'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:47 pm

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Aug. 2, 2010


EPA Releases Second Phase of Toxicity Testing Data for Eight Oil Dispersants

WASHINGTON —The US Environmental Protection Agency today released peer reviewed results from the second phase of its independent toxicity testing on mixtures of eight oil dispersants with Louisiana Sweet Crude Oil. EPA conducted the tests as part of an effort to ensure that EPA decisions remain grounded in the best available science and data.

EPA’s results indicate that the eight dispersants tested have similar toxicities to one another when mixed with Louisiana Sweet Crude Oil. These results confirm that the dispersant used in response to the oil spill in the gulf, Corexit 9500A, when mixed with oil, is generally no more or less toxic than mixtures with the other available alternatives. The results also indicate that dispersant-oil mixtures are generally no more toxic to the aquatic test species than oil alone.

“EPA has committed to following the science at every stage of this response - that’s why we required BP to launch a rigorous dispersant monitoring program, why we directed BP to analyze potential alternatives and why EPA undertook this independent analysis of dispersant products,” said EPA Administrator Lisa P. Jackson. “We have said all along that the use of dispersant presents environmental tradeoffs, which is why we took steps to ensure other response efforts were prioritized above dispersant use and to dramatically cut dispersant use. Dispersant use virtually ended when the cap was placed on the well and its use dropped 72 percent from peak volumes following the joint EPA-U.S. Coast Guard directive to BP in late May.”

The standard acute toxicity tests were conducted on juvenile shrimp and small fish that are found in the gulf and are commonly used in toxicity testing. The tests were conducted on mixtures of Louisiana Sweet Crude Oil and eight different dispersant products found on the National Contingency Plan Product Schedule – Dispersit SPC 1000, Nokomis 3-F4, Nokomis 3-AA, ZI-400, SAFRON Gold, Sea Brat #4, Corexit 9500 A and JD 2000. The same eight dispersants were used during EPA’s first round of independent toxicity testing.

All eight dispersants were found to be less toxic than the dispersant-oil mixture to both test species. Louisiana Sweet Crude Oil was more toxic to mysid shrimp than the eight dispersants when tested alone. Oil alone had similar toxicity to mysid shrimp as the dispersant-oil mixtures, with exception of the mixture of Nokomis 3-AA and oil, which was found to be more toxic than oil.

While there has been virtually no dispersant use since the well was capped on July 15 – only 200 gallons total applied on July 19 – EPA’s environmental monitoring continues.

EPA required rigorous, ongoing monitoring as a condition of authorizing BP’s use of dispersant in the gulf. Dispersants prevent some oil from impacting sensitive areas along the gulf coast. EPA’s position has been that BP should use as little dispersant as necessary and, on May 23, Administrator Jackson and then-federal on-scene coordinator Rear Admiral Mary Landry directed BP to reduce dispersant usage by 75 percent from peak usage. EPA and the Coast Guard formalized that order in a directive to BP on May 26.

Before directing BP to ramp down dispersant use, EPA directed BP to analyze potential alternative dispersants for toxicity and effectiveness. BP reported to EPA that they were unable to find a dispersant that is less toxic than Corexit 9500, the product then in use. Following that, EPA began its own scientific testing of eight dispersant products.

EPA released the first round of data – on the dispersant products alone – on June 30. Today’s results represent the second and final stage of the independent acute toxicity tests.

View the toxicity test results: http://www.epa.gov/bpspill/dispersants

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Nordic » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:28 pm

http://motherjones.com/environment/2010 ... ower-plant

BP Scores Stimulus Cash



The oil spill bad guys are collecting millions in taxpayer bucks to build a new power plant in California.

— By Will Evans

Wed Aug. 4, 2010

The federal government is giving a joint venture involving oil giant BP millions of dollars in stimulus money to build a power plant on farmland near the tiny Kern County town of Tupman, even as the company faces heavy government pressure and a criminal probe into the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

BP is benefiting from a $308 million federal grant over several years for the cutting-edge power plant on cotton and alfalfa fields seven miles from the western edge of Bakersfield. More than half of the money, $175 million, is coming from stimulus funds. The rest is coming from another federal program.

The stimulus portion alone ranks as the second biggest award in California to a corporation and among the largest in the country benefiting private interests, according to data reported to the government by stimulus recipients.

The US Department of Energy announced the grant last year to Hydrogen Energy California, a joint partnership of BP and the multinational mining firm Rio Tinto, and has paid out $13.6 million so far. The money continues to flow even as the Obama administration bills BP for the massive costs of the oil spill.

