Coercive Engineered Migration: Zionism’s War on Europe

[Joe Hillshoist]

SLAD The two books you posted look like they are great books and I'd like to read them. Gearóid Ó Colmáin is dodgy as all fuck tho:

And anyone concerned about the true victims of this kind of coercion—the displaced themselves.

I have not detected any concern in everything I've read so far from Henry Gibson or whatever his name is that resembles concern for any refugee entering Europe. At some point I'll go thru and quote what he writes about them from the first 5 or 6 articles.

[seemslikeadream]

Gearóid Ó Colmáin on the 10 000 refugee children who have gone missing since coming to Europe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_fRUr9k608

[seemslikeadream]

The mass exodus of migrants/refugees is a central part of the globalisation of class war in accordance with the Pentagon’s long term objectives of global hegemony or “Full Spectrum Dominance”. What we are dealing with here is a well-planned strategy of chaos



It's all ok at RI when you say it this way

Masters of Chaos


Is Open-Ended Chaos Desired US-Israeli Aim in Middle East?


and the fly by boys can tell it to the hand

here's something for your choler counterfeit crocodile tears

[Searcher08]

There's a lot of competition, but this thread is maybe the most disgusting in RI history, not so much because of the usual hardly-cloaked Jew-hatred driving it but because of the way that multiple core values and theories are being not just discarded but inverted in order to clear a path for the Jew-hatred.

I thought that already at the title - surely the most repulsive in history. Already tells enough. The Jews sending the Mooslims to rape our daughters, therefore make the Mooslims drown and kill the responsible liberals. Oh wait, it's okay to say all that because Soros. Let's just keep an open mind.

I just gave in and clicked this for the first time.

This place is turning less into a tinfoil complement to RevLeft than a leftist twin of Stormshit. Has it always been this way?

What do you mean, leftist? Just because you're on an anti-left kick now, don't confuse it. A lot of these guys who have taken over this board in the last year are Stormshit, isn't it kind of obvious? There are a couple of genuinely naive older members who buy into any crap that comes out, either out of constant blinding anger (who do I mean?) or because "open mind you never know reality's not what it seems I still hurt from being called a mean name 30 years ago, blah blah why not flat earth, etc." But fellow travelers, morons/dupes, submarines, no excuses. No really, no excuses. No one's this stupid. This is just the Euro-racist populist hate shit-mix rewarmed with a few RI cliches and pretend-Buddhist-mystical-astral-plane-love spritzed on as perfume.
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John Pilger on the international politics of bollocks
Supporters of the new US president refuse to admit that the "man of change" is, in fact, changing the truth.

http://www.newstatesman.com/north-america/2009/02/obama-pilger-israel-gaza

[Occult Means Hidden]

The mass exodus of migrants/refugees is a central part of the globalisation of class war in accordance with the Pentagon’s long term objectives of global hegemony or “Full Spectrum Dominance”. What we are dealing with here is a well-planned strategy of chaos



It's all ok at RI when you say it this way

So this is about America hatred/criticism and not Zionist-Jew hatred/criticism?

Zionism at its core - again - is about the establishment of Israel and the defense of its establishment despite international law violations. Anything else attributed to Zionism is either fantasy, embellishments or racist hatred, like trying to convince people that for some reason a certain class of evil Jews want to wage war on Europe when it makes no rational sense.

It's a bad angle.

[seemslikeadream]

the full quote is

It's all ok at RI when you say it this way

Masters of Chaos


Is Open-Ended Chaos Desired US-Israeli Aim in Middle East?

how about Henry Rollins's "diplomatic" decision OMH?....he really does know his stuff.

and all you cry babies...take it up with AD...he's been constantly advertising for them for over 8 years now......my links are not the ones they followed to get here

Israel Unleashes an Onslaught on Human-Rights NGOs, Artists, and Writers


The new wave of McCarthyite smears and repressive laws is unprecedented.

[tapitsbo]

Well I would certainly agree with some of what you said and so would O'Colmain

Zionists not existing is rich, especially from someone in the anglosphere like I am. How can you call anything bollox?

The combat operations in MENA are very much related to this thread.

Are places like Vietnam and Indonesia en route to collapse in the near future like much of europe and the middle east? I don't think so.

You talk about this stuff like you have a revenge fantasy about it. I can't stop you from having one but it is illustrative

Of what? That I'm an angry cunt? I don't think that's news to anyone that's posted here for the last 10 years.

