True Detective on HBO

[IanEye]

You know, it’s funny how things never turn out the way you had ’em planned
The only thing we knew for sure about Errol Childress is that his name wasn’t Errol Childress
& you know there was somethin’ about you baby that I liked that was always too good for this world
Just like you always said there was somethin’ about me you liked that I left behind in the French Quarter

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[RocketMan]

Double post.

[RocketMan]

Yeah, Pizzolatto definitely has his shit together.

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watchi ... season-1/2

I keep thinking back to the interview we did before the season, and the moment when I was asking you about comparisons to other serial killer shows, and you said that you couldn't care less about serial killers. How seriously were we ultimately meant to take the actual Dora Lange investigation, and how much of it was just a line to hang the character examination on?

Nic Pizzolatto: I don't think it was an empty vehicle, is what I guess I would say there. I don't think it could have been just anything that these guys were working on. I think it's relevant that the person they're chasing is both the victim of an historical evil and the perpetrator of an historical evil. The killer in that way is a physical articulation of cultural aspects that have sat behind the scenes, even informing that polluted landscape that provides so much of the background. If you go from the idea of something being in its natural state and then being perverted, and that this particular villain, for lack of a better word, is a killer of women and children, and his methodology is intimately tied to a mythology of belief — I do think if you want to go back and watch 7 and 8, there's enough given in the fragments that everyone states, there's enough that you can actually piece together historically, how Sam Tuttle in the early '30s led to Errol Childress in the first decade of the new millennium. I would say it wasn't an empty vehicle at all. I think the killer, his methodology and his actual crimes were endemic, not only to our characters, but to the world we were dealing with. It wouldn't have worked to have a robbery that didn't get solved properly in 1995. There's almost a way that Cohle, Hart and Errol, these men are in some ways the creations of their fathers, if you pay attention to their backstories.

[8bitagent]

You should do a documentary short on the subject!

For a few years now I've been toying with the idea of trying my hand at video and this would be an interesting choice for a first effort.

That image is from the "Carcosa" maze complex the main killer creates leading to a sacrificial chamber.

I think I'll go back in the daylight.

Thought this was a pretty well done shot


Btw folks, is this the yellow king I presume?

[IanEye]

Btw folks, is this the yellow king I presume?

Nope.

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[RocketMan]

Btw folks, is this the yellow king I presume?

Nope.

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Loved the ending.

"This is a world where nothing is ever solved."

[Rory]

You should do a documentary short on the subject!

For a few years now I've been toying with the idea of trying my hand at video and this would be an interesting choice for a first effort.

That image is from the "Carcosa" maze complex the main killer creates leading to a sacrificial chamber.

I think I'll go back in the daylight.

Thought this was a pretty well done shot


Btw folks, is this the yellow king I presume?

Rust saw a stargate/portal in that room also - are we to conceive that as his hallucination or the hint of other powers at play?

[Luther Blissett]

Btw folks, is this the yellow king I presume?

Nope.

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The Yellow King is a sort of demon presence and the sort of readymade discreditation tactic used in satanic ritual abuse now.

[Luther Blissett]

I would like to link the True Detective subreddit to the Franklin Case today, because they displayed some quite adept investigative tics of their own in analyzing the show. I think some of them, now that the first season of a piece of media entertainment has ended, could be convinced to take on something real life that may have the power to potentially help someone.

Is there a single clean, well-presented, well-researched overview of the case that I could present as a gateway? I only know of the longer works or the more convoluted, complex, and (frankly) elitist overviews that almost seem set up to turn people away.

Conspiracy of Silence is probably the best intro to the case you can find.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asvl6kO1Vo8

Thanks. http://www.reddit.com/r/TrueDetective/c ... ases_just/

You'll have to pardon the elementary nature of my overview, errors, inaccuracies, or glaring oversight on my part. I tried to balance brevity and clarity (another reason why I like this place is the community's appreciation of thoroughness, something lacking elsewhere) in hopes of any kind of effectiveness there.

[Laodicean]

I gave you an upvote. Well done.

Michael Harney played the role of Geraci (the guy Rust and Marty show the video to at gun point on his boat; his Maserati sniped).

The "shit heel" also performed quite memorably as the character Steve in Deadwood.

[8bitagent]

As much as I had some issues with the episode, damn if there werent some memorable, creepy quote worthy moments

[kelley]

very well crafted. continuing in the tradition of 'the wire' et al, where the long form series usurps the narrative limits of the conventional film. there's good work being done here. as a type of meta-fiction, the series seemed unconcerned with 'originality' and i like that in a mainstream form of expression. the stylistic debts to lynch, fincher, and others were completely absorbed by the larger presentation, and this also served to make the gnarly material somewhat 'familiar' to a skeptical audience.

this leads me to ask the question: limited hangout? the novelty of this program draws viewers-- by all accounts it's been a sensation-- and the narrative introduces real content, normally effaced or hidden in the larger culture, as the stuff of fiction. i'm not saying this was the intention, and i do think this program was produced in good faith, but there's something inescapable for me about how ritual abuse etc would be read and interpreted today by a wider public, as opposed to just several months ago, before 'true detective' debuted. it's a normalization at work in the guise of entertainment.

[IanEye]

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Errol Childress was the caretaker of Carcosa for a long, long time.
One would imagine that a Yellow King would have a Gold Room somewhere in his palace.

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[Laodicean]

[IanEye]

Thanks. http://www.reddit.com/r/TrueDetective/c ... ases_just/

You'll have to pardon the elementary nature of my overview, errors, inaccuracies, or glaring oversight on my part. I tried to balance brevity and clarity (another reason why I like this place is the community's appreciation of thoroughness, something lacking elsewhere) in hopes of any kind of effectiveness there.

I hope you get some good feedback and info.
There seems to be a lot of chaff on reddit.