Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

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Postby IanEye » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:14 am

FourthBase wrote:IanEye, you alright?



alright as can be fourth base, thanks for asking.

my main problem now is that i work inside of a giant dvr, which means all of this footage got recorded, and i will have to see it over and over again as i do my testing on 1080i footage, 720p footage, proxy lo-res footage, etc

but this is true of any number of atrocities stored away in the digital archives, sandy hook, oil leaks in the gulf, katrina, they all come spilling out from the past into my current day hard drive, looked over, then sent back. no great surprise that scenes from my local terrain will be added to the mix over time.

i will do what i always do, add a bed of music to the images in my mind to give it a sense of order & cohesion.

take care.

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it was a slow day
the sun was beating
on the soldiers by the side of the road


there was a bright light
a shattering of shop windows
the bomb in the baby carriage
was wired to the radio


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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby 82_28 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:22 am

FourthBase wrote:
82_28 wrote:
Shortly thereafter, the director of the JFK Library told the Dorchester Reporter, a local newspaper, that the damage onsite "was confined to a mechanical room near the archive section of the library" and the library's Twitter feed described the damage as a "fire":


Read Atlantic Monthly's take and updates here.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national ... ary/64259/


"near the archive section of the library"
"some archival material"

How near?
Which material?

A mere 10 minutes after the marathon attack. What are the odds?


Indeed:

Audiovisual

The audiovisual archives contain over 400,000 still photographs taken from 1863–1984, over 7.5 million feet (2.29×106 m) of film shot between 1910–83, and 11,000 reels of audio recordings from 1910–85.[46]
Oral-history project

Begun in 1964, the oral-history project was a unique undertaking to document and preserve interviews with those associated with Kennedy. Initially expected to have about 150 participants,[7] today it contains over 1,100 interviews and continues to this day.[47] It is modelled after a program by the Columbia University Oral History Research Office, the worlds oldest, which began in 1948.[6] At its conception, while serving as Attorney General, Robert Kennedy speculated that some of the interviews, such as ones relating to the Cuban missile crisis might have to be sealed for a while, due to containing "highly classified material." He said that although the emphasis would be on releasing everything as soon as possible, some items might remain closed for 10 to 25 years.[6]

Because the interviewees are allowed to review their transcripts before the interviews are released for use by scholars, the audio may differ from the written record; so that the interviewing may disambiguate any misunderstanding in their speech and make it clear in a written form.[47]
Artifacts

The library keeps a wide range of artifacts, many of which can be found in their respective exhibits. One is the original coconut on which a rescue message was inscribed by Kennedy to rescue the crew of the PT-109, and which was delivered by Biuku Gasa and Eroni Kumana, natives of the Solomon Islands.[48]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Ke ... and_Museum

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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby 82_28 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:34 am

Cryptogon has some anomalies to point out as well:

http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=34630
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby 8bitagent » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:00 am

I guess I can believe the library was a coincidence. I mean I woke up to this image on tv, Boston at about 6am
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I guess it was just a brushfire.

The theory of 'minimal casualties yet maximum publicity'(intentionally) is something I've heard before. But to me it's like, if someone/s crossed that rubicon to where they intend to hurt people
what's the difference between 5 or 5000? Also severely transforming disfiguration can often be like death. Quite a few people were permanently blinded by the twin African embassy bombings in 1998. All the people who lost limbs, blinded or severe injuries from shrapnel...I cant even imagine.

While to me the attack feels similar to 90's right winger attacks, it does bring to mine the IED or suicide vest type stuff in Israel, Afghanistan, etc. Particularly Israel, where one or two people would die and a bunch wounded but it was on a regular basis. Perhaps an aspect of the attack besides publicity, is simply to create a blank canvas for everyone to project their bias toward. IT WAS ISLAMISTS! NO, IT WAS RIGHT WINGERS! STUDENT LEFTISTS!
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:06 am

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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby brainpanhandler » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:12 am

8bitagent wrote:Is it wrong of me that I am now as annoyed by conspiracy theorists as I am the Sean Hannity "but it COULD be Muslims right" types?


No.

Seriously, there's always been a stupid chucklehead component to CT, but after the viral "sandy hook was FAKED" youtube videos (as well as putting up with the bullhorn truther brigades) OH and the "every rap and pop song
is a message from the Illuminati!" crap...I'm just thoroughly disgusted by a lot of these types.


Long time coming 8bit. But of course all that is a conspiracy to get you to dismiss all conspiracy theories.

