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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Jeff » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:55 pm

Has anyone explained how, if Sandusky left Penn State in 1999 (presumably under an unmentionable cloud), he was still apparently welcome to escort minors into the locker room and showers for years afterward?
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Re: The Pedophile File

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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Simulist » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:04 pm

Jeff wrote:Has anyone explained how, if Sandusky left Penn State in 1999 (presumably under an unmentionable cloud), he was still apparently welcome to escort minors into the locker room and showers for years afterward?

Unus pro omnibus, omnes pro uno.

Nests of pedophiles are tight-knit groups, presumably.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby bks » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:06 pm

Jeff wrote:Has anyone explained how, if Sandusky left Penn State in 1999 (presumably under an unmentionable cloud), he was still apparently welcome to escort minors into the locker room and showers for years afterward?


Part of the deal he "negotiated" before retiring. Included retaining an office on the campus, various sorts of access to open to emeritus coaches of the university and other goodies.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Project Willow » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:34 pm

As late as last year running sleepover camps on campus...

Jerry Sandusky, the longtime defensive coordinator for the Penn State Nittany Lions charged with sexually abusing young boys over a 15-year period, including four years when Sandusky still was a member of the staff, was running an overnight football camp for kids on Penn State campuses as recently as last year, according to Deadspin.

Sandusky ran the camp, called Sandusky's Football Camp, for nearly a decade, but by summer 2010, the camp stopped running because a grand jury had already begun its investigation into the sexual allegations.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby geogeo » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:04 pm

Spanier was at Nebraska-Lincoln, just saying. All of this, as I have realized today with horror (PSU alum and from area), is perfectly consistent with a pedophile ring--and that's consistent with the feudalistic nature of the 'modern' university, which sucks up public money but is accountable to almost no one. PSU has always been veiled in secrecy, and has always been associated with black budget stuff, CIA recruiting, and so forth. Don't forget about the Sunshine Project's attempt to shed light on the http://www.nldt.org/, for example.

Anyway, I'm having creepy flashbacks and trying to remember what was said in bars, years ago. We'll see what pops up. Please, though, realize that those thousands of fans are assholes, always have been, always will be. There's even rifts at PSU, and not everyone 'bleeds blue and white' or otherwise buys into the culture. PSU and its money have RUINED the environment and watershed of Happy Valley; Paterno is and has ALWAYS BEEN a corrupt son of a bitch, and many people know this. He is a lowlife. They have forced out farmers, speculated up land prices, been implicated in development schemes that have ruined our area's scenic beauty. They have built interstate highways and bypasses and stomped all over local activists, who subsist on the fringes.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Simulist » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:04 pm

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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby geogeo » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:23 pm

I think I was mostly coherent in my last post, though not totally. My point was that in an economically-depressed area, all of this greed and profligacy beget jobs--so everyone OUTSIDE Happy Valley, us mutant hillbilly 'townies' 'from Deliverance', depend desperately on the place. Yes, PSU is the ultimate job creator, creating the economy that everyone says is what this country needs.

I also wanted to point out that, at least in local culture, for many, the boy who has been victimized is as guilty, sometimes more so, than the grown-up. I doubt anything has changed from when I grew up and witnessed a boy who had been victimized; the story came out and the good townspeople in their righteous fury drove the predator out. But the boy was brutally beaten on nearly a daily basis, which I saw with my own eyes, and I seem to remember that no adult wanted to do anything about it. All quite ironic, because there had been some sort of a pedophile scandal in the town that was hushed up, some years before--involving the 1% of our town, as I remember. In any case, I suspect it will be quite difficult for many more victims to come out of their own accord in this scandal, until someone sets up a support network directly for 'white trash' 'trailer trash' 'working class' white victims from forgotten Pennsylvania hollows. Somehow, I just don't see the PSU alumni fundraiser to help the victims doing that.

In case I haven't made it clear, to me this is very much of a class issue as well--and this is typically un-analyzed in the media.

What I also think is that pedophilia is far more widespread across America than we pretend it to be. Just my own opinion.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby jingofever » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:24 pm

Simulist wrote:Police: No link between long-missing DA, Sandusky

Uh huh. Right. Sure.

Rickard, the police detective investigating Gricar's disappearance, said Gricar's refusal to prosecute Paxson dovetails with what he knows of the prosecutor.

"Ray was a hard-charger. If there was something there, I'm convinced he would have gone after that," he said, referring to the 1998 case and any other case Gricar refused to prosecute.

Rickard has gone through Gricar's personal effects, his desk drawers, his note-filled day planner and found nothing to suggest Gricar was still involved with—or otherwise concerned about—the Sandusky case by the time he disappeared.

"I can say that prior to Ray's disappearance, there was absolutely nothing going on with Ray Gricar and Jerry Sandusky," Rickard said.

Master detective Rickard seems to forget the hard drive that Gricar apparently meant to destroy. It is probable that any notes he might have made related to an investigation (if that investigation is linked to his disappearance) would have been destroyed as well. But anyway, I'm surprised Rickard hasn't cracked the case yet.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:27 pm

"To me it's just another sign of how much is covered up within Happy Valley."

Crittenden also thinks there is a lot more to the Sandusky story, which also features former Penn State football coach Joe Paterno, an assistant coach, and three former top Penn State officials.

