The WW3 is beginning thread

[dada]

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2016/10/an-afternoon-in-early-autumn.html

JMG had an interesting observation/estimate regarding the scale of human life relative to the time span of the planet's life bearing capacity.

Thanks for that. I was going to make a similar point in this thread, but that summed it up nicely.

I'm another that doesn't see the big nuclear war looming close, any more than usual, at least. But if it did happen, I take comfort in knowing that the planet will grow right over any mess we've made. You could almost say we'd be doing the planet a favor by dying out, except the time scale makes it so that we're pretty much inconsequential.

I think about how plants and trees break up concrete, and how quickly things become covered in overgrowth when left alone. Our industrial civilization will be like Mayan pyramids lost in the jungle for a few minutes, then gone.

I wonder though if the constant threat of mushroom clouds has done something terrible to humanity, psychologically. Living with this can't be a good thing. Probably effects us in ways we don't realize.

It would take a lot to turn the planet into a barren rock, or an asteroid belt. Have to knock it out of orbit, or figure out a way to crash the moon into the planet.

Like Burroughs' Apocalypse. "Planet is pulling loose from its moorings, careening into space, spilling cities, and mountains, and seas into the void, faster and faster..."

[Nordic]

Pretty much everything Russia has done since the fall of the wall has been 100% defensive. Which is what you're supposed to do.

A lot of what they were defending was the US fucking with them. The US is now seriously trying to goad them into a hot war. So far they have avoided this and embarrassed the stupid bullying murderous US at the same time.

Im actually glad there is someone setting limits to US imperialism. You can bet that there are s lot of private conversations going on around the world at the very top levels discussing how America can be dealt with. Nobody wants massive war on earth but the US.

The rest of the world is sick of our shit. They will act. Somehow.

[km artlu]

^^^^ Yep.

Driving home late tonight and I hear on BBC the statement of some Anglo-American stooge declaring the need to "investigate Russia for war crimes in Syria".

And who better to take the moral high ground than the USA, who financed, equipped, logistically aided, and protected the Islamic fucking State and associated psychopaths?

America has jumped the shark, and you're damn right it's essential to have Russia serve as the primary check on its insatiable lust for dominance.

[OP ED]

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2016/10/an-afternoon-in-early-autumn.html

JMG had an interesting observation/estimate regarding the scale of human life relative to the time span of the planet's life bearing capacity.

Thanks for that. I was going to make a similar point in this thread, but that summed it up nicely.

I'm another that doesn't see the big nuclear war looming close, any more than usual, at least. But if it did happen, I take comfort in knowing that the planet will grow right over any mess we've made. You could almost say we'd be doing the planet a favor by dying out, except the time scale makes it so that we're pretty much inconsequential.

I think about how plants and trees break up concrete, and how quickly things become covered in overgrowth when left alone. Our industrial civilization will be like Mayan pyramids lost in the jungle for a few minutes, then gone.

I wonder though if the constant threat of mushroom clouds has done something terrible to humanity, psychologically. Living with this can't be a good thing. Probably effects us in ways we don't realize.

It would take a lot to turn the planet into a barren rock, or an asteroid belt. Have to knock it out of orbit, or figure out a way to crash the moon into the planet.

Like Burroughs' Apocalypse. "Planet is pulling loose from its moorings, careening into space, spilling cities, and mountains, and seas into the void, faster and faster..."

You could cascade the explosions to break down into the mantle if you piled them atop one another which could cause catastrophic breakup of the crustal plates. Killing everything and burying all the evidence under miles of lava. Like a reset button.

Or with about 90% of the u.s. Military budget you could build an railgun, inverted into the crust a few miles and above a couple miles and create a one-shot solution. As if we were always asteroids. The Russians actually theorized a few doomsday weapons like this about sixty years ago, but they were quite out of reach for the technology at the time.

(the main obstacle being that it would be obvious from space)

[tron]

things like the super railgun piss me off, war pisses me off, how dare someone have a creative mind and come up with that nonsense.

[OP ED]

Oh, that was mine. The modernization at least. I invented it for sci fi.

[Iamwhomiam]

IT IS STILL 3 MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT

Doomsday Dashboard
http://thebulletin.org/doomsday-dashboard


The Bomb

[tron]

Oh, that was mine. The modernization at least. I invented it for sci fi.

lol i know, you get me though, war is pretty wasteful, dont get me started on looking for life in space, we should look under our feet for life.