Successful Boston Marathon Psyop Captures RI

[seemslikeadream]

so it is acceptable here to call someone a motherfucker, disinfo agent or prick but not to tell someone to fuck off....I just want to get the rules straight. I actually don't like the word motherfucker or prick...I don't think I would ever call someone that but since I have been labeled a prick I just may want to act like one some day and use one of those words ...since Jack has shown I won't get suspended for it ..right?


calling someone a disinfo agent is still listed as a no no...should the rules be updated or has Jack got special dispensation


it seems calling someone a prick is pretty nasty I don't think I'd ever use that one but who knows


1. an all around fucktard, dickweed, assrat bastard, that can easily be mistaken for a boner-biting dick-fart fuckface.

2. a penis

3. derogatory term used to sum up the existance of a worthless asshole

4. A total asshole, jerk, or jackoff (or jagoff).

5. A guy's dick

6. Someone who is completely worthless. An ankle-biting, washed-up rat bastard you'd rather see tied to the back of a car and driven through the fast line than anywhere else.

7. Somebody so stupid it's painful to those around them.

8. A male bitch in the sense of an unpleasant, rude or nasty person.

9. a person who cares about themselves, and ONLY about themselves. a person who loves to play people, and doesn't feel even the tiniest bit bad about it when they break hearts. very manipulative. someone who just wants to get some, and will date multiple people at once. someone who will try to take someone's virginity by telling them they mean the world to them and that they like them so much, then plans to leave them after the deed is done. a worthless, lying, two faced, cheating sack of shit you don't even want to look at cause it makes you sick to your stomach.

10. a cocky asshole who gets on your last nerve. Is always in your/someone elses business. Usually a jock or popular guy.

[jingofever]

I do not think this crisis actor craze is a psyop, just the usual insanity that flourishes on the internet. The Sandy Hook "truthers" claim that photos show supposed dead victims alive after the shooting. It is an inversion of the thinking that goes on at the Doppelgänger and Identity Research Society. Did you know that Cameron Diaz was replaced in 1994 with a doppelgänger? They have the photos to prove it.

[8bitagent]

There definitely has 100% been proven to be "crisis actors", as 82_28. The "wag the dog" Kuwaiti ambassador daughter was definitely a crisis actor.

No she wasn't. She was a liar speaking what was later proven to be a lie in testimony. The term did not yet exist.

A "crisis actor" is a new category cooked up to accuse the victims of actual crimes of being fakes. Basically, anyone actually present at a mass murder, or related to one of the victims, is now going to be called by this name, in an obvious disinformation campaign that lives in a perfect symbiosis with the "skeptoids."

No one is safe from this accusation. Everyone is to be judged as deficient in depicting themselves. If they're too emotional, they're a crisis actor, but they're also a crisis actor if their affect is flat.

Here is a particularly disgusting example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkQeBfz0DtQ

I agree, I mean the term rubs me the wrong way. I just meant in the way 82_28 was discussing.

The first example of a crisis actor was a few years ago with the "Harley Guy". But truth be told I never saw evidence he was a plant. I think in any modern crazy event there will be a set of things
that will seem out of place or convenient but may have an innocent explanation. But yeah the fact these crisis actor/hoax youtube "documentaries" have hundreds of thousands of views makes me sick, and
further isolates genuine conspiracy research shows like Corbett Report and other more responsible youtube stuff(I feel)
The idea that that guy's unbelievably horrific blown off legs was "fake" during the Boston event makes me think it's a psychological case of people not wanting to believe something like that could happen

[JackRiddler]

so it is acceptable here to call someone a motherfucker, disinfo agent or prick but not to tell someone to fuck off...

It's simple, really. You came in here and lied, and derailed this thread. So stop lying about me, and I will be happy to ignore you for all eternity. Stop repeating the falsehood that I told you to kill yourself (I said that to slimmouse, not you, and I don't regret it). Stop complaining about bullshit, like that I used the editing period to get the OP I wanted, or that I'm therefore hiding what I said about chump (since that's still available). I don't care if you don't think the "crisis actor" disinfo is a problem. I don't care if you have more of a problem with me than with racist posts that should get chump banned. Just stop stalking the thread I started with 30 posts making up total bullshit about me. Then I won't care to respond with insults that may be mean, but aren't (factual) lies. Easy!

[JackRiddler]

Seems you are putting your Hegel to good use.