"I think that this is a cover up of epic proportions," Crittenden said.

He says reporters always had trouble digging up sensitive information at Penn State, and he believes there's much more to this story.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Luther Blissett » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:34 pm

Just for posterity and continuity, and because it hasn't been brought up yet with regards to the Sandusky case, it's worth reiterating the stance that something about the way power corrupts leads to that penultimate actualization of fascism, pedophilia; or that something about those who are driven to hoard power are predisposed to become fascist pedophiles.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby justdrew » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:36 pm

Avalon wrote:Scapegoating gay men for the Penn State tragedy
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Some good responses in the comments, pointing out that Sandusky is a married man and a father. "Until you can show that he can sleep with adult men, you heterosexuals own him because at least we know he can sleep with women."


umm, the problem is he's not a bio-dad of any kids...

Sandusky is married and has six adopted children. He also took in foster children.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:40 pm

Ray Gricar - Missing DA

Hershey Childrens Home Sex Crimes Coverup, $3M Settlement Milton Hershey School PA


Conspiracy of Silence Continues in Pennsylvania. Repost, combined 1,2. Milton S Hershey Childrens' Home Trust Squandered. Misuses of $7 billion Hershey Trust as far back as 2007. Hershey Trust Co Purchase of Wren Dale Golf Club, Oct 9, 2010 http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index. ... vania_at...

HERSHEY TRUST BOARD PAY
- Board Chairman LeRoy S Zimmerman of Harrisburg, $155,000. Zimmerman also made $344,996 for serving on boards of Hershey Entertainment & Resorts Co + The Hershey Co
- James E. Nevels of Swarthmore, $112,500. Nevels also made $213,859 for serving on board of The Hershey Co
- Robert Cavanaugh of Los Angeles, $100,000. Cavanaugh also made $200,000 for serving on the board of The Hershey Co
- James Mead of Camp Hill, $125,000.
- Robert Reese of Hummelstown, $125,000.
- Velma A. Redmond of South Middleton Twp., $116,145.
- Raymond L. Gover of Lower Allen Twp., $99,500.
- Joseph M. Senser of Edina, Minn., $95,000.
- Barbara Barrett of Paradise Valley, Ariz., $95,000.
- James Sheehan of Carlisle, $95,000.


PROTECT THE HERSHEYS' CHILDREN, INC.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Luther Blissett » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:49 pm

seemslikeadream wrote:Ray Gricar - Missing DA

Hershey Childrens Home Sex Crimes Coverup, $3M Settlement Milton Hershey School PA



Jesus, what's the "other 1%" possibility of what happened to him? Kidnapped and held captive? That gave me chills.

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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:02 pm

The Chocolate Heist Part 1


About The Hershey Company http://www.thehersheycompany.com/about/directors.asp

Corbett Investigating Allies is Unethical http://casablancapa.blogspot.com/2010/1 ... cal-alli...

PA Attorney General Tom Corbett ignored complaints about misuses of $7 billion Hershey Trust as far back as 2007. The question is whether Corbett owes too much to his political allies including Hershey Trust chairman Leroy Zimmerman to investigate them fairly. Corbett has significant conflicts of interest w leadership of the Trust who sponsor fundraisers for his campaign in the millions. The Trust exists for one purpose - to provide a boarding school for as many needy kids as funds allow. However, they used their for profit subsidiary HERCO to serve their own purposes. The Inquirer pointed out that HERCO has paid less than 0.002 percent of their revenues to support the school in recent years, even though the school owns 100% of HERCO. HERCO controls the hotels, amusement park, campground, etc. http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index. ... _should_...

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State lawmakers reporting gifts travel numbers 49 / 253 May 05, 2009. World Series Tickets, Foreign Travel, Yacht Club Membership, + Golf Outings
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09125/967684-454.stm
More: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09125/96 ... z0wp3tuSYI and http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index. ... lators_r...

Hershey Med Center delays children's hospital, Dec 2008 http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index. ... nter_del...

Financial crisis affects Hershey Trust Co, Dec 2008 http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index. ... ffects_h...

Cops: Abuse of Milton Hershey students reported years before child molester was convicted http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index. ... on_hersh...
Sex-abuse case shatters Hershey School/Orphanage, May 20, 2010 http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20100 ... rshey_Sc...

Complaint ignored in Hershey pedophile case; Police, school officials didn't follow up on mother's sworn statement 05/31/2010, http://www.ydr.com/ci_15198326

Insider commentary on Hershey Sex Abuse Case http://208.112.103.179/forums/archive/i ... -1392.html
Full Thread at: http://208.112.103.179/forums/showthread.php?t=1392

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'The Chocolate Heist' by Ric Fouad A long time critic of the Hershey Trust + the Milton Hershey School / Orphanage, Ric is a former president of Milton Hershey Alumni Assoc and is current president of the childrens advocay group 'Protect the Hershey's Children'. This series is excerpts from his speech 'The Chocolate Heist' which outlines the shocking abuses of trust money and children for the benefit of the elite. He spoke as a visiting scholar at Harvard Law School.

"These children must grow up with a feeling that they have a real home" - Milton S. Hershey

Protect the Hershey's Children, Inc http://www.protecthersheychildren.org/index.html
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