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Postby Nordic » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:59 pm

May 1933: Hitler Abolishes Unions

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On May 2nd, 1933, the day after Labor day, Nazi groups occupied union halls and labor leaders were arrested. Trade Unions were outlawed by Adolf Hitler, while collective bargaining and the right to strike was abolished. This was the beginning of a consolidation of power by the fascist regime which systematically wiped out all opposition groups, starting with unions, liberals, socialists, and communists using Himmler’s state police.
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:12 pm

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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby 23 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:15 pm

Make sure that you check-out the Walker Prankgate post... four posts back.

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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby Nordic » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:23 pm

http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/ ... nti-union/


Fox reverses poll results to portray public as anti-union

Posted on 02.23.11

A new poll was released Wednesday showing the public strongly supports union bargaining rights by a two-to-one margin. The Fox News Channel’s “Fox and Friends” program displayed and voiced the results of the poll backwards, in a way that depicts the public as strongly opposed to unions.

Could this be another “honest mistake” by the conservative network? Or something else?

This is how the poll results were displayed by Fox


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Postby American Dream » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:28 pm

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Scott Walker tricked into spilling his guts to fake Koch brother

Cory Doctorow at 9:19 AM Wednesday, Feb 23, 2011




The editor of The Buffalo Beast, Ian Murphy, called Wisconsin governor Scott Walker pretending to be billionaire financier David Koch, a major Tea Party financier. Murphy talked for 20 minutes with Walker, during which time Walker revealed that he was considering sending provocateurs to disrupt the protestors fighting his anti-union law. He also reveals a dirty-trick plan to trick Democrats into a procedural trap that would allow his legislation to pass.

They can recess it... the reason for that, we're verifying it this afternoon, legally, we believe, once they've gone into session, they don't physically have to be there. If they're actually in session for that day, and they take a recess, the 19 Senate Republicans could then go into action and they'd have quorum because it's turned out that way. So we're double checking that.If you heard I was going to talk to them that's the only reason why. We'd only do it if they came back to the capitol with all 14 of them. My sense is, hell. I'll talk. If they want to yell at me for an hour, I'm used to that. I can deal with that. But I'm not negotiating.
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:03 pm

This is good


An Open Letter to Public Employees and Their Unions, From Formerly Unionized Private-Sector Workersby David Benjamin
Dear Freeloaders:

Our lives suck.

We want yours to suck, too!

Our political outlook was ably articulated in recent interviews in Janesville, Wisconsin by the New York Times. There, A.G. Sulzberger and Monica Davey found cashiered ex-union members eager to condemn public employees now fighting in Madison to protect their collective bargaining rights. Lucky for us, these crack reporters from New York City don’t know that Janesville is locally regarded as the “Mississippi of Wisconsin,” a town that drew a red line through the middle of Rock County a century ago and spent generations battling tooth-and-nail to keep the black folks in Beloit from moving ten miles north and ruining their lily-white neighbourhoods. Sulzberger and Davey would have ruined their story by pointing out that Janesville is a longstanding bastion of right-wing reaction and bourgeois bigotry.

Like the white traditionalists of Janesville, we — the castoffs of General Motors and the casualties of Reaganism — have embraced a zero-sum world. We believe that if something good happens to someone else, that good something was taken from us.

We believe that if we can’t have it, you shouldn’t have it, either. Your good fortune is our misfortune. Your success is our grudge.

The only satisfaction left to us is to destroy you. Your destruction does us no good, but it will make you just as miserable as we are. And that will make us smile.

Lucky for us, there are powerful forces contributing to your doom. We know these forces, because they crushed us first. A rich and mighty few — every one a Republican (like us) — have systematically offshored our jobs, hollowed American industry, played craps with the U.S. economy, busted our unions and waged a relentless, ruthless war against organized labor. Knowing we are powerless against these forces of organized wealth, we have gone over to them — not as equals, of course. We speak for them. We dress up in funny hats and carry misspelled slogans on their behalf. They point to us, their foils, and call themselves, by association, “populist.” In return, some — but not all — of us receive the odd handout, or perhaps a comic, pathetic moment on YouTube.