Oh, and isn't it also time to retire the illiterate Alex Jones version of Hegel, which is based on a total misunderstanding of Hegel by people who haven't read him and don't care?

[82_28]

How can she "lie" about you if she doesn't know you personally? A lie is something that I feel to be something that is made up. A lie isn't a feeling we have for one another.

For instance, I could tell a lie about myself, but say, Willow would know it was untrue because she knows me. That would be a lie given the rubric. However to accuse others of lies is stupid. And I know both of you aren't.

[JackRiddler]

How can she "lie" about you if she doesn't know you personally?

By making false claims about things posted on this site.

[BrandonD]

There definitely has 100% been proven to be "crisis actors", as 82_28. The "wag the dog" Kuwaiti ambassador daughter was definitely a crisis actor.

No she wasn't. She was a liar speaking what was later proven to be a lie in testimony. The term did not yet exist.

I think this is an area where some clarification might help, as it could be a point of confusion.

The ambassador's daughter didn't decide to make up a story on her own and everyone in power was just too gullible to know better, she was without a doubt coerced by TPTB to lie on camera with the specific intention of manipulating public opinion in order to bring about war. Perhaps she is not a "paid professional actor", but what she was doing was no different from acting - she was given lines and she said them - and it certainly reveals that people in power are willing to tell BIG lies on camera in order to manipulate the public.

If lying on camera will manipulate public opinion (which has been proven to be true), then any sensible person should recognize that powerful people will try it. The distinctive difference with the girl's testimony and some of the "crisis actor" scenarios, however, is that the girl's lie played a very large part in generating public support for war, and there doesn't seem to be a logical motive behind the words of many of these presumed actors. One would think that if those in power are going through the trouble of hiring actors to lie on camera, then one should be able to recognize some sort of pattern or motive behind these lies that falls in line with what we recognize as the goals of those in power.

There may be some people who've not yet followed this or that particular 'crisis actor' theory to it's logical conclusion as described above. But despite this, I don't consider it illogical in any way to harbor the suspicion that some people may be telling lies on camera on behalf of TPTB, since we have been shown without a doubt that:

1) Lying on camera works for manipulating public opinion

2) Those in power have no qualms with getting people, even little children, to say horrific and absolute lies on camera in order to get what they want

So let's rewind the clock for a moment. The ambassador's daughter just came forward on television and made her testimony about the babies being thrown from their incubators. Someone on the forum starts a thread accusing her of being a "crisis actor", since the scenario she was describing was indeed a crisis that involved young people dying, and she was in fact acting.

I would be interested in the opinions of those people here, would the above thread be a subject that we would support banning, since it is using this idea of "crisis actors"? Is it the term itself that is offensive? Because I can see how a person might consider that scenario to involve a "crisis actor", had the term existed at the time.

If the term itself is offensive because it brings up a bunch of "woo and nonsense", then maybe we should find a new term for civilians who lie on camera on behalf of power. Because I think there is every possibility that lying on camera will occur in the future if it serves the interest of power, and it would be a shame to shut out an entire area of investigation because a popular conspiracy term has dirtied the water for everyone.

It brings to mind the term "UFO", and the idea that an authority might be interested in a mystery or a possible crime, but as soon as the word "UFO" pops up then they think it is ridiculous and no longer take it seriously. The case might be legitimate, but no one in officialdom wants to touch that word with a 10 foot pole.

Lastly, I am not accusing anyone here of anything, I'm really just thinking out loud in the interest of my own clarification as much as anyone else's. Perhaps these words will help bring about a common agreement. Or at the very least, I can learn a few new insults to use at the horse track this weekend.

[Sounder]

Jlaw wrote....

Therefore, the crisis actors thing is a strong possibility, but it doesn't mean that these attacks don't happen, although it is possible, though less so, that one could stage a completely phony, fake attack; that would be much harder to pull off though. In my opinion, most of these things are heavily scripted and stage-managed all the way through, but the violence is probably real, although eventually . . . the state of the art in black ops could reach a point where they could make everything fake Phil Dick style.

You are not getting any brownie points for that one Jlaw, ha,ha.

I first saw the ‘crisis actor’ meme during the Occupy events. It was vid clip showing some staged activity, but the ‘revealing’ activity must have been released by the producers themselves. To me, the high production values were also an indicator of a govt. connected operation.

Functionally speaking, the psyop is working swimmingly.

