reached such proportions.

Briefly, this is what happened: the 81-year old professor arrived at the Allenby Bridge over the Jordan River on his way from Amman to Birzeit University near Ramallah, where he was to deliver two lectures about US policy. The Israeli authorities of course knew well in advance about his coming. A young official asked him some questions, contacted his superiors at the Interior Ministry, returned to ask some more questions, contacted his superiors again, and then stamped his passport with the words: “Entry Denied”.

And what were the questions? Why he does not lecture at an Israeli university. And why he has no Israeli passport.

The professor returned to Amman and delivered his lectures by video link. The incident was widely publicized all over the world, especially in the US. The Interior Ministry apologized half-heartedly, stating that the matter was not under its jurisdiction, that it was the responsibility of the military Coordinator for the (Occupied) Territories.

That is, of course, a mendacious excuse, since the ministry itself has recently denied entry to several personalities who profess sympathy with the Palestinians, including the most popular clown in Spain.

* * *

A PERSONAL memory of mine: a dozen years ago I took part in a heated public debate in London with Edward Said, the late Palestinian professor. He happened to mention that his friend, Noam Chomsky, was about to deliver a lecture at a local university.

I hastened there and saw the building surrounded by a dense crowd of young men and women. With great difficulty I pushed my way to the stairs which led up to the lecture hall, but was stopped by the ushers. I pleaded in vain that I was a friend of the lecturer and that I had come all the way from Israel just to hear him. They told me that even a needle could not be squeezed in. Such was his popularity even then.

Noam Chomsky is, perhaps, the most in-demand intellectual on earth. His reputation goes way beyond his academic specialty – linguistics – where he is considered a genius. He is the guru of millions around the planet. The world media treat him as a cerebral celebrity.

If so, what could have induced the Ministers of the Interior and/or Defense to hold this man for four hours and then send him back where he came from? Abysmal folly? Malice? Vengefulness? All of these? Or perhaps something else?

* * *

THIS AFFAIR has many wide-ranging implications.

First of all: it is a provocation against the Palestinian Authority, with whom Binyamin Netanyahu wants to have direct peace negotiations – or so he says. It’s like spitting in their face.

Chomsky arrived as a guest of Mustafa Barghouti, a Palestinian leader who espouses non-violence and human rights. He came to give lectures at a Palestinian university.

How does that concern Israel? What Chutzpa is it to prevent Palestinian students from hearing a lecturer of their choosing?

And what does it tell us about Netanyahu’s perorations about “Two States for Two Peoples”? What kind of a Palestinian state is this supposed to be, if Israel can decide who is allowed to enter, and who not? Especially in light of the Israeli demand to control all the border crossing of the new state!

* * *

SECOND, ALL over the world a campaign is in full swing to boycott all Israeli universities. Not only the self-styled “University Institute” at the Ariel settlement, and not only Bar-Ilan University, which helped to set it up. All of them.

Several associations of academics in the UK and other countries have adopted resolutions to impose this boycott, and other groups oppose it. It is an ongoing battle.

The opponents of the boycott raise the flag of academic freedom. Where shall we be if we boycott researchers and thinkers because of their country of residence or opinions? The Italian writer Umberto Eco has written his colleagues an emotional letter against the boycott. I, too, oppose it.

And here comes the government of Israel and pulls the rug out from under our feet. No one suggests that Chomsky supports terrorism or is coming to spy. His entry was denied solely because of his views. This means that academic freedom is good only if it serves those who praise Israel, but is worth no more than a garlic’s skin (as we say in Hebrew) when it is used by somebody who objects to the policies of the Israeli government.

That is a direct help for the boycotteers. The more so since not a single Israel university or group of academics has raised its voice in protest.

* * *

THE ASSERTION that Chomsky is an enemy of Israel is ludicrous.

He bears an eminently Hebrew first name, and so does his daughter, Aviva, who accompanied him.

I met him for the first time in the 60s, when I visited him in his cramped quarters at MIT, one of the most respected academic institutions in the US and the world.

He spoke with some nostalgia about the kibbutz (Hazorea, of the leftist Zionist Hashomer Hatzair movement), where he had lived for a year in his youth. We exchanged opinions and agreed that the two-state idea was the only practical solution.

His first name was given to him by his parents, who were born in the Russian empire and emigrated to the US in their youth. The mother tongue of both was Yiddish, but they devoted their home to Hebrew culture, and Noam spoke Hebrew from early childhood. In the mental world of his youth, socialism and anarchism were mixed with Zionism. His doctoral thesis was about the Hebrew language.

I have been following his statements ever since. I never found any opposition to the existence of Israel. What I did find was sharp criticism of the Israeli government’s policies – the same criticism levied by the Israeli peace forces. But he is far more critical of the successive US administrations, whose policies he considers to be the mother of all evils.

When the two professors, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, published their revolutionary exposé supporting the claim that Israel controls US policy through the Israel lobby, Chomsky contradicted them and argued that the reverse was true: that it is the US which exploits Israel for its imperialist designs, contrary to real Israeli interests.

