chemtrail patterns maybe huge orgone energy patches

[Joe Hillshoist]

I truly hope you never see anything like what was in that video.

I've got heaps of experience burning stuff, and maintaining control over it, so if you need to do more burning and want to talk about it pm me.

Your voice here has always rang true with me, so thanks again!

Thank you.

[Trifecta]

Any feedback on your bold statement Hugh?

[Burnt Hill]

Off topic but this thread has sank anyway. Since PM'ing is a sensitive issue right now- I''ll bring it up out here. I live in the chilly NE USA, I heat my home with firewood, for years believing i was doing the world a favor by not burning the fuel oil. Now a local legislative board is trying to pass a requirement for certain filters in the chimney as apparently burning firewood for heat is a worse polluter than any other heat source, or so they say. Now I own my own forest, I only cut up whats already dead, manage my woods well to promote growth and wildlife, and plant at least 100 trees every year-okay they are for christmas trees but I do plant some fruit and some maple every year. Now Joe H., i believe you are in a warm year round climate? what do you think of this as a heatsource? And I've heard but not researched on ways to stack your fire for optimal heat. Also starting the fire the opposite way that I have learned-wood on bottom,kindling next, tinder on top. What do you know about any of this in your experience?

[Joe Hillshoist]

I love open fires. I know they pollute but I don't give a fuck. The more efficiently you burn the fuel the less carbon is released tho, but the more CO2. In some ways the other carbons better cos its particulat matter and cycles easier. Say in terms of greenhouse gases.

I have no idea how to set a fire for maximum heat just quickest start, but Apparantly wood fire boxes, or heaters are more efficient than open fires.

EDIT I have always found efficiency of heat was more dependant on the type of wood. Old cured hardwood from Aust eucalypts burns very hot cos of the sap and the wood itself, so you don't need much and it can melt or warp some wood heaters. It gets fookin hot. 6 month old sally wattle burns cooler.

You'd also have to take into account the envorinmental cost of the total of other heating systems, like the cost of pulling out gas, what it costs to mine it, build and maintain the infrastructure etc etc. I have no idea about all that really.

If you chop your own wood and burn it, have your own forest and manage and maintain it, and extend it where you can I wouldn't worry about burning wood. Ultimately I think you are still doing the world a favour not burning fuel oil, if you weigh it up.

I would do what I could to maximise passive heating, isulation etc etc, but really, if you are doing all that I don't think a wood fire is an evil thing.

I grew up in tasmania, which has cold winters, and springs, and autumns, so I love open fires. But the biggest cause of house fires in Tassie is chimneys catching alight, and flues from wood heaters. Make sure they are installed or built properly, and keep them clean, and make sure you can turn the oxygen flow off if you catch the fire quickly, This works best with open fires and chimneys, cos usually if a flue catches fire, unless its well insulated from any combustable materials they will burn.

Same thing applies to most wood stoves I have seen.

I have no experience with wood fired central heating systems and funaces.

[alwyn]

Chiming in here, I burn wood for fuel. Rule one, is (I"m sure you know), don't burn wet wood.

Earthstoves make a fireplace with a built-in catalytic converter. We have to use those in Mendo county. Keeps more of the particulates out of the air.


REally, at this point in time, there is NO clean fuel. Fuel from your own backyard is probably best in terms of carbon footprint. It is also renewable, and if you keep planting trees, maybe you come out ahead.

[psynapz]

REally, at this point in time, there is NO clean fuel.

I agree with everything else you said but that. Here's some counter-examples:

Solar steam plant:




Solar hydrogen:




[url=http://www.earthship.net/]Thermal mass heating/cooling in passive solar design:

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[Seamus OBlimey]

Here's some counter-examples:

I dunno..

Crystal growing and casting are metallurgical processes which are relatively energy intensive since they are processing molten silicon at around 1600°C. They consist of a large number of units of process equipment operating in parallel. This modular nature makes for relatively easy expansion of plant throughput.

The starting material is lumps of chemically pure polycrystalline silicon, of a quality close to semiconductor-grade, produced by the Siemens process. The solar industry has historically taken off-specification material that is rejected by the semiconductor industry. However, as growth of the PV industry is overtaking that for semiconductors, this scrap is in short supply and an increasing proportion of more expensive prime-grade Si is having to be used as meltstock.

Solarbuzz

Easing Concerns About Pollution From Manufacture Of Solar Cells

Dark Side of Solar Cells Brightens

Manufacturing solar cells produces less pollution than fossil fuels

[Seamus OBlimey]

Can't fault that though.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Agreed seamus.

All tech has a hidden carbon cost. That passive solar house would have one of the lowest tho.

[Burnt Hill]

Yes but that first one would be way cool in the backyard.

[alwyn]

Can't fault that though.

That would be my dream house, with a slightly higher hill behind it with a clear water spring, at the top! Woo hoo, gravity fed water....

as long as I'm dreaming....

Re: tech, the after market is way cool for the carbon footprint, but the manufacturing is still energy intensive, so, that's why I think if it's yer own wood, it is the best footprint, as long as ya replant.

[psynapz]

That would be my dream house, with a slightly higher hill behind it with a clear water spring, at the top! Woo hoo, gravity fed water....

as long as I'm dreaming....

Same house (click on the image for details):

[seemslikeadream]

Germany becomes one of the first countries to admit Chemtrails Ops

http://www.blinkx.com/video/germany-bec ... PBQZrDaNQQ

[hanshan]

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[Seamus OBlimey]

Just a thought but could the 'trail ops take the wind out of the sails of the solar industry?