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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby justdrew » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:15 pm

ok, the worthless AP doing it's typical pro-republican bullshit.

why is there flooding? Why it's the ACoE's fault!

Flooding remains a concern all along the Missouri because of massive amounts of water the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has released from upstream reservoirs," reported AP today.


granted the ACoE did it's best to destroy N.O. and may be wildly incompetent, but was there maybe RAINS involved in causing the flooding?
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby hanshan » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:27 pm

justdrew wrote:ok, the worthless AP doing it's typical pro-republican bullshit.

why is there flooding? Why it's the ACoE's fault!

Flooding remains a concern all along the Missouri because of massive amounts of water the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has released from upstream reservoirs," reported AP today.


granted the ACoE did it's best to destroy N.O. and may be wildly incompetent, but was there maybe RAINS involved in causing the flooding?



Rain? (Heh) Massive. Cold wet spring w/ constant rain, persisting (& torrential). Word is snow melt
not yet complete.
ACoE...mmmm


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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby justdrew » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:29 pm

hanshan wrote:
justdrew wrote:ok, the worthless AP doing it's typical pro-republican bullshit.

why is there flooding? Why it's the ACoE's fault!

Flooding remains a concern all along the Missouri because of massive amounts of water the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has released from upstream reservoirs," reported AP today.


granted the ACoE did it's best to destroy N.O. and may be wildly incompetent, but was there maybe RAINS involved in causing the flooding?



Rain? (Heh) Massive. Cold wet spring w/ constant rain, persisting (& torrential). Word is snow melt
not yet complete.
ACoE...mmmm


...


This country is full of moronic inbreed jackasses who will read that and blame the Fedrulgubamint for the flooding. That and duhGAYS.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby hanshan » Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:33 pm

justdrew wrote:
hanshan wrote:
justdrew wrote:ok, the worthless AP doing it's typical pro-republican bullshit.

why is there flooding? Why it's the ACoE's fault!

Flooding remains a concern all along the Missouri because of massive amounts of water the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has released from upstream reservoirs," reported AP today.


granted the ACoE did it's best to destroy N.O. and may be wildly incompetent, but was there maybe RAINS involved in causing the flooding?



Rain? (Heh) Massive. Cold wet spring w/ constant rain, persisting (& torrential). Word is snow melt
not yet complete.
ACoE...mmmm


...


This country is full of moronic inbreed jackasses who will read that and blame the Fedrulgubamint for the flooding. That and duhGAYS.


Ha ...T'aint it always the case

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:12 pm

Michio Kaku On America's Current Nuclear Emergencies In Nebraska & New Mexico

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:45 pm

Interesting choice of words.


http://www.nj.com/salem/index.ssf/2011/06/sakem_unit_2_nuclear_reactor_s.html

Cooling pump fails at New Jersey nuclear reactor, plant shut down — Remains in ‘hot shutdown’
June 28th, 2011 at 01:27 PM

Salem Unit 2 nuclear reactor shuts down after cooling pump failure, NJ.com, June 28, 2011:

The Salem Unit 2 nuclear plant remained shut down this afternoon following a problem with a reactor coolant pump, according to a spokesman for the plant’s operator. [...]

The cause of the pump failure is still being investigated, according to Delmar. The plant functioned as designed, he said.

The plant remained in “hot shutdown” mode this afternoon. [...]
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:49 pm

http://www.thebulletin.org/content/about-us/purpose

Two-thirds of hot nuclear fuel remains in reactor core at Calhoun plant even though media claims it was ‘shut down’ for refueling and maintenance
June 17th, 2011 at 06:04 PM

Rising water, falling journalism, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists by Dawn Stover, June 16, 2011:

Virtually every article about the flooding mentions that the Fort Calhoun plant was shut down on April 9. On May 27, the Omaha World-Herald reported, “The Omaha Public Power District said its nuclear plant at Fort Calhoun, which is shut down for maintenance, is safe from flooding.” The implication is that being shut down makes a plant safe. But as the ongoing crisis in Fukushima demonstrates, nuclear fuel remains hot long after a reactor is shut down. When Fort Calhoun is shut down for maintenance and refueling, only one-third of the fuel in the reactor core is removed.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:53 pm

Intake Structure that cools reactor probably most vulnerable at Ft. Calhoun nuke plant, Arnie Gunderson


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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby crikkett » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:59 am

justdrew wrote:This country is full of moronic inbreed jackasses who will read that and blame the Fedrulgubamint for the flooding. That and duhGAYS.


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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:09 pm

justdrew wrote:
This country is full of moronic inbreed jackasses who will read that and blame the Fedrulgubamint for the flooding. That and duhGAYS.