Zionism is support for the ongoing existence of Israel. In any form. But that is all. If you are a supporter of Israel who happens to do something in the field of finance or whatever that screws people over or involves violence and conflict those actions suddenly aren't Zionism because of what you do in support of Israel. While originally it was a jewish nationalist movement with non jewish supporters, these days the term can be used to cover anyone who supports the ongoing existence of Israel, jewish or not.

However upthread someone else tried to define Zionism as ... pretty much everything thats wrong with the world as caused by jews ... ok thats potentially harsh, maybe ... specifically by a whole lot of stuff that wasn't actually support for the continued existence of Israel.

Under that definition the word "Zionism" is inherently meaningless.

If you want to point out why something is Zionism you need to be able to show why it benefits the ongoing existence of Israel.

So why does the flooding of with suicide bombs Europe benefit Israel? How does "destroying Europe" benefit Israel? Or supporters of its ongoing existence in maintaining its ongoing existence?

Are you suggesting that a European nationalist backlash and the accompanying swing toward nationalist policies, one that could be violent, would in any way benefit Israel? if so do you even do history? Really why would you think that?

This has to be trolling, from both you and OMW.

Zionists are on the record supporting dodgy right-wing candidates from Donald Trump to Nigel Farage to Geert Wilders and beyond as well as "counter-jihad" racist movements. At the same time Israel co-operates closely with the actual jihadi attack on places like Syria (including bombing and annexing parts of Syria with their own military) and its mainstream establishment funds a whole ecosystem of NGO's that promote ethnonationalism for Israel and open borders for everyone else. It doesn't matter a whit if there are millions of jewish people who don't have this obnoxious attitude. The Zionist stranglehold on the west may be slowly, slowly declining but just look at how Clinton, Sanders, Trump, Rubio, Cruz are all beholden to it. Trying to smear efforts at transparency about this disproportionate, undemocratic, and massively harmful undue amount of influence as jew-hate is something that even Israeli hasbara has disavowed, as you can see in the screenshots conniption helpfully provided in the other thread.

American policies have harmed America so, no, nobody needs to show that Zionist policies "benefit Israel". In Canada I've met more than a few Israelis who've been more than happy to talk about how these policies are harmful to their own country.

I believe what I believe because it's backed up by evidence. What you guys are saying is backed up by nothing.

[Joe Hillshoist]

American policies have harmed America so, no, nobody needs to show that Zionist policies "benefit Israel". In Canada I've met more than a few Israelis who've been more than happy to talk about how these policies are harmful to their own country.

WTF In what way does flooding Europe with Refugees help Israel?

You've talked to Zionists who think Israel's current policies hurt Israel... interesting. Did you think of them as Zionists when you were talking to them?

Rupert Murdoch supports Israel. Does that mean everything he does is part of some Zionist conspiracy? What about his stance on global warming. (He pays lip service to its existence then fills his publications with denialist literature.) How is that Zionism?

There are descriptions of Zionism that range from esoteric occult practice, to globalism to people shifting the consequences of their actions elsewhere on this website in the last week. It gets conflated with corporate colonialism blamed for sunspots and shark attacks and yet no one is prepared to state the limits of what it is or how its actions support its aims.

It seems to be a catch all word for "unspeakable evul" and therefore if something is evul its somehow zionism.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Gearóid Ó Colmáin on the 10 000 refugee children who have gone missing since coming to Europe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_fRUr9k608

Gives lip service to their suffering says they are there with terrorists and then gets back on his high horse about the west. he uses the plight of those kids to push his barrow instead of actually giving a shit about their fate. having been involved with people who genuinely care about the suffering of children in detention in the pacific thanks to my lovely government i can tell the fucken difference. He's full of it.

It was interesting that the interviewer shut him down as soon as he mentioned pedophilia and the bbc tho.

[seemslikeadream]

Gearóid Ó Colmáin on The Debate: Islamophobia in Europe



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-elwzANaxI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4kTkHx3bAI

[Joe Hillshoist]

Part 1

migrants entering Hungarian territory illegally.

(refos or migrants? there is a difference but erasing it certainly suits racists.)

‘criminalise‘ illegal immigrants. It is indeed a strange country that would criminalize those who break its laws!

Hungary is a signatory to the 1951 Refugee convention therefore entering Hungary seeking refuge or asylum is not illegal.

Many of the youths attempting to get into Hungary could be used as a battering ram to destablize the Hungarian nation-state.

Won't somebody think of the children.

Austrian intelligence has reportedly revealed that US government agencies are funding the transfer of these refugees to Europe in an attempt to destabilize the continent. This new geostrategic initiative involves using desperate refugees as weapons for the purposes of US/Zionist divide and rule of the European continent.

