Peak oil a hoax? Prove it.

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Postby stickdog99 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:12 pm

Why is it incumbent on me to DISPROVE a scare mongering tactic that just happens to be perfectly aligned with increasing short term Big Oil profit margins?

Yes, I am skeptical about Peak Oil. Does that mean that I think that the current rate of growth of oil consumption won't someday outpace the oil that can be extracted from the Earth more cheaply than alternative energy sources? Of course not.

But the idea that all of the Earth's oil and natural gas will somehow "run out" in 10 to 15 years is patently absurd. Do you realize how much completely untapped oil and methane is trapped under our oceans?

Consider Iraq for a second. Do you realize why Iraq is such a prize, such an important piece to the Big Oil puzzle? Palast is 100% right on this. We didn't invade Iraq to get their oil but to control their oil spigot. For the moment, the last thing Big Oil wants is a flood of cheap Iraqi oil depressing their obscene profit margins. The history of Iraq is the history of cheap oil that has been PURPOSEFULLY untapped to this day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves

Iraq has the fourth largest reserves of conventional oil in the world at 112 gigabarrels. Despite its vast oil reserves and low costs, production has not recovered since the US-led 2003 invasion of Iraq. Constant looting, insurgent attacks, and sabotage in the oil fields has limited production to around 0.5 gigabarrels per year at best. Political risk is thus the main constraint on Iraqi oil production and likely to remain so in the near future.

Iraqi oil is incredibly cheap to extract and refine, yet Iraqi's PROVEN reserves have gone largely untapped throughout all of history.

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Look at the chart. Every time Iraqi oil production has begun to approach a measly 4 million barrels a day, Big Oil has responded by doing everything in its power to destroy Iraqi oil production capabilities with military strife.

More: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/061406J.shtml & http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/oil/

Maybe you'd like to challenge us to DISPROVE Bush's contention that Social Security is facing imminent insolvency next? Because scare mongering about Peak Oil and scare mongering about Social Security have a lot in common.
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Postby slow_dazzle » Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:52 pm

BTW, what follows is not aimed at anyone who has posted in this thread.

Whilst I accept the commonality of interest between the agendas of Big Oil and Anglo-American military adventurism, that does not invalidate the fact that world oil and gas supplies are peaking, if they have not already done so. Moreover, the issue is not one of running out of energy, a mistake that many people make when they rightly point to the fact that around half of the available gas and energy supplies remain to be exploited. It is the intimate relationship between continued access to constant supplies at a stable price and how our economic system depends upon such access that underpins the desperate scramble for what is left. If demand remains constant there is a serious question mark over the maintenance of an economic system that is absolutely reliant upon economics as we practice it. I would emphasise that running out of oil is not the issue; it is peaking which is essentially the point at which extraction rates will never rise above the level they are at once the peak is reached. Peaking, not running out, is what it's all about.

It must also be emphasised that the downward slope is likely to be very steep, a concept that is difficult to argue with given the way in which oil and gas extraction works.

The power elite know full well that it makes little difference if the masses get into a froth over the occupation of Iraq, the killing of thousands of civilians and sleaze in government to name but a few demons from the litany of neocon outrages. At the end of the day the masses can rant, post on blogs and demonstrate with their placards. At the end of the day the masses know they can go home to their cozy beds and their little world won't be affected all that much. On the other hand, if people wake up to the fact that the economic system they believe in is going to slowly (or quickly depending on who one believes) crumble thus rendering the future a very uncertain, and probably a quite frightening one, for them and, more importantly, their children that is likely to change their attitudes radically. It is for that reason I would want to debunk Peak Oil and Peak Gas entirely because that is directly affects them in a major way. That is why I believe there is so much disinformation being peddled around to try to convince people that it is all nonsense.

Think about this logically. If PO and PG are scare-mongering psyop tactics why are corporations such as Exxon trying to play down the notion that we have peaked, or are about to, peak? Logic tells me that it would be entirely consistent with their agenda to strengthen the notion of peaking in the public mind. But that is not what is happening. On the contrary there are desperate attempts to assure everyone that it's all going to be just hunky dory.

Conversely, activists are trying to wake people up to what lies ahead so they can take steps to try to avert the worst of the coming problems. Is it likely that a widespread downsizing of lifestyles on a global scale is in the interests of the corporations who are supplying the goods that the masses buy? Of course it is not yet that is one of the main messages emanating from the PO movement.

Come to think of it, I would try to rubbish anyone who tried to wake people up to what lies ahead. Let them rant and rave, blog and demonstrate. They know there is a cozy bed awaiting them at the end of a hard day's protest. But for god's sake don't let them know how bad things are likely to get if they realise their children are facing major uncertainty as the economic system starts to crumble.

There is little dissent over the intimate relationship between the effect of peaking of oil supplies on our economic systems and the implications for agricultural production of a decrease in the availability of gas. If one accepts that is correct the issue is then one of whether the peak theory is incorrect. Many researchers have spent a considerable amount of time looking into the issues surrounding the peaking of energy supplies. Perhaps they are all utterly deluded. Or maybe they are all NWO tools working to take over the world by conning us all. Or maybe the laws of supply and demand of a finite physical resource do not apply to oil and gas.

