McCain was called "Hamlet." Movie now...'Hamlet 2'

[thegovernmentflu]

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Ok. I now fully condone people picking on you.

I can't believe you actually whipped out that trite "they disagree with me, therefore they are CIA" bullshit.
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Did you miss that I specifically said that's not what I'm asserting and you just quoted me -ahem- saying I wasn't saying that?

Again, with Font Power!

I'm not saying that anyone who disagrees with me or doesn't understand or whatever is a troll.

Hope that helped. Maybe try "ctrl" and "+".

You know what you were implying, weasel. I pointed out the obvious subtext in your first statement, and the second time was no different. Only this time you won't admit what you really meant.

I strongly believe, based on precedent, that there are professional trolls whose job it is to create friction on the topic of CIA media and psyops.

So do i, come to think of it.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

So you're saying none of this is aimed at us -- it's aimed at kids who don't know this yet.

If that's what you're saying, I wish you'd make that caveat a lot more clear -- it'd save a lot of misunderstanding in the future.

Almost all of us have been baffled for months if not years as to how this theory could possibly apply to grown adults like ourselves and our friends and family.

Ok. Glad that makes sense to you.

This is why I've been pointing at CIA-Disney so much.
And television and movies are all watched by pre-literate and aliterate people, usually youth.

This is the challenge of being unusually clever (?) unusually well-informed internet adults discussing how subtle stuff affects other people who mostly know what they see from Hollywood and almost no history.

Looking head on at subliminal dots and keywords makes them seem inconsequential to us, mere specks on our windshield that surely nobody would bother to place there.

Neuroscience and spookcraft are utterly foreign languages to most people, even on the internet. But those make up the gravity of cultural architecture since WWII.

[IanEye]

I'm not saying that anyone who disagrees with me or doesn't understand or whatever is a troll.

I think this sentence would be stronger if you replaced the word "anyone" with "everyone".

[Wombaticus Rex]

Neuroscience and spookcraft are utterly foreign languages to most people, even on the internet. But those make up the gravity of cultural architecture since WWII.

Whooo boy do I ever agree with that...once I got into marketing 2 years ago it utterly and permanently changed my conception of what power is, who has it, and how it gets used.

Well, for real Hugh, I think you would have a way easier time here if you made it clear that this is not aimed at us adults who already Know Too Much and it's not even aimed at savvy internet users.

Also, I'm pretty sure you're not a weasel.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

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Also, shouldn't Hugh's tactic have been rendered unfeasible by the internet?

The info-control game is a work in progress.

I can understand how someone might think this sort of thing could occur before the age of the internet, when the options to obtain information were much narrower than they are now. It would be also harder for kids to accidentally stumble on the suppressed definition of the word, since nobody would look up keywords from their favorite movies in an encyclopedia. So at least the KWH theory applied to a pre-internet society would SORT of make sense, though the logistics of it would still be difficult to imagine.

The keyword dynamic is a timeless BRAIN dynamic that is independent of search engine results although those first twenty results are prime territory to get ahold of.

But with the existence of the internet, it would make absolutely no sense to implement this KWH tactic.

But the internet is even more keyword-driven.
As long as most kidz are searching up entertainment piffle instead of "L. Fletcher Prouty," or "Fonzie" instead of "Gaeton Fonzi," they are no threat to power.

Yes, the answers we aren't supposed to know are there and some of us are finding them.
Atleast those of us motivated to find them.

How many kids are motivated to wade through all the JFK material and sort out the wheat from the chaff. Not many. So far. But numbers are going up.

What would the end result of this intricate psychological technique really be, now that the internet exists? Through the government's KWH propaganda, kids they're trying to "inoculate" are ultimately directed to a Google search results page that contains links to the very information that they don't want them to have in the first place. Can't they do better than that?

As long as people spend their bandwith not figuring out how social engineering works and exposing it to other people, the cost-benefit of the internet works out for control by serving as perfect surveillance of the 'opposition,' the intelligentsia Left and middle class using datamining and also seeing in real time how information spreads instead of having to go door-to-door and hope people give somewhat honest answers to sociometric questions.

Hugh can claim that the inoculation and KWH Google trickery will ensure that they never even scroll to the bottom of the page to see the real results, but even so- why even risk it? Is this the best they could do?

It's not a matter of "they'll never," it is a matter of cost-benefit.
The value of datamining purely digitized social behavior is still a social-control gold mine for research and planning to improve conditioning of children and actively setting the news cycle agenda.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

I'm not saying that anyone who disagrees with me or doesn't understand or whatever is a troll.

I think this sentence would be stronger if you replaced the word "anyone" with "everyone".

I think you're right. I'm trying to be careful without making an important subject taboo.

Hey, thegovernmentflu. I think some of your recent inquiries in this thread were really good ones that did justice to the topic, something I'm always glad to see whether it is in agreement with me or not.

[ultramegagenius]

alright, nevermind the ambiguity of a pleasant association automatically winning against a less defined one. i quite agree that these tactics are more suited toward children and the masses than a more sophisticated researcher, and subsequently i also agree that based on a cost/benefit analysis, these assanine tactics are easily executed through the Hollywood system in order to thwart the growing population of de-cultured slaves at large; but come on... this debate's been narrowed to whether children doing searches on the net look past the first 20 hits. talk about framing! it's a classical libertarian ruse to impute a sinister systematic importance to such measures and then assume that liberal government in general is ruining history. i say, stop the keyword framing, but don't stop the taxes, the gun permits, the public education, etc. send the rebels back to Bavaria, let them taste a real Brzezinski and then we'll see who's gung-ho for the militia.