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Re: David Bowie RIP

Postby identity » Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:33 pm

And so, in 2003, Bowie was offered a knighthood for having made “a major contribution to British life”. Again, he said no: “I would never have any intention of accepting anything like that. It’s not what I spent my life working for.”


Nice to see that at least one of these celebrities actually has/had some integrity!
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Re: David Bowie RIP

Postby brekin » Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:57 pm

Per your psychic request...

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Re: David Bowie RIP

Postby brekin » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:51 am

Best pre-tribute. Song starts at:
https://youtu.be/qqa4G0J2faE?t=1m39s

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Re: David Bowie RIP

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Re: David Bowie RIP

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:34 pm

Now that is a professional performer.

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Re: David Bowie RIP

Postby brekin » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:05 pm

Secret Sun has been doing a Bowie Series.
Knowles has got some interesting things to say about Bowie's interest/influences/derivings from the comic book world in the latest one.

Hazy Cosmic Jive: Bowie and the Starmen, Part Two
http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2017/02/h ... art_6.html
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"I always had a repulsive sort of need to be something more than human. I felt very very puny as a human. I thought. 'Fuck that. I want to be a Superman.'" -- David Bowie

In part one we looked at David Bowie's seminal creation Ziggy Stardust and the history behind it. Or at least the history as it's known.
We saw how Ziggy- and indeed, Glam itself- traced directly back to a short-lived project called The Hype, which featured Bowie and Spiders from Mars guitarist Mick Ronson, as well as Bowie producer Tony Visconti on bass.
The Hype's conceit was that they were superheroes-turned-rock stars, and each musician took on a separate identity.
Bowie appeared all in silver, going so far as to dye his hair silver. That's an important clue in parsing out the mysteries behind Ziggy and in many important ways, behind Bowie's later career and his esoteric ambitions as well.

We also saw how Bowie credited 50s rock star-turned-acid casualty Vince Taylor as inspiration for Ziggy, largely due to his rather LSD-typical messianic delusions. Bowie would embroider Taylor's story over different interviews, adding bits about UFOs and Atlantis, but never with much enthusiasm. So I think we can leave Taylor's influence at "rock star turned messiah turned burn-out."
But there are several missing pieces to the Ziggy puzzle, pieces which Bowie never bothered to fill in, preferring to maintain an air of mystery around his creation.
Or is it that he didn't quite want to own up to exactly where he was really was pilfering his ideas from in the self-serious 70s? He had an reputation to maintain, after all. Being a rock star was louche enough in the circles he longed to travel in.
So let's read Bowie's explanation of the Ziggy concept, relayed to William S. Burroughs in Rolling Stone, again:

Ziggy is advised in a dream by the Infinites to write the coming of a starman, so he writes "Starman," which is the first news of hope that the people have heard. So they latch onto it immediately. The starmen that he is talking about are called the Infinites, and they are black-hole jumpers.
Ziggy has been talking about this amazing spaceman who will be coming down to save the earth. They arrive somewhere in Greenwich Village. They don't have a care in the world and are of no possible use to us. They just happened to stumble into our universe by black-hole jumping. Their whole life is traveling from universe to universe.
Now Ziggy starts to believe in all this himself and thinks himself a prophet of the future starman. He takes himself up to incredible spiritual heights and is kept alive by his disciples. When the infinites arrive, they take bits of Ziggy to make themselves real because in their original state they are anti-matter and cannot exist on our world.
What does that all sound like to you? I'll tell you what it sounds like to me: a Silver Age Marvel Comic ("the Infinites?"). It sounds one hell of a lot like a Silver Age Marvel Comic. Oh, like something written by Roy Thomas, say.

Like a Marvel Comic about an extraterrestrial savior who travels through an anti-matter dimension and merges with an aspiring folk-rocker in order to save the world from destruction, granting that singer amazing alien powers in the bargain.
But do such comics actually exist? And did they exist prior to the creation of Ziggy Stardust?
Oh yes, they did indeed.
And one of them depicted a starman (as identified by the giant star on his chest) literally waiting in the sky…
A brief bit of background. Well, as brief as I can make it.

Superman had one major rival in the so-called Golden Age of Comics (the joke in fandom goes that the real "golden age of comics" is 11): Fawcett Publishing's Captain Marvel.
Whereas Superman was an alien, Captain Marvel gained his powers from a pantheon of ancient gods and heroes, Solomon, Hercules, Atlas, Zeus, Achilles and Mercury.
Hence the magickal incantation, "Shazam!"
DC Comics, or National Comics as they were known then, didn't appreciate the competition and took Fawcett to court. The basis for their suit was that Captain Marvel's powers and appearance were too similar to Superman's. But it was falling sales that did Captain Marvel in. Fawcett cut their losses and dumped the Captain and his cohort in the early 50s.
However, Captain Marvel was so popular in Britain that his UK publisher created a new character, gave him a red, blue and gold jumpsuit and called "Marvelman." He began life in 1953 and continued his adventures until 1963. In other words, the period between David Bowie's sixth and sixteen birthdays.