Now try not to contradict yourself on this, at least not in the same thread.

There just isn't any substitute for assessing the veracity of a conspiracy theory on an individual case by case basis.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby justdrew » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:28 am

remarkable that there's no claim of responsibility. seems like it's not "traditional" terrorism.

perhaps FEAR ITSELF planted those bombs. :shrug:
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby Canadian_watcher » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:30 am

82_28 wrote:Cryptogon has some anomalies to point out as well:

http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=34630


The cryptogon piece mentions a big dip in precious metals being a sign of the next event.

the day before the bombing I was watching the metals prices drop off a cliff and I said to my SO "This is weird, right? There seems to be no reason for this whatsoever." We had been thinking of buying some, so lately I've been waiting for a low point. Ha. wow. In the days before, Bitcoin had done its amazing surge upward and then also popped. And from what I can observe stocks took a significant hit at the same time. I don't know much about any of this, and I have no idea what bonds or currencies did in the same time frame. I guess if they went up then at least I could make some sense out of it in terms of a 'where were people running to' thing. If they didn't, then it strikes me as a case of insider knowledge, because there seems to be no other event going on that would have triggered this - no more than 'usual' for the past 12 months, anyway.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby elfismiles » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:47 am

As a couple of you have said ... doesn't matter who "did it" ... the DHS / TSA / MIC all win.

RE: few casualties (hopefully) ... a video I watched this morning of a MSM news-show featuring a supposed bomb expert examining the footage suggested that the white powdery substance along the base of the building where one of the main blasts occurred was indicative (he speculated / and noted it was speculation) of unexploded explosive material ... in other words, the bomb or bombs there hadn't functioned properly and likely would have been significantly worse had they not (possibly) malfunctioned.

RE: CTers and FF ... meh, I've been balancing the science vs circus-tent of "UFOology" for a long time ... CTers have also always had to deal with the same kind "Carnival-Barker" sideshows. Big whoop. You can either build a wall around yourself or them, or put on your wetsuit / waders and just deal with it.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby justdrew » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:49 am

as to the gold thing... "prices are down" tells us little. I'd guess there are more sellers than buyers atm. Possibly some big gold owner is getting some cash together to make margin calls? but couldn't they just make the call by transferring the certificates of ownership directly? No idea why gold is doing what it's doing, I guess someone needs muny.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:52 am

This was all some of my coworkers could talk about yesterday morning, up until the Boston Marathon bombings:

Bomb Squad Investigates Suspicious Package at Newton Diner Lot
Police and firefighters closed the White Horse Pike on Monday morning as the Camden County Sheriff's bomb squad investigated.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby chump » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:55 am

Any over and unders?

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/04/ ... e-way.html

Terror Attack Kills 3 and Injures Dozens in Boston … Further Losses of Liberty and More War On The Way?
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby FourthBase » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:00 am

elfismiles wrote:As a couple of you have said ... doesn't matter who "did it" ... the DHS / TSA / MIC all win.

RE: few casualties (hopefully) ... a video I watched this morning of a MSM news-show featuring a supposed bomb expert examining the footage suggested that the white powdery substance along the base of the building where one of the main blasts occurred was indicative (he speculated / and noted it was speculation) of unexploded explosive material ... in other words, the bomb or bombs there hadn't functioned properly and likely would have been significantly worse had they not (possibly) malfunctioned.

RE: CTers and FF ... meh, I've been balancing the science vs circus-tent of "UFOology" for a long time ... CTers have also always had to deal with the same kind "Carnival-Barker" sideshows. Big whoop. You can either build a wall around yourself or them, or put on your wetsuit / waders and just deal with it.


I saw that same guy I think and he is totally full of shit or blind. That's clearly shattered glass. I think.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby barracuda » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:21 am

justdrew wrote:as to the gold thing... "prices are down" tells us little. I'd guess there are more sellers than buyers atm. Possibly some big gold owner is getting some cash together to make margin calls? but couldn't they just make the call by transferring the certificates of ownership directly? No idea why gold is doing what it's doing, I guess someone needs muny.


It's been dropping for months now. Cyprus was forced to hand off their reserves as part of the EU bailout deal, and then leveraged bets were unloaded to deal with margins. I think. It seemed extremely odd yesterday afternoon when news accounts were attempting to tie the bombings and the gold price fall in some correlation, but if you'd been watching the price daily, it was (retrospectively) a drop bound to happen. The tie-in was a convenient excuse, or at least felt like one.
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