Unsubstantiated allegation leads to introduction of the meme refugee = weapon. (Yes I've read the link it has no documentation of that allegation.)

France’s Radio Internationale has revealed that over 95 percent of migrants in the current flow into Europe are young males between 20 and 35 years old.

Yet on SLADs video interview with the guy he recognises that 25% of the refos are kids. So which is true Gearoid?

“All I can see are young men fleeing the war instead of defending their country”. So, why are there so few vulnerable women and children among the refugees escaping the war in Syria?

Thats exactly what the people who hate refugees in Australia say. So few women and kids or a quarter of them kids? Which is it?

The journey across the Mediterranean to Europe can normally cost up to 11,000 dollars, more money than most European workers manage to save from years of hard labour, yet we are told that millions of war-ravaged Iraqis and Syrians are suddenly able to pay this colossal sum to make the journey to Europe. How is this possible?

Repeating claims without checking their veracity or questioning them so he must be on the level.

In September a Hungarian camera woman was filmed tripping a refugee carrying a child at the Hungarian border. The video soon went viral. The camera woman is now taking legal action against the man she tripped as he has changed his story to the police. Petra Laszlo has claimed that she panicked as refugees began to charge towards her. There was much indignation in the politically correct corporate media. But Syrian patriots did some research on the Laszlo’s ‘victim’. The man’s name is apparently Osama Abdel-Muhsen Alghadab and he is a member of Japhat Al-Nosra, the Al-Qaida affiliated terrorist group that has massacred thousands of innocents in Syria.

This is not to suggest by any means that all of the refugees attempting to enter Hungary are terrorists.

She tripped a guy but he's a Mooslim turrist therefore Zionism. Not that they're all like that of course. Just the ones Gearhead constantly refers to. Not to mention the "Syrian patriots' - i wonder are they like all those Sri lankan patriots who identified refugees as members of the Tamil tigers to discredit any tamils escaping sri lanka and to enable the ongoing genocide during the last stages of that war.

In February 2011 Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi warned Europe about the danger of an invasion by migrants and, in particular, Al- Qaeda terrorists if he were to be overthrown.

So its all right if Gaddafi does it but Erdogan does it and that is proof of a conspiracy?

FFS.

[seemslikeadream]

thanks for the reply ...I appreciate you taking the time and that we can keep this a civil confrontation

[tapitsbo]

American policies have harmed America so, no, nobody needs to show that Zionist policies "benefit Israel". In Canada I've met more than a few Israelis who've been more than happy to talk about how these policies are harmful to their own country.

WTF In what way does flooding Europe with Refugees help Israel?

You've talked to Zionists who think Israel's current policies hurt Israel... interesting. Did you think of them as Zionists when you were talking to them?

Rupert Murdoch supports Israel. Does that mean everything he does is part of some Zionist conspiracy? What about his stance on global warming. (He pays lip service to its existence then fills his publications with denialist literature.) How is that Zionism?

There are descriptions of Zionism that range from esoteric occult practice, to globalism to people shifting the consequences of their actions elsewhere on this website in the last week. It gets conflated with corporate colonialism blamed for sunspots and shark attacks and yet no one is prepared to state the limits of what it is or how its actions support its aims.

It seems to be a catch all word for "unspeakable evul" and therefore if something is evul its somehow zionism.

I'd agree with you that the term is used sloppily; unfortunately it's necessary to use it in a more narrow context. I think we can make sense of Murdoch's ties to an imperialist war party that may contain people of different backgrounds, Arab, Anglo, Jewish, French, etc. More to the point states like Israel and Saudi Arabia are cases where this group has vehicles in states with very unusual policies. Certain policies are favoured, for example, in Israel that differ wildly from those that are by and large promoted elsewhere by the same group. I hope nobody would think it inaccurate to stress the close ties of the governments of Stephen Harper, David Cameron, George W. Bush, etc. to this group.

The Israelis (weird how you need to change my words) who I've met who have lamented these policies might be Zionists in the sense someone like AliceTheeKurious might use, believing that the state of Israel should exist (I myself am partly convinced of this) but they certainly seemed to express regret at the aggressively hypocritical, exceptionalist, war-mongering behaviour of the country's establishment.

Certainly there have been Zionist groups which were aggressively against migration to europe by refugees. I find the idea in O'Colmain's articles persuasive that these groups are to a certain extent one pincer of an aggressive divide-and-conquer policy. I appreciate you engaging with the article as it is no doubt not perfect. I for one find it refreshing in the way it bluntly is able synthesize info that is usual not wrapped up together.

