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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby StarmanSkye » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:07 am

Some thoughts on the preceeding:

I guess the New Politics of neo-Conservative values which we see in the unprecedented official government protection that encourages the power & privelege of the financial criminal class suggests a kind of logical argument can be made that the trend from "Its the duty of every American industry, company, corporation, business person and citizen to maximize their profits by any *legal* means allowed, including evading, deflecting, eliminating or deferring their tax liability"

leads to: "Its the duty of every worker to inhibit productivity by any and all means *legally* allowed so as to stimulate maximal employment of the work force".

Doesn't that make sense?

(I'm only being partly cynical & facetious here, i think).

Tho I also guess the counter-argument would be that American exceptionalism precludes any equivalence between the logic of Capital's wealth and political power to maximize their own benefit and that of Labor's obligation of duty they owe their employer, ie. Capital.

Its sure not equality of opportunity but 'special rights' that's being emphasized thru most of Obama's unenlightened reign. Hard to see how the neocons could have been better served.

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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Spiro C. Thiery » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:09 am

StarmanSkye wrote:Its sure not equality of opportunity but 'special rights' that's being emphasized thru most of Obama's unenlightened reign. Hard to see how the neocons could have been better served.

Yes, faux-opposition is always better than the real thing. And that's the great game behind the great game. It's never been nation against nation or right versus left, but might makes right. The vast majority of "the leaders" are unwitting tools whose struggle is often equally specious and certainly just as divisive. But somehow, the current WH occ seems too savvy not to be hip to the scam.

Edited to add: Fuck 'im either way.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Luposapien » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:13 am

The Pot in reference to the Kettle:

President Barack Obama said in a statement that he and first lady Michelle Obama were "shocked and saddened" by the "horrific and tragic" shooting. Obama said his administration would do everything they can to support the people of Aurora, Colo.

"As we do when confronted by moments of darkness and challenge, we must now come together as one American family. All of us must have the people of Aurora in our thoughts and prayers as they confront the loss of family, friends, and neighbors," Obama said.


Maybe he should send out predator drones to kill the shooter and his family.

There are consequences to advancing a worldview that legitimizes the use of horrific violence and terror in order to achieve ones political and economic ends.

No, I'm not blaming the shooting on Obama. Just pointing out that he's doing his level best to make sure the mental space is prepared for more of the same, whether he realizes it or not.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby ninakat » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:50 pm

The Obama GITMO myth
Glenn Greenwald, July 23, 2012

Most of the 168 detainees at Guantanamo have been imprisoned by the U.S. Government for close to a decade without charges and with no end in sight to their captivity. Some now die at Guantanamo, thousands of miles away from their homes and families, without ever having had the chance to contest accusations of guilt. During the Bush years, the plight of these detainees was a major source of political controversy, but under Obama, it is now almost entirely forgotten. On those rare occasions when it is raised, Obama defenders invoke a blatant myth to shield the President from blame: he wanted and tried so very hard to end all of this, but Congress would not let him. Especially now that we’re in an Election Year, and in light of very recent developments, it’s long overdue to document clearly how misleading that excuse is.

. . . Long before, and fully independent of, anything Congress did, President Obama made clear that he was going to preserve the indefinite detention system at Guantanamo even once he closed the camp. President Obama fully embraced indefinite detention — the defining injustice of Guantanamo — as his own policy.

. . . When the President finally unveiled his plan for “closing Guantanamo,” it became clear that it wasn’t a plan to “close” the camp as much as it was a plan simply to re-locate it — import it — onto American soil, at a newly purchased federal prison in Thompson, Illinois. William Lynn, Obama’s Deputy Defense Secretary, sent a letter to inquiring Senators that expressly stated that the Obama administration intended to continue indefinitely to imprison some of the detainees with no charges of any kind. The plan was classic Obama: a pretty, feel-good, empty symbolic gesture (get rid of the symbolic face of Bush War on Terror excesses) while preserving the core abuses (the powers of indefinite detention ), even strengthening and expanding those abuses by bringing them into the U.S.

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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:49 am

From the great Arthur Silber:

The Nauseating Grief of Diseased America
Arthur Silber
July 22, 2012

Some years ago, I saw a man in profound emotional distress. The sobs which wracked his body had caused him to collapse to the ground, so weak did they make him. Every few minutes, he emitted a howl of pain, a sound so piercing and unnerving that I hope never to hear its like again. People passed the man in the street. A few of them would pause for a moment, looking awkwardly in his general direction, as if they thought that perhaps they should offer aid in some manner. Then they all walked on. The man remained on the ground, helpless in his immense pain.