I suppose I am one of those inbred jackasses. In my opinion the gubamint is directly responsible for some of the flooding. Some of the decisions they have made are asinine. To save a town of 3000 people (Cairo) the gubamint purposely flooded hundreds of thousands of acres of prime farmland and tens of thousands of people out of their homes. Interestingly enough a George Soros affiliated company, as well as gubamint agencies, are now coming in and buying up some of the flooded farm land. There is more going on here than simple rainwater looking for a place to go, IMO.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:12 pm

(CBS/AP)- Dangerous flames inch ever-closer to the Los Alamos National Lab- fueling more concerns of a possible disaster.

A major concern is that out of control wildfires may reach thousands of containers with Plutonium-contaminated waste in them.
But authorities at the lab say the containers are safe for now, while they continue to monitor the air for any sign of radiation.

Fire Chief Doug Tucker says, "I seriously think it will be up to 100 thousand acres, God I hope not God I hope not. There is unburnt fuel out there ."

So far the 93 square mile fire has come as close as 50 feet to the federal lab's property. Over 11 thousand people have been forced from their homes.
The lab is expected to be closed until at least Thursday.

Dangerous flames inch ever-closer to the Los Alamos National Lab- fueling more concerns of a possible disaster.

A major concern is that out of control wildfires may reach thousands of containers with Plutonium-contaminated waste in them.
But authorities at the lab say the containers are safe for now, while they continue to monitor the air for any sign of radiation.

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:16 pm

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-los-alamos-fire-20110629,0,5386698.story

Concern that drums filled with plutonium-contaminated waste at Los Alamos could burst from fire’s heat
June 29th, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Los Alamos National Laboratory managers see little threat from wildfire, Los Angeles Times, June 29, 2011:

[...] Los Alamos County Fire Chief Doug Tucker said his department had the capacity to blanket the barrels with fire-retarding foam if a fire somehow sprang up at the storage site, which is paved and free of combustible materials. [...]

“The concern is that these drums will get so hot that they’ll burst. That would put this toxic material into the plume. It’s a concern for everybody,” Joni Arends, executive director of Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety, told the Associated Press. [...]
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:21 pm

UPDATED: Killing Spot Fires, Protecting Canyons Main Priority
By ABQnews Staff on Wed, Jun 29, 2011
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12:35 p.m. Fire crews are working to build a black line, or defensive space, along State Road 501 and the Santa Clara Canyon to protect Los Alamos and White Rock from the Las Conchas Fire.

Get all the info, pictures and video from the fire at our Wildfire Page.

Los Alamos County Fire Chief Doug Tucker said at a noon press conference that the priority today will be putting out spot fires near Los Alamos and protecting the canyons, though he said there is no immediate danger to either town.

Until about 4 p.m., the fire is in a prime burn period with very little humidity, he said. Though winds are picking up, Tucker said as long as the winds don’t come from the west, “we’re in good shape.”

In the black line, firefighters are working to offensively burn out all of the area so the fire can’t spread towards the labs.

Police Chief Wayne Torpy said there are still about 100 to 150 Los Alamos residents still in the city. Patrols are stopping anyone to make sure no one is victimizing the mostly-abandoned town.

For updated information on the air quality testing, read Journal Science writer John Fleck’s latest post.

10:55 a.m. Forest Service officials are reporting that the Las Conchas Fire has grown to 69,555 acres but remains just 3 percent contained, the Albuquerque Journal’s Phil Parker reports from Los Alamos.

To view a full news release on the morning update, click here.

No structures have been lost in Los Alamos or at the lab, but 30 structures, mostly homes, were burned before the fire spread to Los Alamos County, according to the latest update from KOAT-TV.

The fire is both burning toward and away from the city of Los Alamos. Wind shifts will determine how close it gets.

“All this smoke is coming from smoldering fires just waiting to pick up and go, so it’s really depending on Mother Nature and those winds,” Los Alamos Fire Chief Doug Tucker said at a briefing this morning. “I’d seriously believe it could go to 100,000 acres. I hope not, God I hope not.”

State Forestry Division spokesman Dan Ware has said the largest forest fire in New Mexico history was the Ponil Complex Fire, which burned 92,500 acres near Cimarron in 2002, the Albuquerque Journal reported this morning.

Crews have managed to hold lines along the southern boundary of Los Alamos National Laboratory as well as along a highway on the edge of the community of Los Alamos, The Associated Press is reporting.

Fire information officer Rod Torrez says the key today will be keeping flames out of two canyons that stretch from the mountains into the community, the AP said.

As crews battle the flames, state and federal officials are monitoring the air.

Part of the effort will include a special twin-engine plane that was dispatched by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, according to the AP. The plane is outfitted with sensors that can collect detailed chemical and radiological air samples.

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7:45am 6/29/11 — Las Conchas Fire Meetings Set Today

Three community meetings are planned today for Los Alamos evacuees and residents affected by the Las Conchas Fire, and local authorities are urging those who have left their homes not to return just yet, KOB-TV is reporting.