I certainly find the idea of a Central European "Intermarium", exaggerating the current tendencies of the Polish and Ukranian governments, and dedicated to hostility against Russia to be less than ideal.

When the Turkish government holds European governments ransom over this long-foreseen "crisis" much hand-wringing can be gotten out of long hindsight back into history but it's important not to forget the immediate antecedents of the situation, like war in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

For what it's worth I'm looking at a map right now that shows Israel as a party to the 1951 Convention.

[Joe Hillshoist]

SLAD I listened to your video on islamophobia - when gearhead used the term "death cult" after referring to the bombing in Homs I switched off. This guy subtly reinforces islamophobia at every opportunity.

Part 2 (weaponisation of refos)

According to Bulgarian historian A, Eminov, civil wars in the Balkans in the 13th and 14th centuries led to significant population decline, which greatly facilitated colonisation of the Balkans by the Ottoman Empire. The deportation of nomads and organised transportation of Muslim refugees by the Ottoman Empire played a significant role in the colonisation of this region.
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Bulgaria has the highest number of mosques in Europe per capita.

The Muslims are at it again. #Islamophobia.

Then goes on to complain about Turkey wanting to invade Europe. Excuse me if I don't give a shit about a predominantly Muslim nation attacking Europe.

In the 19th century the British Empire organised the mass migration of Bengali Muslims to Burma to work plantations in the predominantly Buddhist Rakhine State. The purpose of the migration was to create an artificial ruling class that would depend on the protection of the British Empire. The result was more than a century of tension with the indigenous Buddhist inhabitants and the Muslim settlers, a tension that has led to the ethnic cleansing of today, whereby Takfiri fanatics, financed by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are committing genocide against local Buddhist peasants with the full complicity of ‘human rights’ organizations and the mass media as part of a US/Israeli geostrategic initiative to kossovise the Rakhine State by separating it from Myanmar, thereby securing a foothold for Western neo-colonial interests in the highly strategic Bay of Bengal. The so-called ‘Rohingya crisis’ attests to a new phase in imperialist policy; namely, the ruthless weaponization of the refugee.

Firstly the bengali muslims weren't refugees. But notice more islamopobia. "Takfiris are genociding Muslims in burma. because rohingas = genocide" FFS Does he have a clue what happening in s and SE Asia? he has just claimed the opposite of what is happening. Doesn't mention the Karen cos it doesn't suit his narrative. No sympathy for Rohingya people who are suffering terribly as refugees and in Burma.

The potential for conflict between a declining native population and an assertive, Muslim-dominated settler culture is great, particularly when this serves the interests of Europe’s ruling elite who are in cahoots with the Wahhabi sheiks of the Middle East. Whilst the people of the Global South are fleeing the consequences of European imperialism, the indoctrination of Wahhabi Islam among Muslim immigrants constitutes a serious impediment to an awakening of class consciousness necessary for the unification with non-Muslim natives against their internationalist bourgeois oppressors.

I'm just including this cos its an awesome* piece of writing. Especially the bit about Islam stopping the proletariat revolution.

A key figure in this criminal operation is a Nobel Prize candidate who goes by the name of “Father” Mussie Zerai, a phony Catholic priest who has been coordinating the smuggling of East Africans to Europe from war-torn Libya, earning him lots of cash, kudos and the epithet ‘Archangel of Refugees’. Zerai collaborates closely with Watch the Med.

It is impossible to tell if Watch the Med is receiving funding from captains of globalisation such as George Soros, but these European do-gooders would certainly deserve decent salaries from the Jewish oligarch.

"Do gooders". Great turn of phrase arsehole.

My understanding of Mussie is he is contacted by people on the Mediterranean in danger of drowning and informs European coastguards how to find them and save their lives. Is this not true? Doesn't watch the med prevent people from drowning in rickety boats as well? (Happy to be corrected on this basic fact if they don't actually do this.) Maybe Colmain would prefer people drowned quietly and he didn't have to hear about it.

While there are undoubtedly many women and children and innocent victims of NATO/Zionist fomented war among the flux of people migrating to Europe who deserve all the help they can get, it is deeply reactionary and dishonest to ignore the obvious instrumentalisation of migration by imperialism.

They are refugees not migrants, and while there are undoubtedly many women children and innocent victims in the 5% of refos who aren't secret muslim terrorists working for Israel, recognising they need help is deeply reactionary and dishonest. Plus "instrumentalisation of migration by uimperialism" - big words make it so.

