TRUMP is seriously dangerous

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Postby 82_28 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:02 pm

You guys have probably already seen this. I meant to post it yesterday but forgot. Take it away Michael Moore. . .

Friends:

I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I gave it to you straight last summer when I told you that Donald Trump would be the Republican nominee for president. And now I have even more awful, depressing news for you: Donald J. Trump is going to win in November. This wretched, ignorant, dangerous part-time clown and full time sociopath is going to be our next president. President Trump. Go ahead and say the words, ‘cause you’ll be saying them for the next four years: “PRESIDENT TRUMP.”

Never in my life have I wanted to be proven wrong more than I do right now.

I can see what you’re doing right now. You’re shaking your head wildly – “No, Mike, this won’t happen!” Unfortunately, you are living in a bubble that comes with an adjoining echo chamber where you and your friends are convinced the American people are not going to elect an idiot for president. You alternate between being appalled at him and laughing at him because of his latest crazy comment or his embarrassingly narcissistic stance on everything because everything is about him. And then you listen to Hillary and you behold our very first female president, someone the world respects, someone who is whip-smart and cares about kids, who will continue the Obama legacy because that is what the American people clearly want! Yes! Four more years of this!

You need to exit that bubble right now. You need to stop living in denial and face the truth which you know deep down is very, very real. Trying to soothe yourself with the facts – “77% of the electorate are women, people of color, young adults under 35 and Trump cant win a majority of any of them!” – or logic – “people aren’t going to vote for a buffoon or against their own best interests!” – is your brain’s way of trying to protect you from trauma. Like when you hear a loud noise on the street and you think, “oh, a tire just blew out,” or, “wow, who’s playing with firecrackers?” because you don’t want to think you just heard someone being shot with a gun. It’s the same reason why all the initial news and eyewitness reports on 9/11 said “a small plane accidentally flew into the World Trade Center.” We want to – we need to – hope for the best because, frankly, life is already a shit show and it’s hard enough struggling to get by from paycheck to paycheck. We can’t handle much more bad news. So our mental state goes to default when something scary is actually, truly happening. The first people plowed down by the truck in Nice spent their final moments on earth waving at the driver whom they thought had simply lost control of his truck, trying to tell him that he jumped the curb: “Watch out!,” they shouted. “There are people on the sidewalk!”

Well, folks, this isn’t an accident. It is happening. And if you believe Hillary Clinton is going to beat Trump with facts and smarts and logic, then you obviously missed the past year of 56 primaries and caucuses where 16 Republican candidates tried that and every kitchen sink they could throw at Trump and nothing could stop his juggernaut. As of today, as things stand now, I believe this is going to happen – and in order to deal with it, I need you first to acknowledge it, and then maybe, just maybe, we can find a way out of the mess we’re in.


continued http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:05 pm

You need to exit that bubble right now. You need to stop living in denial and face the truth which you know deep down is very, very real.


is your brain’s way of trying to protect you from trauma. Like when you hear a loud noise on the street and you think, “oh, a tire just blew out,” or, “wow, who’s playing with firecrackers?” because you don’t want to think you just heard someone being shot with a gun. It’s the same reason why all the initial news and eyewitness reports on 9/11 said “a small plane accidentally flew into the World Trade Center.”


Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:28 pm

there's no tellin' where the money went




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrGw_cOgwa8
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:32 pm

While his older weasel boys bear a resemblance to him, Ivanka for starters do not. I don't believe believe it but there could be a chance that Ivanka was bought or traded to him in some way just like Michael Jackson's kids could never be his own.

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Just thoughts but something to consider I think.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:13 pm

Michael Moore wrote:And if you believe Hillary Clinton is going to beat Trump with facts and smarts and logic, then you obviously missed the past year of 56 primaries and caucuses where 16 Republican candidates tried that and every kitchen sink they could throw at Trump and nothing could stop his juggernaut.


Michael Moore's in a bit of a bubble or two, first with regard to the Republicans. In fact, he seems to be in the Republican bubble itself, wherein they are equivalent to "America." Those were Republican primaries and caucuses that Trump won, where facts etc. never, ever mattered. Trump got upwards of 10 million votes, but so did both Sanders and Clinton. And the 16 Republican candidates for the most part either fronted a politics just like Trump's or even worse, in many cases. He wasn't the one who spoke of carpetbombing Syria or making the desert glow. This is the longstanding evolution of the Republican Party, as cultivated by its leaders and sponsors, and Trump's advantage was to use his TV/wrestling experience and speak without reservations and full honesty as its regular-guy id. The other 77% of the population is not as vulnerable, and even given the nomination Trump played to the crowd that got him to the podium rather than to the voters he supposedly wants to win.

And Clinton, facts, smarts, logic? Really?! How much work would it take me to find statements from Moore contradicting that assessment earlier this year, when he was supporting Sanders? She will beat Trump, and it will be with a usual mix of bullshit and fear, and thanks to the demographics that Moore pooh-poohs in a puzzling way. And the main fear will be the fear of Trump, which will beat out the fears that Trump plays on, especially among "the 77%." (Damn it, Thiel was right: why did they let women vote?!) Even if there's a big bloody terrorist production in the U.S. -- best thing that could happen for Trump -- the response will split, since at least half will not believe he's the one to handle it.