Which is to say, Bowie's Golden Age of Comics.

In any event the name fell out of copyright and in steps Marvel Comics, who snap up the copyright and create their own Captain Marvel. The first incarnation of the character was a dud, but he got a makeover with issue #17 (released July 1969) and became a definitive character of the Bronze Age of Comics.
Starman, waiting in the sky
And with his slim frame and form-fitting red, blue and gold jumpsuit with yellow accents, the new-model Captain Marvel couldn't help but conjure up comparisons to Marvelman, even if Green Lantern seemed to be the obvious visual model for the new costume.

Marvel's Captain Marvel was an alien, part of a race known as the Kree (connected to Jack Kirby's pre-Chariots of the Gods ancient astronaut cosmology) and had been exiled to the Negative Zone, the anti-matter universe introduced in Fantastic Four #51 (1966).
Through a convoluted sequence of events he becomes linked to Rick Jones, Marvel's all-purpose sidekick (he was formerly teamed with the Hulk and then Captain America) and whenever peril draws near, the two change places in the Negative Zone via the Nega-bands, which are essentially magical gold bracelets.

Note Captain Marvel's mask shape and Marvelman's gold disc
And what's more, an epic storyline ("The Kree-Skrull War") featuring Captain Marvel and Rick Jones and a host of superbeings and aliens-- one of Marvel's most important multi-story arcs and the biggest event in comics fandom at the time-- wrapped itself up in a comic that hit the stands in December 1971, just as David and Angela Bowie were rolling into Manhattan for an extended stopover to promote the newly-released Hunky Dory.

And, oh yeah, from 1967 to 1973, Captain Marvel had silver hair.
Now, let's take a look at "Starman." The one and only single off Ziggy Stardust during its initial release, Bowie's first hit in three years, written and recorded late in the process (early '72). The turning point in Bowie's career when he performed it on his star-making turn on Top of the Pops.

In a red, blue and gold jumpsuit.
With gold bracelets.
Let's look at those lyrics again for a moment:

Then the loud sound did seem to fade
/Came back like a slow voice on a wave of phase
/That weren't no D.J. that was hazy cosmic jive/There's a starman waiting in the sky
/He'd like to come and meet us
/But he thinks he'd blow our minds

And let's look at Captain Marvel #17…

In this story Rick Jones is lured into a cave filled with alien artifacts by the "Supreme Intelligence" of the alien Kree. The lure is an image of his friend Captain America, who then does a "fade-out" on Rick.
And what appears, literally on a wave of phase?
The starman, Captain Marvel, who apparently doesn't want to blow anyone's mind. The starman who Rick Jones then channels in our plane by slamming the Nega-bands together (yeah, I know).

What message does Bowie's Starman bring?
He told me/Let the children lose it/Let the children use it/Let all the children boogie...
What does Rick Jones decide to do immediately after channeling (see issue #18) this alien starman?
Become an aspiring rock star (or "boogie").

Yeah, I think we'd better dig into Bowie's Ziggy rap to William S. Burroughs again.
"Ziggy is advised in a dream by the Infinites to write the coming of a starman, so he writes "Starman," which is the first news of hope that the people have heard."
We saw how in Captain Marvel #17 how Rick Jones is lured through hallucinations (rather than a dream) instilled by the "Supreme Intelligence" to channel the alien Captain Marvel. Immediately after, he decides to become a rock star.
"So they latch onto it immediately. The starmen that he is talking about are called the Infinites, and they are black-hole jumpers. Ziggy has been talking about this amazing spaceman who will be coming down to save the earth."

Captain Marvel is trying to come save the earth but is trapped in the Negative Zone.
And here's where we get our smoking gun.

"They arrive somewhere in Greenwich Village."
From Captain Marvel #20, released March 1970 (the same month as The Hype's debut): Here we see Rick Jones, playing his music where?
Greenwich Village.

Next?

"They just happened to stumble into our universe by black-hole jumping. Their whole life is traveling from universe to universe."
After Rick's gig he is contacted by Captain Marvel, who is trapped in another universe and wants to come to ours. Next?
"Now Ziggy starts to believe in all this himself and thinks himself a prophet of the future starman. He takes himself up to incredible spiritual heights and is kept alive by his disciples."
Rick Jones, musical novice, takes his disciples to incredible spiritual heights, apparently with the cosmic power still remaining in his body. Moving on...

"When the infinites arrive, they take bits of Ziggy to make themselves real because in their original state they are anti-matter and cannot exist on our world."
And since he is trapped in the anti-matter based Negative Zone, Captain Marvel needs to take the young rock singer's atoms to exist in our world.
Do I need to remind you Bowie's real surname was Jones?
Oh, I know what you're thinking. This is all crazytalk.

