Connecticut Elementary School Massacre

[barracuda]

Luper, Willow was just being nice enough to try and point me toward some information regarding the rather general question of the mental states of mass murderers. The article seems to address that pretty directly, and for that I thank her kindly.

[lupercal]

^^ "Such as we are made of, such we be."

[barracuda]

Maybe our frailty really is the cause.

[lupercal]

^ But all the story of the night told over ... grows to something of great constancy.

[lupercal]

Maybe our frailty really is the cause.

The king, the king's to blame.

[Project Willow]

Not to sully the state of Texas or annoy our many fine RI members from it but if you have to stoop to quoting criminologists, who are basically in the business of manufacturing cases, you probably never had one to start with. JMHO.

OMG! Criminologists! Academics! Scarwey!

You know who is my favorite criminologist? Hal Pepinsky.

Since the fall of 1993, Hal has as far as he knows been the only university professor to bring more than one ra/mc survivor to his classes. Hal has taught criminal justice for 37 years. Surviving ritual abuse and mind control has become a foundation for his larger thinking on what he calls "peacemaking," establishing safe relations in the face of violence.

http://smart-talkspodcastblog.blogspot.com/2011/11/hal-pepinsky-2008-weighing-and.html

http://www.indiana.edu/~crimjust/faculty_pepinsky.php?nav=people

You paint yourself out of the picture with such broad brushes, and ridiculously so.

[lupercal]

OMG! Criminologists! Academics! Scarwey!

I never really thought of them as academics, more like super-crafty cops with a really nasty bag of tricks.

[Project Willow]

^ There's a kernel in that study you actually might find useful:

However, Hamamato (2002) argues that the United States produce most of the world's mass murderers because of a "blow back" by civilians scripting violence in a hyper-militarized America which started with the increasing military adventures after WWII.

[lupercal]

^ There's a kernel in that study you actually might find useful:

However, Hamamato (2002) argues that the United States produce most of the world's mass murderers because of a "blow back" by civilians scripting violence in a hyper-militarized America which started with the increasing military adventures after WWII.

Thanks! I'll look into it. Now, not to be overly contentious Willow, but here's how that claim would nicely fit my characterization of criminologists, and yes I've casually known one or two IRL, and they seem like the nicest guys in the world. Anyway the blowback argument is an artifact of the craft so to speak because most if not all the terror events attributed to "blowback" and suicidal fanatics are in fact arranged covertly by intelligence forces. They did this in Ireland for example in the 80s, and as far as I know it's been publicly documented, so there's nothing tinfoil about it. So to attribute the astonishing number of recent US mass shootings to blowback is another way of denying that most if not all of those, too, are intel operations. And that's exactly the argument I'd expect such an article in such a journal to make. Jmho of course!

[slimmouse]

Lest we forget,

[Elihu]

http://solari.com/blog/a-fiscal-cliff-s ... n-control/

"There is .. absolutely a relationship between the fiscal cliff and gun control and gun control serves several purposes. The leadership has been trying for many years to disarm the population and throughout the English-speaking world we've seen that happen in many other countries and the effort to disarm the population here is very significant. And it is significant coming as it did right upon the fiscal cliff negotiations for two reasons.

"One is, if you look at what has to happen in terms of reducing spending and/or increasing taxes and changing the financial operations of the country given the dependency of the general population, I think that the leadership is very sensitive to the fact that we have not been running the federal finances according to the law and if it came to a real confrontation with citizens over how money was going to be allocated, the citizens are on very strong legal grounds to say, "No, we're not going to pay taxes. We're going to escrow taxes. We're going to assert all sorts of legal authorities over how the money is being managed." I think the leadership is on very shaky legal ground and as a result is very concerned that the population would have the physical ability to prevent all sorts of what I would call illegal enforcement. ... "

http://solari.com/blog/solari-story-divide-and-conquer/

"... But what I've found, unfortunately, is that in a divide and conquer situation it's relatively easy if you control the fed budget to buy people into opposing camps. So for example, we saw during the fiscal cliff negotiations New York State constantly was turned down on the Hurricane Sandy relief package and yet we come into gun control and suddenly New York passes a gun control law and the next minute Congress passes a $51 billion hurricane relief package. Well, if you can steal $4 trillion and turn around and buy people with $51 billion packages you can buy a lot of people. ..."

[brainpanhandler]

Look, if there ever really is a breakdown of civil order on a scale where guns will become instrumental to opposing tyranny and basic self defense/ survival they will also be essential tools for establishing new centers of power, control and yes, tyranny. The government is not going to go door to door confiscating your guns for christ's sake. Get real. But post collapse you better be as ready to be on guard against:




as you were Obama's Orwellian gun grab. Unless you're one of with them.

[Elihu]

Look, if there ever really is a breakdown of civil order on a scale where guns will become instrumental to opposing tyranny and basic self defense/ survival they will also be essential tools for establishing new centers of power, control and yes, tyranny. The government is not going to go door to door confiscating your guns for christ's sake. Get real.

dammit man! why do you always go for the gun bait? think man, think!

I think that the leadership is very sensitive to the fact that we have not been running the federal finances according to the law

this is the issue, the big con, the big scam, the big double standard, the big scitzophrenia. everyone everywhere is eventually going to give over everything they have to the state including their opinions. to square the obvious fraud.

serf: that's not unfair is it?
state: in the grand scheme of things, no.
serf: okay

we're not there yet and progress can be difficult to assess. the comments from the link were simply speculation (sensible imo). you seem to believe in the collapse. somebody's gotta pay when the credit cards max out. i don't give a #$%^ about all the state's good intentions. functionally it's deranged. that should come into focus as the collapse gets worse. fwiw, i think gun legislation is a red herring. they've got a much worse sleight of hand in mind...

[solace]

Lest we forget,

Wounded Knee was awful BUT it didn't happen at a school. Another David Icke fail.

[brainpanhandler]

they've got a much worse sleight of hand in mind...

So cut the cryptic crapola and speak plainly.