After approaching him very slowly, taking care not to move too quickly or unexpectedly, I gently took him in my arms. "I'm here," I kept repeating. "I'll help you in any way I can. I'm here." I held him for many long minutes, softly murmuring the phrases over and over. He eventually began to breathe somewhat more normally. "I'll help you if I can. Please tell me what I can do."

"It's just..." He offered the words so tentatively that I could barely hear them. "It's just...?" I quietly asked. After a few more minutes had passed, he managed to tell me what had upset him so deeply.

A bus had been taking a class of 30 children from a local elementary school, together with three teachers, on a school outing. The bus had veered off a mountain road -- no one had been able to determine why exactly -- and plunged into a ravine. Everyone on board was killed. I had heard the story, of course; everyone had.

"It's just so terrible," the man said. "So, so terrible. All those lives ended so needlessly. All those families torn apart, some of them never to recover. So many possibilities for happiness and joy ended." He was slowly gathering his strength again. "It's monstrous," he said with great emphasis. "How is it possible that such monstrous things can happen?"

I consoled him as best I could, but I took care not to offer empty words of comfort. I told him I recognized that nothing could ever make such events acceptable, that many of the wounds caused by the tragedy would never heal. He seemed grateful that I didn't try to deny or avoid the horror of what had happened.

We talked for several more minutes. Finally, I had to tell him that I needed to go on to a meeting I was expected to attend; I couldn't miss it. But I gave him my card, and I wrote my personal cell phone number on the back, telling him to call me if he wanted to talk about this further, or about anything else at all. As we were parting, I asked him his name, and he told me. I paused for a moment, and looked at him more carefully. Yes, it was the face that went with the name I had been reading about. I somehow managed to mask my realization -- although there was a moment that gave me a bad fright, when I thought he had noticed the change in me that I hoped I had disguised, but it mercifully passed -- and we offered our final goodbyes. I turned away and began walking down the street.

Fortunately, a police car was parked at the corner. I took a deep breath and slowly turned around just enough so that I could glance behind me: the man was slowly walking in the opposite direction. I walked over to the police car and told the officers the name of the man I had just been talking to, and pointed him out to them. They caught him a few minutes later; he was arrested without incident, and without any attendant violence. Later that day, I explained to the police how it was that the man had told me his name. I never made it to the meeting; given the circumstances, everyone understood why.

The man I had talked to and consoled -- the man so overcome with grief that he had been rendered utterly helpless -- was a serial killer who had been sought by law enforcement for over five years. They were certain he was responsible for at least 40 deaths, although the actual number was undoubtedly higher. They were never certain they identified all his victims; he refused to help them in that effort. But he did explain how he chose his victims: he knew, he stated very simply, that the people he killed were bad. How did he know? What was his standard for judgment? He never answered those questions; he seemed to assume the answers should be as self-evident to others as they were to him. But his own victims included children -- yet he regarded them as guilty in the same manner as the adults he killed. And all the people he had killed were completely ordinary. They were no better, and no worse, than you, or me, or tens of millions of other people. His victims weren't famous or prominent in any way, not before he murdered them.

I keep remembering the man as I first met him: collapsed on the ground, sobbing in pain that seemed entirely genuine. Perhaps it was genuine in some way I cannot grasp. He considered the victims of the bus crash to be innocent, as opposed to those he murdered, whom he regarded as guilty beyond all doubt. I came to realize that the mind has an infinite capacity for rationalization and compartmentalization. He apparently recognized no connection whatsoever between the victims of the bus crash and the victims of his crimes. Grief was the appropriate reaction to the bus tragedy, in his view; for his own victims, he never expressed any regret or pity, in even the smallest degree.

But I wonder now. I wonder if I will ever believe someone who tells me he feels immense grief for a tragedy that has befallen another human being. How many cruelties has he himself delivered or excused, cruelties that were undeserved and needless? Does he feel grief about them? I wonder if I will ever trust anyone again. For it seems to me that most people have splintered their minds and their consciences in the same way the killer had. Most people have chosen to shatter their souls so completely that they can never be made whole again. Can such people ever be believed about a matter of great moment?