As for myself, I believe that both theses are right. Chomsky’s assertion may be illustrated by the present American veto on a Fatah-Hamas reconciliation, as well as the American intervention that prevents the Gilad Shalit prisoners’ swap.

So why, for God’s sake, was this man denied entry into the country?

* * *

I HAVE a theory which would explain everything.

For many centuries, the Jews were persecuted in Christian Europe. Anti-Semitism turned their life into hell. They fell victim to pogroms, mass expulsions, confinement in ghettos, oppressive edicts and discriminatory laws. In the course of time, they developed mental and practical defense mechanisms, methods of survival and routes of escape.

Since the Holocaust, the situation has changed radically. In the US the Jews now live in a paradise unparalleled since the Golden Age in Muslim Spain. When the State of Israel came into being, it attracted world-wide admiration and sympathy.

That was wonderful, but below the surface of the national consciousness – if one may generalize - a sense of unease, of disorientation, set in. The tried and trusted defense mechanisms, which had given the Jews a feeling of orientation and awareness of lurking dangers, disintegrated. They felt that something was out of order, that the well-known road signs were not working anymore. When the Gentiles laud the Jews or are ready to make alliances with them, that is suspicious. Clearly, something sinister must be behind it. Things are not as we knew them. That’s frightening.

Since then, we have been working feverishly to bring the situation back to normal. Without being conscious of it, we do what we can to be hated again, to feel at home, on familiar ground.

If there is a conspiracy, it is a conspiracy of ourselves against ourselves. We shall not rest until the world is anti-Semitic again, and we know how to behave.

As the jolly song goes: “The entire world is against us, but what the hell … ”

Uri Avnery is an Israeli writer and peace activist with Gush Shalom. He is a contributor to CounterPunch's book The Politics of Anti-Semitism.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby 17breezes » Tue May 25, 2010 7:10 pm

Chomsky recently cozied up with Nasrallah and the Hezbollah gang at their jihad camp and museum.

Evidently he loves them terrorists. Remind you of your buddy, Pol Pot, Noah?

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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby 82_28 » Tue May 25, 2010 7:17 pm

17breezes wrote:Chomsky recently cozied up with Nasralluh and the Hezbollah gang at their jihad camp and museum.
Evidently he loves them terrorists. How's your buddy Pol Pot Noah?


DOOOD! Seriously?!?!? Here of all places? C'mon. Chomsky is no motherfucking "terrorist" sympathizer. You need to quit your motherfucking racism now.

All humans deserve love. Not all humans are bad. Blah blah blah. Doood, you know this. You knew it already. That's why you posted the inflammatory comment such as you did. All children at birth are innocent. You know this too. Man, I just don't know about anything anymore. You know the drill about how powerful governments and their interests affect change via the use of racism and propaganda. You know this. You also know you are posting on RI -- thus you know that comment ain't gonna fly. Man oh man. What a fucking mess.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue May 25, 2010 7:26 pm

It's surely wise to archive The Powerworshipping Analinguist's latest profound and subtle contribution to this board, before he takes fright again and deletes it double-quick:

17breezes wrote:Chomsky recently cozied up with Nasralluh and the Hezbollah gang at their jihad camp and museum.Evidently he loves them terrorists. How's your buddy Pol Pot Noah?


Hmmm. Noam Chomsky loves terrorists and was Pol Pot's pal... Food for thought, that.

It's worth debating. And here in the Big Tent, we have all the time in the world. (Roll up, roll up.)
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby JackRiddler » Tue May 25, 2010 7:32 pm

17breezes wrote:Chomsky recently cozied up with Nasrallah and the Hezbollah gang at their jihad camp and museum.

Evidently he loves them terrorists. Remind you of your buddy, Pol Pot, Noah?


I see pretend time is over and you're finally letting your inner Kahane out. What's next - "There are no Palestinians"?
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby JackRiddler » Tue May 25, 2010 7:39 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:It's surely wise to archive The Powerworshipping Analinguist's latest profound and subtle contribution to this board, before he takes fright again and deletes it double-quick:

17breezes wrote:Chomsky recently cozied up with Nasralluh and the Hezbollah gang at their jihad camp and museum.Evidently he loves them terrorists. How's your buddy Pol Pot Noah?


Hmmm. Noam Chomsky loves terrorists and was Pol Pot's pal... Food for thought, that.

It's worth debating. And here in the Big Tent, we have all the time in the world. (Roll up, roll up.)


And my friend, why don't you just ignore him? I don't mean "put him on ignore," I mean just ignore. Here and again I'll see occasion to say something I find funny - as I just did - or use some silly thing he said as a springboard for a little essay I felt like writing anyway. In that case, he's useful for reminding us of just how stupid it can get "out there." But otherwise? His little two-liners aren't worth more time than you might inadvertantly spend reading them as you scan past to more interesting material (hi there! pleased to be of service!).
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue May 25, 2010 7:44 pm

JackRiddler wrote:And my friend, why don't you just ignore him?


Because, Jack (my friend, sincerely): Just ignoring things is a dependable method of ensuring that everything turns to crap.