"If you're trying to get money out of them, why are you giving them money?" said Tom Frantz, a local environmental advocate and part-time almond farmer who opposes the power plant. "If I was the government right now, I would not give BP $300 million to do anything."

The stimulus award highlights the disconnect that occurs when the government gives grants and contracts to companies it has fined or prosecuted. BP, for example, had been fined hundreds of millions of dollars and pleaded guilty to criminal environmental violations before the Gulf spill and before receiving stimulus money.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby justdrew » Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:15 pm

something needs to change with corporate law (no surprise there). There's no point in screwing BP shareholders messing up what could be a fine and constructive business. There needs to be a way to go after the leadership that consistently chose to cut corners and generally be a bad player. There are individuals responsible who made bad decisions and they should be the ones paying most dearly.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 82_28 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:36 pm

I hear what you're saying justdrew. But fuck the shareholders. It's what they invested in and this is their investment. This is just the nature of the beast. Fuck the investors.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby undead » Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:54 pm

All eight dispersants were found to be less toxic than the dispersant-oil mixture to both test species.


Great, that makes it sound so much better. It's a good thing BP hired all those PR people to make us feel better about this whole thing.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Nordic » Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:59 am

82_28 wrote:I hear what you're saying justdrew. But fuck the shareholders. It's what they invested in and this is their investment. This is just the nature of the beast. Fuck the investors.



I'm with you. Wall Street is 100% amoral. They knew what they were buying, they just didn't care. So to hell with them.

If you're gonna be amoral in your investment decisions, then you deserve to go down with the ship.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Jeff » Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:26 pm

'Death Gyre' in the Gulf

Firsthand accounts and leaked photos of a secret BP processing facility -- possibly for dead animals -- point to a massive cover-up in the Gulf. An exclusive report.

Tue, Aug 03 2010 at 11:28 PM EST

...

Since no one has yet been able to get this individual to go on record (and the Facebook post was eventually taken down) this can't be taken as hard evidence, but it does beg the question ... just how many animals have died because of the worst oil spill in U.S. history?

According to the latest count of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's Daily Collection Report (PDF), only about 4,100 birds, 670 turtles, 70 sea mammals, and 1 snake have died in the Gulf since April 20 (assuming 50 percent mortality of live animals).

It's an astonishingly low number, considering that one of the largest pods of sperm whales in the U.S. resided just miles from the site of the BP Macondo well (aka Deepwater Horizon), a region home to one of the most abundant and biodiverse marine ecosystems in the world.

Compare those small numbers with the Exxon Valdez spill ... Best estimates put the toll of the far smaller oil spill in Alaska at more than 200,000 birds (including hundreds of eagles), more than 3,000 sea mammals, more than 20 whales, and billions of fish eggs. The accident permanently wiped out the herring population of this Alaskan Gulf region. And that was an accident 1/10th the size of the Deepwater Horizon.

The final tally of the BP oil spill is almost 5 million barrels of crude, compared to only about 500,000 barrels for Exxon Valdez — a 1:10 ratio. Yes the Alaska spill happened closer inland, but the oil was not fully integrated with the water column as in the BP gusher (a far more pervasive and deadly scenario) and neither were thousands of tons of highly toxic dispersants like Corexit, a chemical that has, ironically, been banned in Britain because of its impacts on wildlife and human health.

One would be forgiven then for assuming there should be a far greater body count than what is currently being reported by the Fish and Wildlife Service, the same government office that famously blocked Anderson Cooper from peering past the 10' high barricades that had been put up to enclose a "bird receiving" area. According to the math, the count should be in the hundreds of thousands of dead birds, tens of thousands of sea mammals, and millions upon millions of fish and shellfish. So where were all the dead bodies? We should be seeing something like the mass dolphin kill off the coast of Zanzibar (left) that resulted from a much smaller offshore oil leak.

Is it possible that a massive cleanup operation in early June was focused on collecting dead animals out at sea in naturally forming "death gyres?" According to marine toxicologist Riki Ott, such gyres of dead and dying animals were common for weeks after the Exxon Valdez spill. And we know that BP was doing everything in its power to keep dead animal photographs out of the press. Kate Sheppard and Mac Mclelland of Mother Jones documented several instances of BP actually barring photography of dead animals on public beaches.

I received two firsthand accounts indicating that some sort of processing operation was taking place —one from Alabama (a rig operator contracted to work in an abandoned Navy yard) and one on Grand Isle — both reporting the construction of highly secured, nearly militarized ports that had been converted into "waste processing" areas.