**********

That is fiction. The awful tragedy in Colorado is not. I do not wonder about the terrible, life-altering grief felt by those individuals immediately affected by these ghastly events: the families and friends of those who were killed and injured, as well as those who were trapped in the theater during those terrifying and endless minutes, together with those who live in Aurora.

But I do wonder about the national paroxysm of grief, the generalized scream of pain offered by every politician and public official from president to trash collector, the public lamentation and wailing, the sickening enthusiasm shown by political tribalists from every point in the spectrum for scoring disgustingly cheap points off the blood-spattered corpses of the victims. Yet that isn't honest of me: I don't wonder about such public displays at all. I view them with deep loathing and contempt. I consider them, without exception, to be the symptoms of irretrievably damaged, narcissistic psychologies. Those who engage in such public displays and political positioning are vile and despicable in a manner that is close to impossible to capture in words. I emphasize again that I am speaking here not of those immediately affected by this tragedy, but of those people who have no direct connection of any kind to the victims and their families.

Out of a multitude of facts that I could offer to explain my judgment, I offer this, from an article in the Asian Tribune about civilian deaths in drone strikes ordered by the United States:

CIA Drone Strikes in Pakistan 2004 – 2012

Total US strikes: 321

Obama strikes: 269

Total reported killed: 2,429 - 3,097

Civilians reported killed: 479 – 811

Children reported killed: 174

Total reported injured: 1,169-1,281



US Covert Action in Yemen 2002 – 2012

Total US strikes : 41 - 128

Total US drone strikes: 31 - 67

Total reported killed: 294 - 651

Civilians reported killed: 55 - 105

Children reported killed: 24



US Covert Action in Somalia 2007 – 2012

Total US strikes: 10 - 21

Total US drone strikes: 3 - 9

Total reported killed: 58 - 169

Civilians reported killed: 11 - 57

Children reported killed: 1 - 3


We know that these figures are far from complete, just as we know that the numbers of innocent human beings murdered by the United States government are far, far higher, even if we restrict ourselves to murders in recent years. This is true not only because the U.S. government carries out operations in more than 75 countries around the world. Do not forget the genocide in Iraq.

I say, "Do not forget..." -- but the truth is far worse. The U.S. government -- and most Americans -- have never recognized the genocide at all.

Consider the staggering number of murders of innocent human beings committed by the United States government -- and ask yourselves how many Auroras those murders represent. I have tried to make calculations of this kind before: using conservative estimates of the deaths in Iraq, the murders in that country alone represent a 9/11 every day for five years. An equivalent number of Auroras would be much higher.

Listen for the public lamentations about even a small fraction of these deaths. Listen as carefully as you can. What do you hear? Why, nothing at all. These murders of entirely innocent human beings don't matter at all to most Americans. They most certainly don't matter to anyone in the U.S. government.

Can anything be worse than this loathsome silence? Perhaps one thing can be: the assertion by President Obama, and by the U.S. government, that he and they have the "right" to murder anyone at all anywhere in the world, for any reason they choose -- and that they need never disclose any details of their murders, including the fact that they have ordered them. This is the assertion of absolute, unanswerable power. It is the same claim made by every slaughtering monster in history.

This monstrous crime, what is in fact an ongoing, systematic series of monstrous crimes, is greeted by near universal silence in America. The U.S. government orders an unending series of Auroras: it ordered an Aurora last week, it will order an Aurora this week, it will order an Aurora next week. Almost no one cares. Almost no one even notices.

With these facts fixed firmly in our minds, consider these words spoken by Obama after the events in Colorado:

Now, even as we learn how this happened and who's responsible, we may never understand what leads anybody to terrorize their fellow human beings like this. Such violence, such evil is senseless. It's beyond reason. But while we will never know fully what causes somebody to take the life of another, we do know what makes life worth living. The people we lost in Aurora loved and they were loved. They were mothers and fathers; they were husbands and wives; sisters and brothers; sons and daughters, friends and neighbors. They had hopes for the future and they had dreams that were not yet fulfilled.

And if there’s anything to take away from this tragedy it’s the reminder that life is very fragile. Our time here is limited and it is precious. And what matters at the end of the day is not the small things, it’s not the trivial things, which so often consume us and our daily lives. Ultimately, it’s how we choose to treat one another and how we love one another.