It’s crafted around generating ambiguity in regard to the visual markers that we might take to be evidential, or not. Another function would be to distinguish between, profile and note the rhetorical techniques used to advance the positions of both social conformists and non-conformists.

A further function would be to try to reduce the loss of life in the (taken to be necessary) emotional entrainment operations that seem to be a feature of this decadent civilization.

Sure, as Hunter says, they don’t care about killing people, but dealing with grieving family members is another thing as they tend to be fairly determined in trying to find out what happened.


Jacks verbiage is not credible, at least to me, because when folk use poison pills as poison pills, like what American Dream does with Alex Jones, they are simply cashing in on the psyop.

[seemslikeadream]

This will be my last post in this thread

I am posting to refute Jack's accusation that I am a liar

I am not a liar....I am not a prick

I do want fair treatment here for all members of RI

All members of RI should be held accountable for their actions equally

You can attempt to bully me but I am not going away...you are not going to bully me into leaving like you have done to other members ..just because you don't like me doesn't give you the power to try and make me leave...get over it

I AM NOT LEAVING

Just because Jack throws a tantrum and threatens to leave here every time he's taken to task for breaking the rules (by members not mods) does not mean he should not follow the rules that everyone else here has to follow or be suspended, there are two people right now that have been suspended for saying far less than what Jack gets away with...I am tired of his bulling ..who the fuck does he think he is? I guess a member with special privileges.


this is old news but it is needed to defend myself from Jack's bullying and false accusations...and to show I am not the only one that Jack has bullied here

bhp has called me a drama queen ...well if so Jack got the runner up spot....he's second in line for that title...what's this if not OTT drama

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Re: Greenwald drops the bomb on government trolling of inter
Postby brekin » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:58 pm
I don't know how people can fail to see that a system staffed by individuals who think nothing of spying on individuals without their consent doesn't relate to the behavior of Jack's disregard for other people's well being. Someone who flippantly tells people to go kill themselves, repeatedly, all the while pulling out linguistic smoke bombs to justify his behavior and believing he is entitled to do so because he fancies himself a more mandarin caste of poster (and some apologists agree) is the same mindset that those in the intelligence community use to mind and mine "the dumb sheeple".

This isn't an Emily Post thing. Telling a poster, encouraging them to kill themselves is below baseline moral behavior. Allowing, rationalizing away such behavior at this level diminishes ones cred to do it a higher levels.

Am I equating Jack to the NSA, etc.? No, he doesn't have the reach or the ability. But I think he's shown he has the mindset. He also seems to have the institutional protection needed to get away with it and enough colleagues turning a blind eye or giving him the wink. No offense, but the majority of us will never have any influence on determining NSA or related policies. We do, however, have influence on how this forum is conducted. I know many would like to stay "on topic" but consider if someone had told you to go kill yourself, repeatedly and then there were no repercussions for this. How would that effect your ability to stay on topic?

I've spoke my peace on this. But here are the posts where JR Anakin went over to the dark side.

JackRiddler wrote:
This is also 100 percent out-of-your-ass reporting displaying total ignorance about Greece: "Tsipras is personally popular, and seems to be campaigning more on that than on his party's positions."

Now kindly die.

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JackRiddler wrote:
seemslikeadream » Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:59 pm wrote:does that mean jack can only tell long time members to kill themselves....


I don't know about that. Why don't you give it a try and see?

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JackRiddler wrote:
Whereas I invite you to do yourself a favor and kill yourself tonight.

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slimmouse » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:35 pm wrote:On edit. Im glad I caught that Ridllerism prior to it sinking into non-existence. The post has gone.

JackRiddler wrote:
Are you really this stupid, or this much of a liar? Which one is it? None of my posts are gone. They have not been censored, and I feel no need to edit anything I wrote. Here, again: Kill yourself. It's just about the most creative option available to you.

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Kill Yourself
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[NeonLX]

You know what I wish? No, of course you don't. So I'll tell you. I wish we had a forum or subforum for personal argument threads, to take them off of the general discussion forum.

If wishes were fishes, and all of that.

Carry on.

[BrandonD]

You are not getting any brownie points for that one Jlaw, ha,ha.

I first saw the ‘crisis actor’ meme during the Occupy events. It was vid clip showing some staged activity, but the ‘revealing’ activity must have been released by the producers themselves. To me, the high production values were also an indicator of a govt. connected operation.

Functionally speaking, the psyop is working swimmingly.