More distressing than the media blackout itself was a lingering question in my mind ... what on earth could be so BAD that the U.S. government would risk losing credibility in the minds of journalists, the scientific community and the general public to ensure concealment? Was the sea floor cracking? Was a giant cloud of benzene going to wipe out the Eastern Seaboard? Had Godzilla emerged from the sea to wreak havoc upon us all? One thing was clear ... we weren't getting the real story.

All manner of apocalyptic scenarios were running through my head that morning when by chance I received a very strange message that pointed to a less fantastic but equally horrific explanation. It was a text message that had been sent on a borrowed phone to a man's wife, a man who had just returned from what many are now calling the "Death Gyre." The message was e-mailed to a family friend who posted it on Facebook and it has since been recirculated. Here's the text (you will notice a few colloquialisms that are specific to Bayou talk) so read through the lines, and forgive the misspellings:

I have to write this mail on a new cellphone because they have taken our phones off us. people dont know how bad this oil is.. im working in the cleanup operation and we've all has to sign a legal paper that stops us from talking to anyone. im onshore now and cant tell you where but ive just finished a very long shift in the gulf and textin this....fast as i can. the military are watching us dolphins whales, seabirds fish are all floating dead on the surface of the water.. see more.. see more…boats helicopters are scooping them away dead and dying... Whales are being exploded by the military cause they cant be carried. dead bodys as far as the eye can see air smeling of benzene ..weve seen birds fall from the sky. workers falling sick we think some workers have died. my friends are hard oilmen it was ok to at the start but now we cry. dead sea life is as big as genocide you wont imagine

Since no one has yet been able to get this individual to go on record (and the Facebook post was eventually taken down) this can't be taken as hard evidence, but it does beg the question ... just how many animals have died because of the worst oil spill in U.S. history?


According to the latest count of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's Daily Collection Report (PDF), only about 4,100 birds, 670 turtles, 70 sea mammals, and 1 snake have died in the Gulf since April 20 (assuming 50 percent mortality of live animals).

It's an astonishingly low number, considering that one of the largest pods of sperm whales in the U.S. resided just miles from the site of the BP Macondo well (aka Deepwater Horizon), a region home to one of the most abundant and biodiverse marine ecosystems in the world.

Compare those small numbers with the Exxon Valdez spill ... Best estimates put the toll of the far smaller oil spill in Alaska at more than 200,000 birds (including hundreds of eagles), more than 3,000 sea mammals, more than 20 whales, and billions of fish eggs. The accident permanently wiped out the herring population of this Alaskan Gulf region. And that was an accident 1/10th the size of the Deepwater Horizon.

The final tally of the BP oil spill is almost 5 million barrels of crude, compared to only about 500,000 barrels for Exxon Valdez — a 1:10 ratio. Yes the Alaska spill happened closer inland, but the oil was not fully integrated with the water column as in the BP gusher (a far more pervasive and deadly scenario) and neither were thousands of tons of highly toxic dispersants like Corexit, a chemical that has, ironically, been banned in Britain because of its impacts on wildlife and human health.

One would be forgiven then for assuming there should be a far greater body count than what is currently being reported by the Fish and Wildlife Service, the same government office that famously blocked Anderson Cooper from peering past the 10' high barricades that had been put up to enclose a "bird receiving" area. According to the math, the count should be in the hundreds of thousands of dead birds, tens of thousands of sea mammals, and millions upon millions of fish and shellfish. So where were all the dead bodies? We should be seeing something like the mass dolphin kill off the coast of Zanzibar (left) that resulted from a much smaller offshore oil leak.

Is it possible that a massive cleanup operation in early June was focused on collecting dead animals out at sea in naturally forming "death gyres?" According to marine toxicologist Riki Ott, such gyres of dead and dying animals were common for weeks after the Exxon Valdez spill. And we know that BP was doing everything in its power to keep dead animal photographs out of the press. Kate Sheppard and Mac Mclelland of Mother Jones documented several instances of BP actually barring photography of dead animals on public beaches.

I received two firsthand accounts indicating that some sort of processing operation was taking place —one from Alabama (a rig operator contracted to work in an abandoned Navy yard) and one on Grand Isle — both reporting the construction of highly secured, nearly militarized ports that had been converted into "waste processing" areas.

EPA head Lisa P. Jackson mentioned on her Twitter feed June 11 feed that she was visiting a shipyard "...where the waste is managed." What exactly was the waste being processed? If it was just oil-soaked boom and contaminated sand bags, where were all the photo opps demonstrating BP's awesome progress in cleaning up the oil? It wasn't adding up. Then I got an e-mail with some interesting photos that were uploaded to Citizen Global, a crowdsourcing news platform, on their Gulf News Desk.