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Postby coffin_dodger » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:19 pm

poetry corner:

Uncle Donald
talking sense
talking shite
words of wisdom
and backtrack
words of a fool
and backtrack
words of war
and backtrack
words of peace
and backtrack
words from the heart
borne of confusion
and clarity
and backtrack
from the end of the start
to the start of the end
a choice for the damned
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:24 pm

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:44 pm

“Did you see Donald Trump’s speech? If that speech was any darker it would’ve been shot by the police.”


“So when Republicans talk about ‘restoring America,’ ‘making it great again,’ ‘taking their country back,’ this is where they want to take it back to: 1959, when life was still in black and white, before the ‘60s came along and ruined everything with color.

Bill Maher


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... -_2u-mdwrA
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby km artlu » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:49 pm

"...if you believe Hillary Clinton is going to beat Trump with facts and smarts and logic...someone the world respects, someone who is whip-smart and cares about kids"

I have no opinion on Moore's central theme above. What's striking to me is how the excerpts I've quoted reveal in himself the same over-reliance on the biases of the rational mind which he cites in others.

Perhaps the kids whom she shares the blame for slaughtering are exceptions to her great caring. It continues to astonish me that persons such as Moore are so dazzled by her brand that they're unable to know her by her works.

It's a tough call, but if I were having to choose which sociopath to be at the mercy of ~ one-on-one in a subbasement of the Pentagon ~ I'd probably go with Trump. It's possible he could be flattered or misdirected; that his grandiosity could somehow be leveraged. But her? I don't sense anything warm-blooded there.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:54 pm

Donald Trump is a misogynistic racist lying uneducated asshole ...so if you like that ..go for it

did I mention he was a fascist?

yea he's a fucking fascist

tough call? really?
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:56 pm

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Moore:‎
"And then you listen to Hillary and you behold our very first female president, someone the world respects, someone who is whip-smart and cares about kids, who will continue the Obama legacy because that is what the American people clearly want! Yes! Four more years of this!"‎

--- uh, no. Not at all, actually.

Unless Moore meant this as a mimic of the thought-processes of the standard/delusional "liberal" (whatever that label means nowadays), then ok, sure.
But in any other context (if, say, Moore is attempting to convey the 'objective reality' of those that are 'paying attention') it's a display of sheer blindness and/or willful ignorance.‎


Also, with regards to Ivanka (82_28's comments above):‎
She clearly displays certain physical traits of Trump/Ivana's progeny.
Don't let Trump's current visage fool you.
His current look (the meticulously-managed weave of orange-hued cotton candy on his head and matching sprayed-on skintone) belies the somewhat "appealing" features of his younger years (opinions/tastes may vary of course, but I am referring here to objective standards of appearance).‎

Ivanka also benefits from years of grooming by the best image/speech-consultants money can buy.‎

‎(on edit, I see JRiddler AND km artlu already replied in more astute terms Re: Moore's comments)



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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:00 pm

Trump University Lawsuit Survives Dismissal Attempt
Plaintiffs claim they were defrauded by Trump’s real estate seminars.



Watchdog Groups Call on DOJ to Launch Investigation into Trump’s Campaign — Here’s Why
Jul. 23, 2016 12:02am Tré Goins-Phillips

Several watchdog groups sent a letter to the Department of Justice Friday calling on the agency to launch an investigation into Donald Trump’s campaign, which they believe is “engaging in knowing and willful violations of federal campaign finance laws.”

That charge comes from accusations that Team Trump is soliciting the donations of foreign nationals, specifically in the wake of the ”Brexit” vote last month in the U.K. The Republican presidential nominee’s campaign was hit with a complaint filed at the Federal Elections Commission in June suggesting it had sent fundraising emails to dozens of Icelandic, Scottish, Australian and British politicians.
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Postby semper occultus » Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:11 pm

...what I'm not clear on is to what extent the MSM have cynically been going easy on Trump , almost been his tv advertising campaign just because he's a fascinatingly grotesque news story they can fill up acres of media space and air time talking about ...in the belief that when push comes to shove a few well aimed darts can just deflate him like a yuuuge over inflated gas bag or wether he really is an evil genie that's now out of the bottle they can't contain even if they wanted to .....
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:13 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... -in-media/

A visual history of Donald Trump dominating the news cycle

The results are staggering but not at all surprising: Trump prominently appeared on the Google News homepage about two times more than Clinton did. (You can read more about how we arrived at this figure at the bottom of this page.)

....

After extracting the pages, we analyzed the underlying HTML to classify parts of the page as mentioning Trump, Clinton or both. In all, we looked at 3.5 million elements that contained text, and found that about 60,000 mentioned Trump, about 25,000 mentioned Clinton, and just over 4,000 mentioned both candidates.
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Re: TRUMP is seriously dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:19 pm

Details Of Donald Trump’s Immigration Plan

August 17, 2015
VOL 51 ISSUE 33

The Onion

This week, Donald Trump unveiled his plan for addressing immigration as president, a series of core principles that specify his heretofore generalized statements about America’s relationship with immigrants. Here are the items detailed in Trump’s outline:

Construction of world-class border wall featuring hundreds of miles of sand traps and water hazards
Improved visa application will require immigrants to declare if they are rapist thugs
Creates robust Border Beauties division of Immigration and Customs Enforcement
Concierge and personal valet service across border for Mexicans with net worth of over $5 million
Clause allowing Trump to deport any current American citizens he deems pathetic and classless as well
U.S. citizenship application process to require recommendation letters from current notable U.S. citizens
Establishes long-term, forward-looking plan to find new nationality to scapegoat for America’s problems by 2035
Admission that U.S. economy will suffer quite a bit
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