Keeping in mind the murders regularly committed by the U.S. government, and the murders of innocent human beings regularly ordered by Obama himself, we must recognize that these remarks are the equivalent of the expressions of grief offered by the serial killer in my fictional exercise. These are the remarks of a man who has suffered an irreparable break with reality, a man who who has rendered himself unable to connect obviously related facts. If Obama genuinely meant these comments -- if he understood how these remarks apply with far greater force to him ("we may never understand what leads anybody to terrorize their fellow human beings like this") -- his realization of the monster he has allowed himself to become would reduce him to gibbering incoherence for the remainder of his life. In varying degrees, the same is true of any individual who remains in the national government at this point.

More generally, this is American culture today. Like the killer in my story, many Americans hurl themselves with fundamentally false, deeply disturbed enthusiasm into public demonstrations of grief over the needless deaths of some human beings -- those human beings they see as being much like themselves, when the deaths happen in what could be their own neighborhood. As for all the murders committed by their government with a systematic dedication as insane as that of any serial killer: silence.

But every murder committed by the United States government, every murder ordered by Obama, represents a tragedy exactly like Aurora to someone. But it is not someone most Americans happen to know or recognize -- even if only to recognize the person as a fellow human being -- and it is therefore as if it never occurred.

So I wonder. I wonder if I will ever trust anyone again.

**********

Five years ago, after the Virginia Tech murders, I wrote about many of the issues raised by these recent events in: "The United States as Cho Seung-Hui: How the State Sanctifies Murder." Tragically, that earlier discussion has lost none of its relevance. I therefore commend it to your attention, perhaps especially with regard to the excerpts from Albert Jay Nock's Our Enemy, the State.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby StarmanSkye » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:55 pm

^^^^
VERY compelling analysis by Arthur Silber of the grotesque public-spectacle displays of empathy and grief by self-absorbed officials that mask the incredible hypocrisy of superficial compassion that is a major characteristic of our all-too insincere, poseur society.

Quite right, the public's insular lack of conscious awareness of the victims of America's venal mendicity inherant in its foreign policy adventures, intrigues, interference, scheming & skullduggery is a national travesty & disgrace that all the best intentions and media-amplified good-news celebrations of America's assistance, development & aid 'programs' around the world can't begin to make-up for -- or eclipse. Like Silber, I too find the too-public displays of teeth-gnashing sorrow by people with no direct connection to the 'fellow-citizen' victims of tragedies and accidents to be most foul & contemptable.

--quote--
"If Obama genuinely meant these comments -- if he understood how these remarks apply with far greater force to him ("we may never understand what leads anybody to terrorize their fellow human beings like this") -- his realization of the monster he has allowed himself to become would reduce him to gibbering incoherence for the remainder of his life. In varying degrees, the same is true of any individual who remains in the national government at this point.

--end quote--

EXCELLANT point -- that the best way to really protest our unwitting, unwilling complicity with the violence & crimes of an illegitimate, criminal rogue Deep State government that presumes to act in our best interests and on our behalf is to dissociate ourselves from it to the extent that we can -- and non-participation makes the strongest ethical statement that it no-longer is and cannot even make the case that it is For, By and Of
WE, The people.

In fact, that suggests a powerful image-sign statement:

A placard with a large white circle, the inside of which reads in blue text: "We The People" with a bold red-diagonal slash-stripe running thru it.
And perhaps, the background of the circle filling the sign's square space with repeating rows of white-on-black text reading:
Property of US Gov. Property of US Gov. Property of US Gov. Property of US Gov. Property of US Gov. Property of US Gov. Property of US Gov.

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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:26 am

Mister Inspiration clears his throat and addresses the planet:

"All of us recognise that these kinds of terrible, tragic events are happening with too much regularity for us not to do some soul searching to examine additional ways that we can reduce violence, " Mr Obama said during an unrelated bill signing on Monday.

Mr Obama has pledged to work with members of both political parties and civic organisations to reach a consensus on the matter, but has not given details.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19158203


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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Nordic » Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:30 am

It's really too much to bear.

I felt physically ill in the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq.

Today I felt physically ill, and profoundly, desperately mournful, for the tens of thousands who were slaughtered in Hiroshima and Nagasaki on this date.

The things we celebrate. We bow our heads, supposedly, hypocritically, at so many "holidays", but we completely ignore, at least in this country, the date when we unleashed weapons of mass destruction upon the world, and vaporized so many lives, and ended so many more in slow painful poisoning death.

How many people in America were even aware of this?

It's more than I can stand.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby ninakat » Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:33 pm

I hear you Nordic, and share your dismay.