We know that none of the “real money” hoarded by organized wealth will trickle down to us. That’s not the point. By taking away our rights to bargain, to negotiate, to discuss our working conditions, to fight for our jobs, to retain our dignity and to bestow hope on our children, organized wealth has left the post-union working class without pride or aspirations. We envy, revere, ogle and parrot the rich but harbor no illusions of ever becoming rich ourselves. We have become — as we were three centuries ago — peasants, beholden totally to the commands and caprices of “lords” who have no concept of how we live, who often wonder why we even bother to live.

We share our degradation with the public flunkies of organized wealth, among them Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin, and Congressman Paul Ryan, a favorite son of, yes! Janesville. But these two lickspittles are more degraded, after a fashion, than we.

Walker and Ryan are not draftees in the war on fairness. Gladly, they volunteered to dirty their hands on the foul chore of eviscerating organized labor, justifying the redistribution of wealth upward to the super-rich and outward, toward Wall Street, Switzerland, and the tax-shelter islands. They are the lockstep noncoms of a swollen oligarchy that relentlessly hunts down and kills every lingering vestige of workers rights — affordable health care, pension plans, a steady paycheck, negotiated raises, paid vacation, the five-day 40-hour week, overtime, protection from industrial accidents, horny bosses, vindictive managers, office politics and discrimination in the workplace. Scott Walker believes in the American dream of upward mobility. But not for us.

The political servants of the high and mighty, these Boehners and Becks, these Pauls and Palins, herald a new American gospel of downward expectations. They point out The Other and obediently, we fear The Other. We revile and deny the poor. We despise the comfort of a prosperous neighbor and we work to ruin him. But even as we hate our neighbor, we kneel in humble tribute to the billionaire whose fortress is so far from our neighborhood that it’s usually in a whole different country.

We know that labor’s last redoubt is you, the unionized public workers of America. We know that life for you is a little better than it is for us, who either surrendered our power willingly, or had it torn from us by sociopathic prigs like Scott Walker.

We want you to give up. We know your defeat will not better our hopeless lives. We know that whatever shreds of wealth accrue to your destruction will go straight up the pipe to the lobbyists of K Street and the deposit boxes of Zurich. We know that you will get less, and we will get nothing. We know that, after promises by organized wealth that your sacrifices will save your jobs, you’ll lose your jobs — just as we before you were promised security and screwed the next morning… before breakfast.

We despise you, because you remind us of ourselves before we sold our souls for a mess of pottage, because you have what we gave up. We resent you, because what we gave up is so little compared to the treasure, the excess, the triumph and the towering smugness of those who took it from us.

We know who you are — teachers, firefighters, foresters, cops, nurses — honest people making a living. We know you don’t have much, and we know you are engaged in an uphill struggle to hold on for dear life. But we want you, like us, to let go.

We want you, like us, to despair. We want you to honor the thieves who stole our work, foreclosed our houses, mortgaged our children and blighted their future.

We don’t want your life to be the least bit dear. We would prefer it — and we will vote for it — to be like our lives, in a world without industry, without unions, without solidarity and without brotherhood: “… solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short.”


David Benjamin is a novelist and journalist. Originally from Madison, Wisconsin and a graduate of Beloit College, he now lives in Brooklyn. He is the author of The Life and Times of the Last Kid Picked. His latest book, released in 2010 by Tuttle Publishing, is SUMO: A Thinking Fan's Guide to Japan's National Sport. He blogs at http://benjaminsmess.blogspot.com/
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby nathan28 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:36 pm

From the "I've Got That 'I Can't Believe I Dated You' Feeling But I Guess Things Were Different In The '90s" File:

Jim Goad goes anti-union


Answer Me! was awesome. I liked the Redneck Manifesto. But between hating on SHARP and hating on unions, Goad is now officially irrelevant and full of shit. Also I feel really fucking old, like I should go listen to Mazzy Star and think about all the good times I let pass me by. Or go rescue more cats from the pound.
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby kool maudit » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:36 pm

creative, interesting guys are not always left-wing.

isn't there anyone you admire whose politics remain the opposite, or the near-opposite, of your own?
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby justdrew » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:57 pm

nathan28 wrote:From the "I've Got That 'I Can't Believe I Dated You' Feeling But I Guess Things Were Different In The '90s" File:

Jim Goad goes anti-union

Answer Me! was awesome. I liked the Redneck Manifesto. But between hating on SHARP and hating on unions, Goad is now officially irrelevant and full of shit. Also I feel really fucking old, like I should go listen to Mazzy Star and think about all the good times I let pass me by. Or go rescue more cats from the pound.