I don't know if there is a more obvious truth in the world.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby 17breezes » Tue May 25, 2010 7:51 pm

82_28 wrote:
17breezes wrote:Chomsky recently cozied up with Nasralluh and the Hezbollah gang at their jihad camp and museum.
Evidently he loves them terrorists. How's your buddy Pol Pot Noah?


DOOOD! Seriously?!?!? Here of all places? C'mon. Chomsky is no motherfucking "terrorist" sympathizer. You need to quit your motherfucking racism now.

All humans deserve love. Not all humans are bad. Blah blah blah. Doood, you know this. You knew it already. That's why you posted the inflammatory comment such as you did. All children at birth are innocent. You know this too. Man, I just don't know about anything anymore. You know the drill about how powerful governments and their interests affect change via the use of racism and propaganda. You know this. You also know you are posting on RI -- thus you know that comment ain't gonna fly. Man oh man. What a fucking mess.


He either likes terrorists or he doesn't. The evidence is clear. He is there; they are there. He doesn't bad mouth them but he does do so to Israel. This is not rocket science, man.

So what's your position on Hezbollah? Just a bunch of poor misunderstood murdering bastards? And what, because I'm posting on RI I gotta love the guys who got half of Lebanon destroyed and later killed their fellow citizens because they wanted control of the airport? I don't see how anyone can rehabilitate that lot.

Maybe Jack and the Anal fixated Mac can. Not me.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby 17breezes » Tue May 25, 2010 7:53 pm

JackRiddler wrote:
17breezes wrote:Chomsky recently cozied up with Nasrallah and the Hezbollah gang at their jihad camp and museum.

Evidently he loves them terrorists. Remind you of your buddy, Pol Pot, Noah?


I see pretend time is over and you're finally letting your inner Kahane out. What's next - "There are no Palestinians"?


Don't be a horse's arse, Jack. Nice to see you can wallow with the best. So what's next for you? "We are all Hezbollah now!" Is that the game you wanna play? :roll:
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue May 25, 2010 8:05 pm

17breezes wrote:the Anal fixated Mac


Ah-ah, you obnoxious orthographically-challenged protofascist trill. It's you who are attached by the tongue to every powerful anus in sight. You turned up here just when you turned up at DU, you slander Nafeez Ahmed, you slander Noam Chomsky, you never defend anything you say, you brown-nose the mods assiduously, you think Shimon Peres's (and George Bush's!) word is law, you never talk anything but shit, and you never take more than two lines to do so.

I know your little game, matey. You are paid by the post.

Now go whingeing, and don't forget to do that thing with your unusually prehensile tongue. Bien profond.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby Jeff » Tue May 25, 2010 8:43 pm

17breezes, holding a contrary position is one thing, but you're being the other on this thread. If you care about your argument, you ought to be less argumentative.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby smiths » Tue May 25, 2010 9:02 pm

ummm, maybe a new approach is required

17breezes i really dig your comments, well reasoned, intellectually coherent

its a great contribution you make and i am glad to hear more of your thoughts
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby 17breezes » Tue May 25, 2010 9:32 pm

Jeff wrote:17breezes, holding a contrary position is one thing, but you're being the other on this thread. If you care about your argument, you ought to be less argumentative.



Well to my credit, I think, I haven't accused anyone of being stupid or of licking asses (you know, those really cogent argument styles,) so I kinda figure I'm ahead of the curve there.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby Nordic » Tue May 25, 2010 10:24 pm

Getting back to the OP, I'd say it's a very interesting point of view and actually makes sense.

It makes me think of the whole "you create your own reality" notion.

In this case, if the particular Israelis in question see an anti-semite behind every bush, well, by their actions they are guaranteeing that the world will begin to hate them anew.

If I started slaughtering my neighbors on this street here in lovely west Los Angeles, people would hate me as well. Of course in my case I would be immediately locked up for the rest of my life and perhaps put to death.

But not they, no, because they're so special.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby 82_28 » Tue May 25, 2010 10:58 pm

But see 17breezes, it doesn't pass the smell test -- Chomsky LITERALLY consorting around with "terrorists"? The dude works at MIT and is prominent. As Uri Avnery said in the OP, it's ludicrous. Perhaps at the age of 81 he's become senile. Could be. But I will offer my theory -- he is neither shill or a hater of Israelis. He is neither a shill or a hater for the Palestinian "cause". He is vehemently, as is Avnery, very pro human rights, no matter who the human. There are shit heads in all walks of life. Chomsky is not one of them and I can guarantee you, guarantee, that Chomsky was not consorting with any kind of terrorists. Yet if so, so what? I want to know what he learned. It is well known the kind of left wing company he keeps and you know as well, 17 what forms much of our raison d'etre as being these so called "leftists" is not to hate Israel or Jews at all -- but to stand for human rights and such when we see reason to. Being pro-human rights and having that fall under what I view as the sanctioned crimes of Israel has never made me anti-Israel or any more pro-Palestinian. It falls under kindness to others at all times and I view Chomsky in that same regard.
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