It was a firsthand account by an individual working in the Gulf, who reported...

... receiving unconfirmed confidential reports that BP is withholding information about fish kills including that of sperm whales, whale sharks, Blue-fin Tuna and other marine mammals. (…) Following up on these leads, recently I flew over the staging areas where the reports allege that BP has been engaged in these secretive operations. What I saw from the air over Shell Beach and Hopedale, Louisiana was what seemed to be military protected staging areas where whales could potentially be brought in from offshore, processed under huge white tents, then carted off in trash trucks owned by a collaborative of oil companies, including BP. I'm deeply concerned that BP has the power to put in place restrictions on... access to certain areas of the ever-growing BP drilling disaster location and will continue advocating for a change in this policy.

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby justdrew » Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:00 pm

that must be true.


folks, obviously we are nothing but slaves, best kept ignorant, to these scum. it is long past time to raise up and take their fucking heads
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Hugo Farnsworth » Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:01 pm

Off with their heads!

The top kill on the existing blown out well has me worried, rather than killing it with the relief wells. It might mean that BP is trying to salvage it for future production. Their cheapness stuns the imagination.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:48 pm

Hugo Farnsworth wrote:Off with their heads!

The top kill on the existing blown out well has me worried, rather than killing it with the relief wells. It might mean that BP is trying to salvage it for future production. Their cheapness stuns the imagination.


Thats what I was thinking Hugo. Its August and there is no mention of relief wells but plenty about the work on the capped well.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby justdrew » Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:53 pm

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/07/31/feds-cant-find-oil-but-satellite-photos-show-bp-gulf-oil-spill-covering-12000-square-miles/
The federal government and media is reporting that the BP gulf oil spill has disappeared but satellite photos show a slick covering over 12,000 square miles of the Gulf.

According to John Amos over at Sky Truth all of that oil that magically disappeared isn’t going away just yet.

Yesterday’s MODIS and RADARSAT images show something we didn’t expect: slicks and sheen spanning nearly 12,000 square miles. Based on other reports, and the recent trend on satellite images indicating steady dissipation of the surface oil slick, we are optimistically assuming that nearly all of this is very thin sheen.

Speculation: winds from Bonnie obliterated most of the thin sheen throughout the area; but since then, sheen has had time to “reassemble” into observable layers that noticeably affect the sunglint on MODIS images, and the backscatter on radar, but may not look like much to folks out in the Gulf on vessels or in low-flying aircraft. That’s our theory at this point. Chime in if you have other thoughts about what we’re seeing on these images...
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 82_28 » Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:00 pm

How much you wanna bet BP posts a profit this year?

"Despite the worst ACCIDENTAL (they love using that word now - ACCIDENTAL) oil spill in world history, BP managed to post a profit in some of their other sectors, such as green technologies. . ."

Wait for it.
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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 2012 Countdown » Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:20 pm

BP completes cementing Gulf oil well
Published: Thursday, August 05, 2010, 3:55 PM

