Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

[minime]

From the article...

"The frequent gambler, described as a loner, spent months amassing his arsenal, staying under the radar with no one suspecting he would turn to extreme violence."

Who writes this shit? Who edits it? Who signs off on it?

I would say you can't make this stuff up, but... well...

[Blue]

Vegas Gunman Stephen Paddock’s Brother Arrested in Child Porn Probe

eta another link: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ve ... be-n811461

The estranged brother of the Las Vegas massacre gunman Stephen Paddock was arrested Wednesday on child pornography charges, law enforcement sources said.

Bruce Paddock, 58, was detained at a Los Angeles assisted-living facility, where he was awaiting surgery for spinal stenosis. A felony complaint said he had over 600 explicit images of minors in 2014 and had also swapped pornography.

He faces 19 counts of sexual exploitation of a child and one count of possession of child pornography, the complaint says.

An attorney who Paddock said had represented him in criminal matters in the past told NBC News he is no longer representing Paddock and declined to comment.

Image: Stephen Paddock
Stephen Paddock killed 58 people in Las Vegas. Now his brother Bruce is in custody on an unrelated matter. U.S. Government / via NBC News
At the time of the mass shooting on Oct. 1 that left 58 dead, Bruce Paddock told NBC News that he had not been in touch with his brother Stephen for 10 years and had no idea why the professional gambler would have opened fire on music festival attendees from his room at the Mandalay Bay.

"I don't know how he could stoop to this low point, hurting someone else. It wasn't suicide by cop since he killed himself," he said at the time. "He killed a bunch of people and then killed himself so he didn't have to face whatever it was."

It was Bruce Paddock who revealed that their father was a bank robber who once made the FBI's most-wanted list and was judged by authorities to be "psychopathic" with "suicidal tendencies."

Image: Benjamin Paddocks
Benjamin Hoskins Paddock, father of Bruce and Stephen Paddock, was a bank robber on the FBI most wanted list. FBI / Wayne Eastburn / The Register-Guard via AP file
But he insisted that his brother wasn't "mentally deranged" and noted that Stephen had never been in trouble with the law like he had.

Court records show Bruce Paddock has a criminal record stretching back to the 1980s, with convictions for vandalism, criminal threats, theft and driving with a suspended vehicle and other arrests for which he was not convicted.

Paddock was annoyed that his brother's monstrous crime had brought attention to his own misdeeds, which he described as "minor." He had to scramble to pay a fine after it was reported that there was an active warrant for his arrest from a vandalism case in which he had failed to perform community service.

"I'm not proud of it," he said. "But I never went to prison."

FBI agents visited him twice after the shooting, he said, and were mostly interested in his brother's childhood.

In the days after the Vegas carnage, Paddock frantically tried to reconnect with members of his fractured family, leaving messages for another brother Eric and reaching out to the attorney for Stephen's girlfriend, Marilu Danley.

"I want to see if we could patch up what we destroyed so many years ago," he said. He added that he had only succeeded in reaching his elderly mother, "and she's yelling at me all the time not to talk to anyone."

Earlier this week, Paddock said he was concerned about the fate of his brother's remains and had reached out to the coroner's office in Nevada to see if he could claim them.

[Pele'sDaughter]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-shoo ... d=50709285

A laptop computer recovered from the Las Vegas hotel room where Stephen Paddock launched the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was missing its hard drive, depriving investigators of a potential key source of information on why he killed and maimed so many people, ABC News has learned.

Paddock is believed to have removed the hard drive before fatally shooting himself, and the missing device has not yet been recovered, sources told ABC News.

Investigators digging into Paddock’s background also learned he purchased software designed to erase files from a hard drive, but without the hard drive to examine it is impossible to know if he ever used the software, one source said.

The absence of substantial digital clues has left investigators struggling to piece together what triggered Paddock to kill 58 innocent concertgoers and injure more than 500 others on Oct. 1.

Authorities are examining every aspect of Paddock’s life — from his family, friends and associates to his travel patterns, health and finances. So far, a motive has been elusive to investigators.

[Brentos]

Yeah, even weirder, is that the laptop with the removed hard drive, was in the Vegas room with him, but no sign of a hard drive. It looks like the story of his brother Bruce being a pedo, came out at the same time as this missing HD story, or just thereafter. It's possible that Paddock did have something personal so incriminating on his HD, that even though he was likely going to kill himself, he had to hide it? Is this being insinuated? But, why have the laptop in the room at all without the HD? The laptop is pretty much useless without the HD, unless he was booting off of USB or another means. As mentioned in another news article, other alleged lone nut suicidal shooters in the past have felt the need to hide their hard drives and sim cards before setting off on suicide missions. The other scenario, is that someone else removed it for a reason.