Jim goad was always a racist woman beating piece of human filth. Someday some SHARP's just might finish him off if we're all lucky. then draw some shitty black and white pictures of the gore and title it, "ok. did you like my answer"

BTW - I have an original compilation book of A.M.

right wing hate machine, that's all he ever was.
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby Nordic » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:09 pm

kool maudit wrote:
isn't there anyone you admire whose politics remain the opposite, or the near-opposite, of your own?



Yes, but I see them as functionally delusional.
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby kool maudit » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:30 pm

fair enough. where politics are concerned, it's often cognitive dissonance to entertain the two opposing worldviews.

re: jim goad, i've always found him far funnier than the sort of people who tend to denounce him.

that's enough for me.
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:41 pm

seemslikeadream wrote:This is good

An Open Letter to Public Employees and Their Unions, From Formerly Unionized Private-Sector Workersby David Benjamin
Dear Freeloaders:

Our lives suck.

We want yours to suck, too!


That was great - fuck, I was just joking about this.

But this - this! -

THIS!!! - IS AWESOME!!!

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Scott Walker tricked into spilling his guts to fake Koch brother

Cory Doctorow at 9:19 AM Wednesday, Feb 23, 2011




[i]The editor of The Buffalo Beast, Ian Murphy, called Wisconsin governor Scott Walker pretending to be billionaire financier David Koch, a major Tea Party financier. Murphy talked for 20 minutes with Walker...


And it's amazing, from the first moment, when you can hear Walker restraining his THRILL that he's getting a call straight from THE Koch and not an underling, like himself. "Hey, David, I'm GOOOD- and yourself?!"

Salon and other pubs have confirmed with Walker's office that it was, yes, Walker!

And no matter what nonsense "Koch" says -- "like we pay hobos to be protesters" or "let's crush that union!" or "bring a baseball bat!" "We sent Andrew Breitbart down there, he's our man" "Axelrod... that son of a bitch!" -- Walker laughs and approves and goes right back to babbling on endlessly in exchange for minimal prompts from "Koch," explaining everything in his thinking and strategy, too happy to accommodate.

Wow. If anything in the media's going to be a "game changer" this should do it. If if if.

Don't take anything I say as a substitute - gotta hear this!

"Koch" says, "What else can we do for you?" Walker tells a story why protests don't matter, he has the silent majority of the state on his side. Kock suggests "planting some trouble-makers" in the protest. Walker: "We thought about that but the only problem... is the public is not really fond of this [the protests]. If there was a ruckus, that might scare the public to say the governor should settle to avoid problems."

I got the impression that "Koch" could have kept Walker going for another 10 or 20 minutes but the impersonator was losing his nerve after keeping him running off at the mouth for 20 already, completely oblivious.

Walker concludes with a peroration in honor of Ronald Reagan and the great moment in history when he fired the PATCO air traffic controllers, which was the first moment, no joking, in "bringing down the Berlin Wall" because it "showed those Commies" that Ronald Reagan was not someone who would ever back down.

Seriously.

Walker: "Thanks for all the support and moving the cause forward! ... Thanks a million!"

There will probably be a full transcript soon...

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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby justdrew » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:49 pm

kool maudit wrote:fair enough. where politics are concerned, it's often cognitive dissonance to entertain the two opposing worldviews.

re: jim goad, i've always found him far funnier than the sort of people who tend to denounce him.

that's enough for me.


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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby kool maudit » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:51 pm

the exception that proves the rule?
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