Jaquetta White, The Times-Picayune
BP crews have finished cementing the blown out Macondo oil well in the Gulf of Mexico and are now monitoring it to assess the effectiveness of the procedure, the company said Thursday afternoon.
Kerry Maloney, The Associated Press
Coast Guard Rear Adm. Paul Zukunft looks out on the oil spill response in Barataria Bay on Thursday.
Crews began cementing the well Thursday morning after pumping it with heavy drilling mud Wednesday.
The procedure, called a "static kill," could permanently plug the well.
On Wednesday, crews forced a slow torrent of heavy mud down the broken wellhead from ships a mile above to push the crude back to its underground source. The cement was the next step in this so-called "static kill" and is intended to keep the oil from finding its way back out.
"This is not the end, but it will virtually assure us that there will be no chance of oil leaking into the environment," retired Adm. Thad Allen, who oversees the spill response for the government, said in Washington.
The progress was another bright spot as the tide appeared to be turning in the months-long battle to contain the oil, with a federal report this week indicating that only about a quarter of the spilled crude remains in the Gulf and is degrading quickly.
If the mud plug in the blown-out well is successfully augmented with the cement, the final step involves an 18,000-foot relief well that intersects with the old well just above the vast undersea reservoir that had been losing oil freely since the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded off Louisiana on April 20, killing 11 workers.
The hope has been to pump mud and possibly cement down the relief well after its completion later this month, supplementing the work in this week's static kill and stopping up the blown-out well from the bottom.
It could take at least a day for the cement pumped into the blown well to dry, and another five to seven days for crews to finish drilling the final 100 feet of the relief well. Then the pumping process in the relief well could last days or even weeks, depending on whether engineers find any oil leaks, Allen said.
Despite the progress on the static kill, BP executives and federal officials won't declare the threat dashed until they use the relief well -- though lately they haven't been able to publicly agree on its role.
Federal officials including Allen have insisted that crews will shove mud and cement through the 18,000-foot relief well, which should be completed within weeks. Crews can't be sure the area between the inner piping and outer casing has been plugged until the relief well is complete, he said.
But for reasons unclear, BP officials have in recent days refused to commit to pumping cement down the relief well, saying only that it will be used in some fashion. BP officials have not elaborated on other options, but those could include using the well simply to test whether the reservoir is plugged.
"We have always said that we will move forward with the relief well. That will be the ultimate solution," BP Senior Vice President Kent Wells said Wednesday afternoon. "We need to take each step at a time. Clearly we need to pump cement. If we do it from the top, we might alter what we do with the relief well, but the relief well is still a part of the solution. The ultimate objective is getting this well permanently sealed."
The game of semantics has gone back and forth this week, with neither yielding.
Allen clearly said again Thursday that to be safe, the gusher will have to be plugged up from two directions, with the relief well being used for the so-called "bottom kill."
"The well will not be killed until we do the bottom kill and do whatever needs to be done," he said, adding: "I am the national incident commander and I issue the orders. This will not be done until we do the bottom kill."
Whether the well is considered sealed yet or not, there's still oil in the Gulf or on its shores -- nearly 53 million gallons of it, according to the report released Wednesday by the Interior Department and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. That's still nearly five times the size of the Exxon Valdez spill, which wreaked environmental havoc in Alaska in 1989.
But almost three-quarters of the nearly 207 million gallons of oil that leaked overall has been collected at the well by a temporary containment cap, been cleaned up or chemically dispersed, or naturally deteriorated, evaporated or dissolved, the report said.
The remaining oil, much of it below the surface, remains a threat to sea life and Gulf Coast marshes, NOAA Administrator Jane Lubchenco said. But the spill no longer threatens the Florida Keys or the East Coast, the report said.
Some outside experts have questioned the veracity of the report, with at least one top federal scientist warning that harmful effects could continue for years even with oil at the microscopic level.
But Allen said the estimates are based on the best data scientists had available and that they could be "refined" as more research is completed.
"Models are an approximation of reality and are therefore never perfect," he said.
An experimental cap has stopped the oil from flowing for the past three weeks, but it was not a permanent solution.
The static kill -- also known as bullheading -- probably would not have worked without that cap in place. It involves slowly pumping the mud and now the cement from a ship down lines running to the top of the ruptured well a mile below. A similar effort failed in May when the mud couldn't overcome the flow of oil.
Contributing to this report were Associated Press writers Greg Bluestein and Harry R. Weber in New Orleans, Jennifer Kay in Pensacola Beach, Fla., Mary Foster in Grand Isle, Tamara Lush in Tampa, Fla., Annie Greenberg in Miami, and Jay Reeves in Birmingham, Ala.

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Re: 'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

Postby 2012 Countdown » Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:31 pm

All this happy talk from the Obama Administration is just too much. They are talking out of their asses and spinning upon spin.
They claim 75% has been recovered. Hey, can't see it! Its a miracle!

Things are definitely recovering/regrowing, but there is still a big mess out there and who the hell knows what is going on under the sea surface.
On the way to work this morning, local radio reported over 500 birds, turtles, etc. were recovered just yesterday. Most were dead, they said.
Some of this damage will not be able to be gauged for years.

For them to come out with a big PR move and trumpet 75% recovered is very annoying.

Local online poll:
Do you believe the government report claiming nearly 75 percent of the oil that spewed into the gulf is no longer there?
No ( 82% )
Yes ( 18% )

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Postby 82_28 » Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:40 pm

Things are definitely recovering/regrowing, but there is still a big mess out there and who the hell knows what is going on under the sea surface.
On the way to work this morning, local radio reported over 500 birds, turtles, etc. were recovered. Most were dead.
Some of this damage will not be able to be gauged for years.


I don't get, nor do I like, this random numbering of birds, turtles, fish, sea mammals shit. 500 fucking birds died in Seattle today too. In all of that vast expanse of sea, they just announce, "15 turtles today died". Impossible. But they've been doing it for some time now. 17 birds this. 2 dolphins that. Every night on the news. . .
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