BREAKING: Hughes Arrested for 1981 Alavarez Murders

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Postby American Dream » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:33 pm

Jeff wrote:
I want to maintain an open discussion with minimal intervention from a moderator, but before things get too active, I thought some simple guidelines might be a good idea.

Beyond trolling and disruption, posts subject to deletion or locking will be those which

1. advocate violence, or

2. espouse hatred for a people based upon their race, religion, gender or sexuality, or

3. suggest a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation. If you have suspicions, contact me.


Some of the folks on this thread may not have ever read the posting guidelines, so I am repeating this excerpt for their benefit.
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Postby desertfae » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:58 pm

American Dream wrote:Jeff wrote:
I want to maintain an open discussion with minimal intervention from a moderator, but before things get too active, I thought some simple guidelines might be a good idea.

Beyond trolling and disruption, posts subject to deletion or locking will be those which

1. advocate violence, or

2. espouse hatred for a people based upon their race, religion, gender or sexuality, or

3. suggest a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation. If you have suspicions, contact me.


Some of the folks on this thread may not have ever read the posting guidelines, so I am repeating this excerpt for their benefit.


Thanks so much for these guidelines!!
Now, I have to wonder if any guidelines exist if say someone -
    *claims a murder victims daughter is really just an actress.
    *posts that a murder victim's daughter is trying to 'cover up' something.
    *tells outright lies about a specific person.

What is the guideline if someone does something like this?
Or is it ok for them to lie and say libelous things toward someone, as long as nobody calls them on the lies?
Or, we can call them on their lies as long as they aren't part of the 'in crowd'?
Can you please clarify this for us almighty AD?
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Postby American Dream » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:20 pm

Rachel, it is a very long and complex history as to what happened when you came to the board. You know this as well as I do.

Facts are, when I said something about you spreading disinformation and it was pointed out to me that since you were a poster here on this board this was in violation of the guidelines, I acknowledged my mistake, changed my behavior, and removed the offending verbiage. Later I did indeed offer you an apology, and sincerely wished you well in the quest to get justice for your father's murder. I meant it, too.

Now the shoe is on the other foot. Dr. Doogie and you have both violated a guideline of this board by making disinfo accusations. I hope that you will both admit to your mistakes and change your behavior.
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Postby desertfae » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:32 pm

American Dream wrote:Dr. Doogie and you have both violated a guideline of this board by making disinfo accusations. I hope that you will both admit to your mistakes and change your behavior.


Where have I said "so and so is spreading disinformation"?
I also would like to know the answer to my above questions? Is it ok for someone to spread lies and we shouldn't call them on it?
Well, hey, if that's the case....

Did you know I have a pink unicorn hiding in my garage??? You know, that unicorn was a witness too, and is a main part of the conspiracy. My unicorn tells me (oh yea, I forgot to mention, it can talk too!) names of others involved too, and btw, one is an actress!! wow, did you know that??

Now, don't call me on it, because it's not in the guidelines.. I'm sticking to my story here about my unicorn. :lol:
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Postby American Dream » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:41 pm

desertfae wrote:
Is it ok for someone to spread lies and we shouldn't call them on it?


My interpretation of the guidelines is that it is fine for you to say something isn't true if it's not. What you shouldn't do- as I understand it- is accuse somebody of being a disinfo agent, or of deliberately spreading disinfo for any reason.

If you haven't checked out the guidelines, there are parts posted in several places- you both should really check them all out for yourselves:

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=12637

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=8705

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=9030



and less relevant to your and Dr. Doogie's posts:


http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=25886

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=17930

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=12904
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Postby barracuda » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:51 pm

The spectacle of American Dream citing board rules after his behaviour on these Alavarez threads is really beyond the pale. You can stop anytime now, dude, and quit playing toy admin. It's not only boring as hell, its just a tiny bit nauseating.
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Postby desertfae » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:53 pm

American Dream wrote:What you shouldn't do- as I understand it- is accuse somebody of being a disinfo agent, or of deliberately spreading disinfo for any reason.

Ok, where have I said "you are a disinfo agent" or "You're deliberately spreading disinfo"?

My pink unicorn "Fluffy" and I thank you :jumping:
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Postby American Dream » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:58 pm

desertfae wrote:
Dr_Doogie wrote:
Conversely, ninty percent of what KD and VM write may be true, but it is the other ten percent that concerns me. The NMN site provides much more information about certain cases than the mainstream media, but I believe that the offending ten percent is designed to shape public perception of these events in a manner to ultimately distort reality.


Don't give them so much credit lol. 90% for truth is rather high.


I'd call this ratifying Dr. Doogie's accusation of deliberately spreading disinfo.



As I said previously:

Facts are, when I said something about you spreading disinformation and it was pointed out to me that since you were a poster here on this board this was in violation of the guidelines, I acknowledged my mistake, changed my behavior, and removed the offending verbiage. Later I did indeed offer you an apology, and sincerely wished you well in the quest to get justice for your father's murder. I meant it, too.
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Postby barracuda » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:02 pm

I wouldn't even call Dr, Doogie's statement a violation, much less desertfae's comment upon it.
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Postby desertfae » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:05 pm

BTW AD,
I figure since I've spilled the beans on my little friend Fluffy, that I'd show you a picture of him.
Oh, and I forgot to mention, he knows one of these people is an actress too because he's an actor on the side!! You can see his movies here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaCCkfjPm0o

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Postby American Dream » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:14 pm

barracuda, please look to the top of this page and you will see what I initially posted about the guidelines:
Some of the folks on this thread may not have ever read the posting guidelines, so I am repeating this excerpt for their benefit.


This was phrased as it was just to bring the guidelines to the attention of people who may not know about them. I did not name any names, and I did not point to any posts might have veered in that direction. This was very deliberate on my part and I hope you will give me the respect of looking with an open mind at what actually happened on this page.

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Postby barracuda » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:20 pm

What I see in looking over the last page or so is that you have successfully disrupted the thread.
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Postby desertfae » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:23 pm

barracuda wrote:What I see in looking over the last page or so is that you have successfully disrupted the thread.

Don't be too hard on AD, if it weren't for the disruption, I wouldn't have went public with my hidden pink unicorn :lol:
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Postby desertfae » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:29 pm

American Dream wrote:
American Dream wrote:Now the shoe is on the other foot. Dr. Doogie and you have both violated a guideline of this board by making disinfo accusations. I hope that you will both admit to your mistakes and change your behavior.


I did not name any names, and I did not point to any posts might have veered in that direction. This was very deliberate on my part and I hope you will give me the respect of looking with an open mind at what actually happened on this page.

Thanks,

A.D.

You didn't huh?
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Postby desertfae » Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:32 pm

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