I mean, why would a comic book about a young rock singer channeling the power of a alien superman possibly appeal to David Bowie, right? Especially a young rock singer surnamed Jones? I mean, it's preposterous!
And anyway there's no possible connection between Bowie and Captain Marvel or else someone would have discovered it already. This is all blue-sky conjecture.
I mean, where's the connection between David Bowie and comic book superheroes, anyway?
Oh. Wait.

In 1975, the then-wife of rockstar David Bowie, Angela, got the television rights for Black Widow and Daredevil from Stan Lee in hopes of using it as a star-vehicle for Angela’s own on-screen ambitions. Angela Bowie enlisted actor Ben Carruthers (The Dirty Dozen, Shadows) to play Daredevil, and the duo did several black-and-white stills dressed up in their parts.
Bowie enlisted her husband’s Ziggy Stardust era costume designer Natasha Kornikoff to design the outfits, adding face paint to Daredevil’s ensemble but leaving Black Widow’s look relatively untouched.
Oh. That connection.

Angela, in her own words:

“I’ve always been a Marvel fan. As a kid I would pick up a two-foot stack of comics and read them in the back of my dad’s car on long journeys across the States. That’s how I used to make friends – I’d meet up with other kids and we’d swap comics.

I loved the outrageous costumes but I also loved the stories. What adults don’t always understand is that to a kid, a comic book is like a movie. My Marvel comics took my imagination to other places – other galaxies."
Other galaxies. You don't say.
One thing people may not realize is how influential Angela was in Bowie's glam phase, and how involved she was in the design and concept of his Ziggy-era stage presentations.

"David and I both thought that rock music was boring, so we started talking about how we could make it more interesting. We said, ‘Look, you don’t have to wear denims and a beer-stained T-shirt and just bang out your hit singles. If you’ve got good music, let’s make it look good, too. Let’s give it colour and light – let’s make it theatrical.’ So that’s what we did, and people called it glam rock."


It's worth noting that he moved away from the cartoonish of Glam at the same time he and Angie drifted apart as a couple, and would favor much starker and more austere outfits and stage shows as the 70s wore on. But during the Glam years, Angie had big plans for the Ziggy character.

"Then I found myself back in the US promoting David’s live show. I was having a meeting about doing a cartoon version of Ziggy Stardust and I got invited to lunch with Marvel comics legend Stan Lee – the guy who helped create all those great characters like Spider-Man and Iron Man.
“We got talking about one of the female Marvel characters, Black Widow. Everybody round the table started getting really excited about it, and suddenly there I was paying Stan Lee one dollar for the movie rights.Back in London I set to work with Natasha Korniloff, who designed some of the costumes for Ziggy Stardust, and the photographer Terry O’Neill.
With Terry’s help, I pushed and pushed the project, but what I didn’t realise in all my youthful enthusiasm was that the special-effects business wasn’t quite advanced enough to make the film that I wanted to make….But I’m still a Marvel fan and I’ve seen all the films. "

Well.
Not such a crazy theory after all, don't you think?
But hold on tight, because the story is about to get a lot weirder.
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Re: David Bowie RIP

Postby Cordelia » Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:39 pm

My curiosity was piqued last night, watching an episode from a 2010 BBC crime series that mentioned Bowie several times.

fwiw dept........if not already posted in this thread; the color of his eyes (and dilated left pupil)......

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The Truth Behind David Bowie’s Eyes

Posted by Amanda Dexter on Jan 14, 2016

I couldn’t believe my eyes when I was scrolling through my Facebook feed on Monday. First, I was shocked to hear of the passing of David Bowie, but I also noticed that along with this news, there were several stories about his iconic eye appearance. I had always been told, and always believed, that David Bowie’s unusual eye appearance was due to heterochromia iridis…

I guess I was wrong! After reading a few of these articles, I found that the real reason David Bowie’s eyes appeared to be different colors was because he had anisocoria! Did you know that? Or had you also been duped into believing he had heterochromia?!

Here’s the Real Story…

Back when David Bowie was 15 years-old, he and his buddy (George Underwood) got into a bit of a scuffle over a girl that they both liked. During the fight, David Bowie took a sucker punch to the left side of his face. Bowie reportedly suffered a deep corneal abrasion from Underwood’s fingernail. Additionally, the trauma and force of the blow damaged Bowie’s iris, causing complete paralysis of his iris sphincter muscle. Therefore, his left eye was left permanently dilated and unresponsive to light stimuli, while his right eye was unaffected.

Continued........
http://blog.optoprep.com/the-truth-behi ... owies-eyes


From a BBC interview, a technique Bowie used for writing lyrics.