[PufPuf93]

Paddock's 2nd estranged brother has come to attention in an icky manner. Probably has nothing to do with Stephen Paddock but Dave McGowan would notice where arrested. If "Bruce" has anything to say, it is automatically discounted now.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/the ... ossession/

Las Vegas gunman’s brother suspected of child porn possession

Bruce Paddock, brother of the Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock, was arrested Wednesday in North Hollywood, California, on charges of possessing child pornography. (Los Angeles Police Department)

By Brian Joseph and Arthur Kane Las Vegas Review-Journal

October 25, 2017 - 9:28 am

A brother of Mandalay Bay shooter Stephen Paddock was arrested early Wednesday in North Hollywood on charges of possessing more than 600 child pornography images, an arrest warrant shows.

Prosectors said Bruce Paddock, 58, is facing 19 misdemeanor counts of exploitation of a child and one felony count of possessing child pornography between January and August of 2014, according to the arrest warrant.

He was arrested in the 5300 block of Laurel Canyon Boulevard early Wednesday, police said .

Fifty-eight people were killed and hundreds more were wounded Oct. 1 at the Route 91 Harvest Festival on the Las Vegas Strip. Stephen Paddock opened fire from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay casino-hotel tower.

Another brother, Eric Paddock, spoke to the media following the shooting, but Bruce Paddock has not spoken publicly.

Bruce Paddock has been homeless and estranged from Stephen and other family members. He has a long criminal record, including vandalism and other charges in Los Angeles and Santa Barbara, court records show.

Bruce Paddock was staying in the Santa Barbara area between 2012 and 2015, according to court records and sources.

He stayed for two months at the Santa Barbara Rescue Mission in 2012, according to a worker at the mission.

In August 2014, Hector Cruz, a manager at Action Auto Center in the San Fernadno Valley, filed a restraining order against Paddock for squatting in the attic of his repair shop. Cruz’s son, Brian, a co-manager of the store, said Wednesday that Paddock had “a bunch of stuff” in the attic with him, including a computer. He also said Paddock set booby traps around the building. Eventually, police removed Paddock from the premises, Brian Cruz said.

A Los Angeles police news release confirmed that police located the child pornography evidence after Bruce Paddock was evicted from the 9000 block of San Fernando Road in Sun Valley, which is where the Action Auto Center is located. The release said Bruce Paddock was a transient and police could not locate him until Wednesday.

Paddock was arrested in December of 2014 for possession of drugs, drug paraphernalia and disorderly conduct for soliciting a lewd act, court records show. He received a three-year suspended sentence and served one day in jail.

A year later, he was arrested for driving with a suspended license. The court file notes that he forfeited bail.

[stickdog99]

:ohno:

Las Vegas shooter's laptop missing its hard drive
By JACK DATE MIKE LEVINE PIERRE THOMAS
Oct 25, 2017, 12:15 PM ET

A laptop computer recovered from the Las Vegas hotel room where Stephen Paddock launched the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history was missing its hard drive, depriving investigators of a potential key source of information on why he killed and maimed so many people, ABC News has learned. ...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-shoo ... d=50709285

"depriving"

Weird. From the above article.... talk about normalization...

In 2007, Virginia Tech shooter Cho Seung Hui removed the hard drive of his computer and disposed of his cell phone shortly before the massacre. Authorities even searched a pond for the missing digital media, but the devices were never recovered.

The 2008 Northern Illinois shooter, Steven Kazmierczak, removed the SIM card from his phone and the hard drive from his laptop, and neither was recovered.

In 2012, Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza had removed the hard drive from his computer and smashed it with a hammer or screwdriver.


Maybe there is a good reason for someone planning a suicide mission to do this?

LOL. And the Farooks? LOL

[stickdog99]

Vegas Gunman Stephen Paddock’s Brother Arrested in Child Porn Probe

eta another link: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ve ... be-n811461

The estranged brother of the Las Vegas massacre gunman Stephen Paddock was arrested Wednesday on child pornography charges, law enforcement sources said.

Bruce Paddock, 58, was detained at a Los Angeles assisted-living facility, where he was awaiting surgery for spinal stenosis. A felony complaint said he had over 600 explicit images of minors in 2014 and had also swapped pornography.