Here, in case anyone hasn't had enough "told ya so", is a video discussion about Obama's legacy so far, etc. Program is about 25 minutes.

"Mitt Romney Catastrophe: Barack Obama Disaster"

Inside Story US2012 [Al Jazeera], with presenter Shihab Rattansi, takes a critical analysis of his achievements with guests: Cornel West, a professor emeritus of Princeton University, activist and author of The Rich & the Rest of Us - A Poverty Manifesto, and Paul Street, a journalist and author of Barack Obama and the future of American Politics.

"It's very odd how for some progressives and liberals in this country wars, secret detentions and bailouts and violations of habeas corpus, that were heinous and terrible and hideous when an inarticulate white Republican from West Texas does it, becomes curiously okay when a sophisticated black lawyer does it." - Paul Street, a journalist and author
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Spiro C. Thiery » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:25 am

ninakat wrote:"Mitt Romney Catastrophe: Barack Obama Disaster"

Inside Story US2012 [Al Jazeera], with presenter Shihab Rattansi, takes a critical analysis of his achievements with guests: Cornel West, a professor emeritus of Princeton University, activist and author of The Rich & the Rest of Us - A Poverty Manifesto, and Paul Street, a journalist and author of Barack Obama and the future of American Politics.

"It's very odd how for some progressives and liberals in this country wars, secret detentions and bailouts and violations of habeas corpus, that were heinous and terrible and hideous when an inarticulate white Republican from West Texas does it, becomes curiously okay when a sophisticated black lawyer does it." - Paul Street, a journalist and author

I appreciate the link, ninakat, as do I that Prof. West has come around. He gave this admin too much credit in the beginning, which suits his personality, especially since he supported the candidacy. But in that light, he has no business referencing drinkers of Kool-Aid. Anybody who bought the campaign was drunk on lies. And either Cornell West was drunk on lies, or he was lying himself. I suspect the former. Paul Street is standing on firmer ground in his analysis, at least in his claim that none of the current president's actions came as a surprise to him.

Unfortunately race still matters. With the election of Obama, it has become a double-reverse high-hurdle to electoral change that was already nearly impossible. But now, it brings the growing minority and eventual majority of sleeping citizens into mainstream politics in a way that was, foreseeable by the Black intelligentsia who never traded power for blinders. As one-time political science professor at Northwestern University, Labor Party founder Adolph Reed Jr. wrote in the Village Voice in '96:
In Chicago, for instance, we’ve gotten a foretaste of the new breed of foundation-hatched black communitarian voices; one of them, a smooth Harvard lawyer with impeccable do-good credentials and vacuous-to-repressive neoliberal politics, has won a state senate seat on a base mainly in the liberal foundation and development worlds. His fundamentally bootstrap line was softened by a patina of the rhetoric of authentic community, talk about meeting in kitchens, small-scale solutions to social problems, and the predictable elevation of process over program — the point where identity politics converges with old-fashioned middle-class reform in favoring form over substance. I suspect that his ilk is the wave of the future in U.S. black politics, as in Haiti and wherever else the International Monetary Fund has sway. So far the black activist response hasn’t been up to the challenge. We have to do better.


It is embarrassing when White people compare Blacks of personal preference (ie. "I don't care for Whitney Houston, but love Anita Baker.") However, in this case--indeed, in the case of calling out all creeds of corporate journalism--the grass roots need greater access to Black analysis of rigorous intuition. Glen Ford of Black Agenda Report comes to mind. http://blackagendareport.com/

In other words, Glen Ford and Margaret Kimberley are not only preferable Black voices today more than ever. They are not only preferable to the likes of MSNBC water carrying Rev. Al Sharpton. They are preferable to anybody proudly carrying the Liberal label. "Liberal" is no more than exceptionalist imperialism wrapped in a progressive social policy package. Always has been. Redneck racists didn't kill Fred Hampton in cold blood as he slept in his bed. Nor were they responsible for the wire-tapping and eventual murder of MLK. Liberal Law Enforcement is responsible. Liberalism is the bulwark against anti-establishmentarianism. Liberalism is the reason why Cynthia McKinney was run out of office in Georgia. Liberalism is a friendly egalitarian guise, without which there would be no Lesser-of-Evilism.

It is tempting for anyone who was raised either liberal or Liberal to resist this definition, to insist upon the "no true Liberal" argument--to point out, for example that the truly lovable Rep Barbara Lee, the sole resistance to the Afghan invasion in the US Congress, is a self-proclaimed Liberal. I say, that Rep Lee, like all good liberals, just doesn't know that there is an anti-establishmentarian screaming to get out of the Liberal shackles.