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Re: David Bowie RIP

Postby identity » Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:27 am

http://lifeonmagrs.blogspot.ca/2017/10/ ... mment-form

'Fancy Believing in the Goblin King'

My friend told me a story he hadn’t told anyone for years. When he used to tell it years ago people would laugh and say, ‘Who’d believe that? How can that be true? That’s daft.’ So he didn’t tell it again for ages. But for some reason, last night, he knew it would be just the kind of story I would love.

When he was a kid, he said, they didn’t use the word autism, they just said ‘shy’, or ‘isn’t very good at being around strangers or lots of people.’ But that’s what he was, and is, and he doesn’t mind telling anyone. It’s just a matter of fact with him, and sometimes it makes him sound a little and act different, but that’s okay.

Anyway, when he was a kid it was the middle of the 1980s and they were still saying ‘shy’ or ‘withdrawn’ rather than ‘autistic’. He went to London with his mother to see a special screening of a new film he really loved. He must have won a competition or something, I think. Some of the details he can’t quite remember, but he thinks it must have been London they went to, and the film…! Well, the film is one of my all-time favourites, too. It’s a dark, mysterious fantasy movie. Every single frame is crammed with puppets and goblins. There are silly songs and a goblin king who wears clingy silver tights and who kidnaps a baby and this is what kickstarts the whole adventure.

It was ‘Labyrinth’, of course, and the star was David Bowie, and he was there to meet the children who had come to see this special screening.

‘I met David Bowie once,’ was the thing that my friend said, that caught my attention.

‘You did? When was this?’ I was amazed, and surprised, too, at the casual way he brought this revelation out. Almost anyone else I know would have told the tale a million times already.

He seemed surprised I would want to know, and he told me the whole thing, all out of order, and I eked the details out of him.

He told the story as if it was he’d been on an adventure back then, and he wasn’t quite allowed to tell the story. Like there was a pact, or a magic spell surrounding it. As if something profound and peculiar would occur if he broke the confidence.

It was thirty years ago and all us kids who’d loved Labyrinth then, and who still love it now, are all middle-aged. Saddest of all, the Goblin King is dead. Does the magic still exist?

I asked him what happened on his adventure.

‘I was withdrawn, more withdrawn than the other kids. We all got a signed poster. Because I was so shy, they put me in a separate room, to one side, and so I got to meet him alone. He’d heard I was shy and it was his idea. He spent thirty minutes with me.

‘He gave me this mask. This one. Look.

‘He said: ‘This is an invisible mask, you see?

‘He took it off his own face and looked around like he was scared and uncomfortable all of a sudden. He passed me his invisible mask. ‘Put it on,’ he told me. ‘It’s magic.’

‘And so I did.

‘Then he told me, ‘I always feel afraid, just the same as you. But I wear this mask every single day. And it doesn’t take the fear away, but it makes it feel a bit better. I feel brave enough then to face the whole world and all the people. And now you will, too.

‘I sat there in his magic mask, looking through the eyes at David Bowie and it was true, I did feel better.

‘Then I watched as he made another magic mask. He spun it out of thin air, out of nothing at all. He finished it and smiled and then he put it on. And he looked so relieved and pleased. He smiled at me.

‘'Now we’ve both got invisible masks. We can both see through them perfectly well and no one would know we’re even wearing them,' he said.

‘So, I felt incredibly comfortable. It was the first time I felt safe in my whole life.

‘It was magic. He was a wizard. He was a goblin king, grinning at me.

‘I still keep the mask, of course. This is it, now. Look.’

I kept asking my friend questions, amazed by his story. I loved it and wanted all the details. How many other kids? Did they have puppets from the film there, as well? What was David Bowie wearing? I imagined him in his lilac suit from Live Aid. Or maybe he was dressed as the Goblin King in lacy ruffles and cobwebs and glitter.

What was the last thing he said to you, when you had to say goodbye?

‘David Bowie said, ‘I’m always afraid as well. But this is how you can feel brave in the world.’ And then it was over. I’ve never forgotten it. And years later I cried when I heard he had passed.’

My friend was surprised I was delighted by this tale.

‘The normal reaction is: that’s just a stupid story. Fancy believing in an invisible mask.’

But I do. I really believe in it.

And it’s the best story I’ve heard all year.


and from the comments:

This is stunning. This shows that David understood people and children far more deeply than we ever realized. David was a shy kid himself, remember.couldnt talk to people when he was very young. Listen to Conversation Piece. This Confession of fear he told the boy was his honest truth, not some fable. What you see is his genius at portraying and miming exactly what he understands and what he knows the boy feels. Brilliant empathic, expressive, theraputic understanding. I keep telling you guys: being in rocknroll was just a MASK---ONE OF THOUSANDS he made and used to make us understand.
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Re: David Bowie RIP

Postby semper occultus » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:13 am

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