He faces 19 counts of sexual exploitation of a child and one count of possession of child pornography, the complaint says.

An attorney who Paddock said had represented him in criminal matters in the past told NBC News he is no longer representing Paddock and declined to comment.

Image: Stephen Paddock
Stephen Paddock killed 58 people in Las Vegas. Now his brother Bruce is in custody on an unrelated matter. U.S. Government / via NBC News
At the time of the mass shooting on Oct. 1 that left 58 dead, Bruce Paddock told NBC News that he had not been in touch with his brother Stephen for 10 years and had no idea why the professional gambler would have opened fire on music festival attendees from his room at the Mandalay Bay.

"I don't know how he could stoop to this low point, hurting someone else. It wasn't suicide by cop since he killed himself," he said at the time. "He killed a bunch of people and then killed himself so he didn't have to face whatever it was."

It was Bruce Paddock who revealed that their father was a bank robber who once made the FBI's most-wanted list and was judged by authorities to be "psychopathic" with "suicidal tendencies."

Image: Benjamin Paddocks
Benjamin Hoskins Paddock, father of Bruce and Stephen Paddock, was a bank robber on the FBI most wanted list. FBI / Wayne Eastburn / The Register-Guard via AP file
But he insisted that his brother wasn't "mentally deranged" and noted that Stephen had never been in trouble with the law like he had.

Court records show Bruce Paddock has a criminal record stretching back to the 1980s, with convictions for vandalism, criminal threats, theft and driving with a suspended vehicle and other arrests for which he was not convicted.

Paddock was annoyed that his brother's monstrous crime had brought attention to his own misdeeds, which he described as "minor." He had to scramble to pay a fine after it was reported that there was an active warrant for his arrest from a vandalism case in which he had failed to perform community service.

"I'm not proud of it," he said. "But I never went to prison."

FBI agents visited him twice after the shooting, he said, and were mostly interested in his brother's childhood.

In the days after the Vegas carnage, Paddock frantically tried to reconnect with members of his fractured family, leaving messages for another brother Eric and reaching out to the attorney for Stephen's girlfriend, Marilu Danley.

"I want to see if we could patch up what we destroyed so many years ago," he said. He added that he had only succeeded in reaching his elderly mother, "and she's yelling at me all the time not to talk to anyone."

Earlier this week, Paddock said he was concerned about the fate of his brother's remains and had reached out to the coroner's office in Nevada to see if he could claim them.

What? Please explain Bruce's action connection to Stephen's except as the perfect means to control and/or discredit Stephen.

[stickdog99]

Yeah, even weirder, is that the laptop with the removed hard drive, was in the Vegas room with him, but no sign of a hard drive. It looks like the story of his brother Bruce being a pedo, came out at the same time as this missing HD story, or just thereafter. It's possible that Paddock did have something personal so incriminating on his HD, that even though he was likely going to kill himself, he had to hide it? Is this being insinuated? But, why have the laptop in the room at all without the HD? The laptop is pretty much useless without the HD, unless he was booting off of USB or another means. As mentioned in another news article, other alleged lone nut suicidal shooters in the past have felt the need to hide their hard drives and sim cards before setting off on suicide missions. The other scenario, is that someone else removed it for a reason.

LOL. Really? So how was Paddock watching his security cameras with a laptop with a missing HD? LOL. Come on! Sure, that's the ticket!

[elfismiles]

As Brentos said "The laptop is pretty much useless without the HD, unless he was booting off of USB or another means. "

But then, they'd likely have found the USB-boot-drive in the room.

Yeah, even weirder, is that the laptop with the removed hard drive, was in the Vegas room with him, but no sign of a hard drive. It looks like the story of his brother Bruce being a pedo, came out at the same time as this missing HD story, or just thereafter. It's possible that Paddock did have something personal so incriminating on his HD, that even though he was likely going to kill himself, he had to hide it? Is this being insinuated? But, why have the laptop in the room at all without the HD? The laptop is pretty much useless without the HD, unless he was booting off of USB or another means. As mentioned in another news article, other alleged lone nut suicidal shooters in the past have felt the need to hide their hard drives and sim cards before setting off on suicide missions. The other scenario, is that someone else removed it for a reason.

LOL. Really? So how was Paddock watching his security cameras with a laptop with a missing HD? LOL. Come on! Sure, that's the ticket!