It’s crafted around generating ambiguity in regard to the visual markers that we might take to be evidential, or not. Another function would be to distinguish between, profile and note the rhetorical techniques used to advance the positions of both social conformists and non-conformists.

A further function would be to try to reduce the loss of life in the (taken to be necessary) emotional entrainment operations that seem to be a feature of this decadent civilization.

Sure, as Hunter says, they don’t care about killing people, but dealing with grieving family members is another thing as they tend to be fairly determined in trying to find out what happened.

I've certainly considered these points before, and they definitely seem within the realm of possibility. But it seems efforts toward equanimity and an open mind regarding events with major social impact is sometimes frowned upon here.

Jacks verbiage is not credible, at least to me, because when folk use poison pills as poison pills, like what American Dream does with Alex Jones, they are simply cashing in on the psyop.

I would appreciate it if you would elaborate on this point.

[Searcher08]

Jack IS a member with special privileges. Jack does NOT have to follow any rules here.
Jack is not the Messiah, he is just a very naughty boy. Sure, he regularly does say things that would get any other member permabanned. I think you get stressed out because you think RI is meant to be fair. It isnt. The purpose of a system is what it DOES, NOW...not what you wish it would or what it once did.

There are no rules for Jack and AD/Solace.
I do not have a problem with that. It is just the way it is and is not going to change here any time soon. If you disagree with Jack's caustic attitude, his Holy Righteous Anger, your only recourse is to put him on ignore. Or agree to his personalised re-education programme


Back to the OP...
Now Jack's comment about Crisis Actor as a term not existing until recently is bullshit, as a simple Google demonstrates otherwise. I am left wondering why a person who exclaims so vehemently about logic and reason would be so intellectually lazy that they just, how to say this delicately, pull stuff out of their ass like that?

Internal Constraints and Interstate Ethnic Conflict
Toward a Crisis-Based Assessment of Irredentism

David Carment
Norman Paterson School of International Affairs

Patrick James
Iowa State University

Abstract

Two theoretical orientations, the instrumental and affective, have purported to explain interstate ethnic conflict. This investigation provides an initial assessment of the ability of affective motivations to account for properties of international crises. The point of departure is a review of literature on international aspects of ethnic conflict. This exercise provides a context for comparison of the traits of irredentist and nonirredentist foreign policy crises. International Crisis Behavior Project data from 1945 to 1988 are used to test three propositions about this important type of interstate conflict. Initial results are favorable: crises within irredentist conflicts differ from others with respect to perceived gravity of threat, crisis management techniques, and severity of violence. Two of the differences become greater when internal constraint on a crisis actor's regime is introduced as an interactive variable. The investigation concludes with suggestions for further research.

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http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=P8cy ... or&f=false
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@NeonLX
I wish there was a space where constructive difference and civility was highly valued.
Projectile barfing under the guise of self-expression is very teenage. Crap behaviour even if wrapped in histrionic self-justification is still crap behaviour. In the non-virtual world, I prefer to ignore people who spit in my face, eat boogers and the like. Regardless of their occasional poetry...

[Hunter]

Crisis actor was not a regularly used term in the CT community until Boston/Sandy Hook/Aurora, never heard of it until then, that doesnt mean it didnt exist somewhere but it was not something that was used regularly like it is now. I have been reading everything under the sun wrt CT stuff for over 30 years and I have never seen it used like it is now. Perhaps I missed it in my readings but I can assure you I never seen it and I have followed shit very closely for a long, long time.

[Sounder]

BrandonD wrote...

I've certainly considered these points before, and they definitely seem within the realm of possibility.

I’ve been wondering why others have not posted to this effect.

But it seems efforts toward equanimity and an open mind regarding events with major social impact is sometimes frowned upon here.

We all live with some amount of tension between our subconscious knowing and our conscious modeling. Some try to learn from this, but the absolutist, someone that already knows, will more often use anger as their coping mechanism, (in order to protect and project ones self-identity)

Sounder » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:18 am wrote:Jacks verbiage is not credible, at least to me, because when folk use poison pills as poison pills, like what American Dream does with Alex Jones, they are simply cashing in on the psyop.

A poison pill is designed to attach and associate uncomfortable information with bad actors or ideas. Alex is a clearly bad actor, and anyone can know this 100% fur sure if they remember him ‘commentating’ at the republican convention several years back. Non cooperators do not get gigs like that.

Talk about symbiotic relationship, Jack and AD would have nothing without Alex or Morgan Reynolds.