For the purpose of semantic specificity, I hasten to point out that having liberal ideologies is not what I am talking about when I say "Liberal shackles". Liberalism was co-opted by government and power (is there any difference?) from the get-go. Liberalism killed millions of Japanese in the blink of an eye, and is nary questioned as a policy decision today largely because it was in the wake of the defeat of Nazi Germany and the perceived heroism of The New Deal. Liberalism may have extended its limits in Viet Nam, with the Civil Rights Act doing little to assuage the perception of her brutal reality, but Liberalism learned a lesson in marketing: today's misadventures are met, relative to the 60s, with nary a peep. Certainly not from self-proclaimed Liberals who see the defeat of Mitt Romney as the first priority of business.

And sorry for this (likely) repeat link, but I think the need for a perceptual paradigm shift is becoming greater with every election season:
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/06/ ... rtist.html
This alternative narrative is a hard truth to hear, because it carries with it an implicit rejection of American exceptionalism. Yes, American institutions are no better, and in many ways are more malignant, than those of many other countries. Yes, our political leaders, our press, our military leadership, operate in service to sociopathic aims. Yes, our freedoms are often an illusion, unless you fit a very narrow criteria. Yes, our banks are run to rob us, yes, our CIA spies on us, and yes, our government is fundamentally anti-democratic. Yes, our President is a con artist, and yes, nearly every reporter who writes about him participates in this set of lies, because of careerism, social financial reasons, or a simple lack of competence or imagination.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby crikkett » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:40 am

Luposapien wrote:The Pot in reference to the Kettle:

President Barack Obama said in a statement that he and first lady Michelle Obama were "shocked and saddened" by the "horrific and tragic" shooting. Obama said his administration would do everything they can to support the people of Aurora, Colo.

"As we do when confronted by moments of darkness and challenge, we must now come together as one American family. All of us must have the people of Aurora in our thoughts and prayers as they confront the loss of family, friends, and neighbors," Obama said.


Maybe he should send out predator drones to kill the shooter and his family.

There are consequences to advancing a worldview that legitimizes the use of horrific violence and terror in order to achieve ones political and economic ends.

No, I'm not blaming the shooting on Obama. Just pointing out that he's doing his level best to make sure the mental space is prepared for more of the same, whether he realizes it or not.


:thumbsup


Yes, yes, yes. This is not much different than a drone strike on a wedding party.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby NeonLX » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:58 am

"War is Terrorism with a Bigger Budget"

--one of the few bumper stickers I'd consider sticking on my old beater of a car.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby StarmanSkye » Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:32 pm

^^^^

Right-oN NeonLX! That's a great bumper sticker that I wouldn't be too paranoid about showing myownself, IMO hardly likely to incite rage or provoke a dangerous reactionary gesture of PC reprisal from some tail-gating self-righteous faux-patriotic political-bigot. Yet still capable of triggering the kind of deep-thought reflection which is the best purpose that bumper stickers are uniquely suited for, taking advantage of attracting the attention of a following-car's 'captive audience'.

--quote--
"War is Terrorism with a Bigger Budget"

--one of the few bumper stickers I'd consider sticking on my old beater of a car.
(NeonLX)
--unquote--

I'd say the best 'devices' for socially-relevant 'wise' bumper stickers include:

Unabashedly bold & refreshingly candid Common Sense.
Ascerbic irony.
Decietful sarcasm.
Elegantly understated wisdom.
Damning Truth paraphrased as Tongue-in-Cheek jest.
--And of course, one shouldn't leave-out good ol' fashioned
Humour.
esp. the silly, goofy, clever-dumb slapstick, comedic-relief kinds.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:46 pm

I used to laugh, now I cringe whenever I see an Obama sticker next to an anti war/pro peace sticker on a car. I kind of feel sorry for the Whole Food organic Prius yuppy/granola liberals
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby NeonLX » Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:25 am

8bitagent wrote:I used to laugh, now I cringe whenever I see an Obama sticker next to an anti war/pro peace sticker on a car. I kind of feel sorry for the Whole Food organic Prius yuppy/granola liberals


Mrs. Neon and I call them "NPR Liberals".

After all, NPR's propaganda goes down a lot smoother than what gets catapulted from right-wing talk radio. NPR uses bigger words 'n' stuff.
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