[elfismiles]

Yeah, Neon Nettle is pretty much complete bullshit most of the time...

ETA: writers at yournewswire.com and others at nnettle.com / neonnettle have been writing hogwash articles that all source back to Sorcha Faal so ... total crapola. And in this case I can find no evidence of Chad's death (so far with cursory searching) as reported in that nn article.

Interesting though that he was said to be killed in front of a church we've talked about around here a few times:

"Iglesia La Luz Del Mundo" / " Light of the World Church"

A Debunker's Lament
Post by Wombaticus Rex » 05 Nov 2015 20:15
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39277&hilit=Iglesia+La+Luz+del+Mundo

Search by user scottogle who has more or less only posted on that church here...
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KITV Moanikeala Nabarro:

Our station stands behind our story but he’s been bombarded with calls from media and wanted story taken off web site. We respected his wishes October 10 at 12:04pm

https://www.facebook.com/KITVMoanikealaNabarro/posts/10159386849525048?comment_id=10159399041510048&reply_comment_id=10159406868415048&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R2%22%7D

This guy apparently just turned up murdered.
http://www.nnettle.com/features/1200-hotel-worker-vanishes-after-saying-stephen-paddock-didn-t-have-many-bags-

A valet worker from the Mandalay Bay hotel, who parked the suspected Las Vegas shooting gunman's car, has mysteriously vanished after giving an interview saying Stephen Paddock was a "normal guy" who "didn't have many bags".

Read more at: http://www.nnettle.com/features/1200-ho ... -many-bags

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=159902

Missing Las Vegas Shooting Witness Shot Dead

After checking, the last two links appear to be 100% clickbait disinfo. That still doesn't explain why KITV-4 removed the innocuous story in which Chad claimed that Paddock was just a regular guy without many bags.

Here it is on web archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20171003084 ... ooters-car

Now it is back on KITV's website:

http://www.kitv.com/story/36505487/hawa ... ooters-car

I can tell you for a fact that this story was deleted when I first checked on it a couple of weeks ago. Hmmm, was this all just a stupid, meaningless no-honey honeypot?

[Brentos]

Yeah, using the laptop to run/watch the security cameras makes sense. But again, why remove the HD? Seems like a common pattern with these lone nuts who go on suicide missions? Following all possibilities, a plausible scenario is that the HD was removed by someone else, and perhaps the public are being given a cover story. Someone who didnt want that security footage and/or other information that might be saved on the HD, to be scrutinized?

[minime]

It's clear to most that at this point almost all options are in play, many of which are not mutually exclusive...

but RI will probably leave the X-Files scenarios to abovetopsecret.com.

Though I'm inclined to give at least a nod in passing to laughing chance.

Which is to say that elements of Heaven Swan's, stickdog99's, and Mac's (et al's) narratives may each and all play a part in the execution (too soon?) of the massacre.

More important than ever to think outside of the box. Of course, everyone knows that, but it bears repeating.

So, perhaps a pmatriarchal event, driven by the followers of ISIS, with the blessings and benign neglect of other international alphanumeric agencies, and the nefarious, largely unconscious machinations of an automaton... rewired at 60hz, 14 hours a day over course of months if not years.

Everybody wins!

[82_28]

If he removed the HD and used the laptop to monitor the cameras and stuff did they find a live boot CD/DVD or live USB laying around anywhere? That shit still needs drivers. And/or what OS did it try to boot into -- what boot loader was there?

[stefano]

Following all possibilities, a plausible scenario is that the HD was removed by someone else, and perhaps the public are being given a cover story. Someone who didnt want that security footage and/or other information that might be saved on the HD, to be scrutinized?

The other information including whoever Paddock was emailing and Skyping in his final days and hours. I'd go with that, which fits with my suspicion that the reason it took an hour between Paddock's death and the 'official' breach of the hotel room was that people who knew who and where Paddock was called well-placed friends to hold off the other cops (and ambulancemen) because they wanted to tamper with the crime scene.

edit Cleaner just to take the laptop, but there you go. I also now thought of the report upthread that no chargers matched the phones at the scene.

[PufPuf93]

If he removed the HD and used the laptop to monitor the cameras and stuff did they find a live boot CD/DVD or live USB laying around anywhere? That shit still needs drivers. And/or what OS did it try to boot into -- what boot loader was there?

If the missing HD is fact, this is a huge red flag.

Where would the HD go unless taken by 1st responders and / or authority that controlled the site.

Stephen Paddock did not take the HD.