The Los Alamos County Council will host a town hall meeting at 2 p.m. at the White Rock Baptist Church, 80 State Road 4, for White Rock residents and those who have been evacuated from Los Alamos, according to www.nmfireinfo.com.

Atomic City Transit will offer bus service from two shelters to the meeting: Pickup times are 12:45 p.m. at the Santa Claran Resort Center in Espanola and 1:15 p.m. at the Cities of Gold Hotel Conference Center.

Another community meeting will be held at 6 p.m. at the Madonna Parish Hall in Jemez Springs, off Highway 4 between mile markers 15 and 15.

Also at 2 p.m. there will be a meeting at the Cochiti Pueblo Community Center, 255 Cochiti Street, Cochiti Pueblo.

A meeting also is scheduled for 5 p.m. Thursday at the Senior Center, 1 Kee Street, Santa Clara Pueblo, according to the fire information website.

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5:46am 6/29/11 — Las Conchas Fire Now 3 Percent Contained

If there’s a sliver of good news to be had on the terrifying Las Conchas Fire raging near Los Alamos and the Los Alamos National Laboratory, officials are reporting that what is threatening to be New Mexico’s largest wildfire is now 3 percent contained.

The latest reports put the acreage burned at 60,741 acres, according to the latest update from Tuesday night on www.nmfireinfo.com. But overnight infrared mapping is likely to change that figure this morning.

The Albuquerque Journal’s Phil Parker reported from Los Alamos this morning that the campfire smell in town was the strongest there since the fire began on Sunday.

Smoke settled overnight on the streets and people’s lawns like a dense fog, so thick that even the mountains above Los Alamos weren’t visible from the center of town, Parker wrote.

Los Alamos today remains a ghost town — its streets empty except for the occasional National Guard Humvee or police cruiser.

Firefighters had looked to Tuesday as a “make or break day” in their struggle to keep the fast-growing fire from the now-nearly deserted city of 12,000, but the fire refused to be tamed, creeping to within a half-mile of the closest home in the Quemazon neighborhood, Parker reported.

The number of firefighters on hand as reported last night was 341, including three hotshot crews and nine handcrews, but the number of firefighters could reach 600 to 800 today, and might even climb to 1,000 eventually, according to the Journal’s Juan Carlos Rodriguez.

Deputy incident commander Mike Bradley said Tuesday he expects the Las Conchas Fire to grow indefinitely, the Journal said.

While national news media have focused on the possible threat to the national lab’s nuclear materials and radioactive waste, a top state environmental regulator told the Journal’s John Fleck that ordinary forest fire smoke — not contamination from nuclear weapons work — is probably the biggest health threat from the fire burning along the lab’s southern and western edge.

Lab and firefighting officials also said Tuesday that there was little risk of fire at the lab’s Area G radioactive waste storage site, where more than 10,000 drums of radioactive waste are in temporary above-ground storage, the Journal said.

And weather forecasters are saying that firefighters battling blazes near Los Alamos and elsewhere in northern New Mexico can expect more of the same troubling weather today — hot, dry and windy conditions, the Journal reported.

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:25 pm

Chief: “We have fire all around the lab – It’s a road away” — “Zero percent containment”
June 29th, 2011 at 01:08 AM

UPDATE 3-Los Alamos scurries to protect nuclear lab from fire, Reuters, June 28, 2011 at 10:41 pm EDT:

[... Los Alamos County Fire Chief Douglas
Tucker] said he feared the so-called Las Conchas Fire, whipped by high, rapidly shifting winds, could soon double or triple in size. The blaze remained listed as at zero percent containment and burning largely unchecked in its third day.

“I seriously believe it could go to 100,000 acres (40,000 hectares),” Tucker told reporters at a news briefing on Tuesday. “We have fire all around the lab. It’s a road away.” [...]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/ ... KH20110629
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby justdrew » Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:48 pm

eyeno wrote:
justdrew wrote:
This country is full of moronic inbreed jackasses who will read that and blame the Fedrulgubamint for the flooding. That and duhGAYS.



I suppose I am one of those inbred jackasses. In my opinion the gubamint is directly responsible for some of the flooding. Some of the decisions they have made are asinine. To save a town of 3000 people (Cairo) the gubamint purposely flooded hundreds of thousands of acres of prime farmland and tens of thousands of people out of their homes. Interestingly enough a George Soros affiliated company, as well as gubamint agencies, are now coming in and buying up some of the flooded farm land. There is more going on here than simple rainwater looking for a place to go, IMO.


nope. not at all eyno.

BTW - acres is a really crappy measure most people have no idea the size of... 130,000 acres flooded =~ 200 square miles or about an area 14 miles by 15 miles. Farmland is supposed to flood periodically, that's not so weird. and I doubt 10s of thousands of people live in that small area.

http://disaster-emergency-preparedness.com/flood-cairo-illinois-to-save-farmland/2011/04/
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