The more I read this bloke the more annoying he gets.

[tapitsbo]

SLAD I listened to your video on islamophobia - when gearhead used the term "death cult" after referring to the bombing in Homs I switched off. This guy subtly reinforces islamophobia at every opportunity.

Part 2 (weaponisation of refos)

According to Bulgarian historian A, Eminov, civil wars in the Balkans in the 13th and 14th centuries led to significant population decline, which greatly facilitated colonisation of the Balkans by the Ottoman Empire. The deportation of nomads and organised transportation of Muslim refugees by the Ottoman Empire played a significant role in the colonisation of this region.
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Bulgaria has the highest number of mosques in Europe per capita.

The Muslims are at it again. #Islamophobia.

Then goes on to complain about Turkey wanting to invade Europe. Excuse me if I don't give a shit about a predominantly Muslim nation attacking Europe.

In the 19th century the British Empire organised the mass migration of Bengali Muslims to Burma to work plantations in the predominantly Buddhist Rakhine State. The purpose of the migration was to create an artificial ruling class that would depend on the protection of the British Empire. The result was more than a century of tension with the indigenous Buddhist inhabitants and the Muslim settlers, a tension that has led to the ethnic cleansing of today, whereby Takfiri fanatics, financed by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are committing genocide against local Buddhist peasants with the full complicity of ‘human rights’ organizations and the mass media as part of a US/Israeli geostrategic initiative to kossovise the Rakhine State by separating it from Myanmar, thereby securing a foothold for Western neo-colonial interests in the highly strategic Bay of Bengal. The so-called ‘Rohingya crisis’ attests to a new phase in imperialist policy; namely, the ruthless weaponization of the refugee.

Firstly the bengali muslims weren't refugees. But notice more islamopobia. "Takfiris are genociding Muslims in burma. because rohingas = genocide" FFS Does he have a clue what happening in s and SE Asia? he has just claimed the opposite of what is happening. Doesn't mention the Karen cos it doesn't suit his narrative. No sympathy for Rohingya people who are suffering terribly as refugees and in Burma.

The potential for conflict between a declining native population and an assertive, Muslim-dominated settler culture is great, particularly when this serves the interests of Europe’s ruling elite who are in cahoots with the Wahhabi sheiks of the Middle East. Whilst the people of the Global South are fleeing the consequences of European imperialism, the indoctrination of Wahhabi Islam among Muslim immigrants constitutes a serious impediment to an awakening of class consciousness necessary for the unification with non-Muslim natives against their internationalist bourgeois oppressors.

I'm just including this cos its an awesome* piece of writing. Especially the bit about Islam stopping the proletariat revolution.

A key figure in this criminal operation is a Nobel Prize candidate who goes by the name of “Father” Mussie Zerai, a phony Catholic priest who has been coordinating the smuggling of East Africans to Europe from war-torn Libya, earning him lots of cash, kudos and the epithet ‘Archangel of Refugees’. Zerai collaborates closely with Watch the Med.

It is impossible to tell if Watch the Med is receiving funding from captains of globalisation such as George Soros, but these European do-gooders would certainly deserve decent salaries from the Jewish oligarch.

"Do gooders". Great turn of phrase arsehole.

My understanding of Mussie is he is contacted by people on the Mediterranean in danger of drowning and informs European coastguards how to find them and save their lives. Is this not true? Doesn't watch the med prevent people from drowning in rickety boats as well? (Happy to be corrected on this basic fact if they don't actually do this.) Maybe Colmain would prefer people drowned quietly and he didn't have to hear about it.

While there are undoubtedly many women and children and innocent victims of NATO/Zionist fomented war among the flux of people migrating to Europe who deserve all the help they can get, it is deeply reactionary and dishonest to ignore the obvious instrumentalisation of migration by imperialism.

They are refugees not migrants, and while there are undoubtedly many women children and innocent victims in the 5% of refos who aren't secret muslim terrorists working for Israel, recognising they need help is deeply reactionary and dishonest. Plus "instrumentalisation of migration by uimperialism" - big words make it so.

The more I read this bloke the more annoying he gets.

Do you consider opposition to or criticism of states like Qatar and Saudi Arabia or organizations like IS and Al-Qaeda Islamophobic? I don't think it's inaccurate to accuse these entities of being involved in aggressive imperialism or colonialism. I realize this is somewhat separate from your comments here, I'm just curious.

As best as I can see, nobody here is interested in making you "give a shit about" problems in europe or anywhere else. For my part, it's very interesting to hear other viewpoints on the situation.