It is tempting to believe it's all a massive plot whereby all the players are reading from a carefully prepared script written by the neocons, NWO or whichever group is trying to direct the future of humanity. That has a remote possibility of being correct I suppose. For me, the answer is much simpler - constant, or rising demand, for a finite resource that is the very essence of our economic systems, cannot be reconciled with maintenance of the status quo. If I wanted to remain in power I certainly would not support the notion of Peak Oil because it will affect everyone in ways that are likely to be rather unpleasant. Nope, I would spread batshit crazy theories such as abiotic oil and tell them there's loads left so party on people.

It is the peaking of supply that has led us to where we are at present - not an attempt to control and enslave the population even though there is loads and loads of oil left. Oh no, it is a desperate scramble to grab the dwindling supplies; the repressive legislation, invasion of Iraq, etc etc etc are simply symptoms of, and concomitants to, that desperate scramble.

Open letter to Greg Palast

http://energybulletin.net/17914.html

These articles contain useful discussions on the salient issues.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/w ... _lies.html

http://energybulletin.net/newswire.php?id=73

http://energybulletin.net/newswire.php?id=30

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/2130

http://www.globalpublicmedia.org/articles/825

This site is one of the best because it discusses the issues in a holistic way.

http://www.oilempire.us/
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Postby stickdog99 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:49 pm

But why? Why should the masses be so damned concerned that an economic system that exploits their labor while pitting every worker in the world against every other in order to enrich the elite is "about to crumble"?

The reason Big Oil is reassuring everyone that "all is well for now" is because to suggest otherwise might cause conversion to other alternative energy sources on a timeline that limits their potential for exploiting inevitable future shortages of oil to maximize profits. However, this should not blind us to the fact that the history of oil production has been the history of keeping oil prices artificially high. Nothing has changed on the front as of yet nor is likely to in future as long as Big Oil runs the military of world's only superpower.

My bottom line is this: if you wish to make people aware that current (and growing) levels of oil consumption will soon put us even more at the mercy of Big Oil and associated oligarchs, Peak away! If you instead wish to alarm us that "our" economic sky is currently in the process of falling -- justifying both Big Oil's insane profit margins and military adventurism -- please carefully reconsider your rhetorical excesses.
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Postby wintler2 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:37 pm

stickdog99 wrote:Why is it incumbent on me to DISPROVE a scare mongering tactic that just happens to be perfectly aligned with increasing short term Big Oil profit margins?
Because there is a large body of evidence supporting it and nothing but the US EIA, Exxon, CERA and (cough) Dave Magowan seriously disagreeing with it (you might want to reread Greg Palasts two articles on PO). Incidentally, PO isn't aligned with maximising Big Oil returns, for the reasons slow_dazzle discussed, and because >70% of oil in the ground belongs to national oil companies not the big corporations, and because price spikes are leading governments to raise royalties & consider windfall taxes/subsidy cuts.

stickdog99 wrote:Yes, I am skeptical about Peak Oil. Does that mean that I think that the current rate of growth of oil consumption won't someday outpace the oil that can be extracted from the Earth more cheaply than alternative energy sources? Of course not.
Great, so we may only differ on when.

stickdog99 wrote:But the idea that all of the Earth's oil and natural gas will somehow "run out" in 10 to 15 years is patently absurd.
It is, happily noone here is arguing that. Why do you pose that strawman?
stickdog99 wrote:Do you realize how much completely untapped oil and methane is trapped under our oceans?
Where, & do you have any proof that significant volumes are commercially/practically available?

stickdog99 wrote:Consider Iraq for a second. Do you realize why Iraq is such a prize, such an important piece to the Big Oil puzzle? Palast is 100% right on this. We didn't invade Iraq to get their oil but to control their oil spigot. For the moment, the last thing Big Oil wants is a flood of cheap Iraqi oil depressing their obscene profit margins. The history of Iraq is the history of cheap oil that has been PURPOSEFULLY untapped to this day.
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Iraqi oil is incredibly cheap to extract and refine, yet Iraqi's PROVEN reserves have gone largely untapped throughout all of history.

..Look at the chart. Every time Iraqi oil production has begun to approach a measly 4 million barrels a day, Big Oil has responded by doing everything in its power to destroy Iraqi oil production capabilities with military strife.

More: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/061406J.shtml & http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/oil/


Can you clarify, are you now saying peak oil is false because the US-UK are using war in Iraq to limit extraction there? Iraqs troubles only push its extraction back in time, affecting maybe the timing but not the fact of the peak. Indeed the cuts to extraction since the latest invasion may bring global peak forward (given depletion elsewhere), making windfall taxes and direct govt intervention in oil pricing and distribution more likely sooner, not what Big Oil wants at all.

You seem to be arguing different sides at once, else you have overblown ideas about possible contribution of Iraq. Iraq may break thru 4mil.barrels/day, after 10 years of mega-investment and no war, but in a world where North Sea production is declining at >10% a year, Ghawar is pumping much more salt water than oil, and Mexico's exports (all to US) are disappearing (since Cantarell field has peaked & indig. consumption still rising), so what? 4mil.b/d. is not so important in an 84mil.b/d world.

stickdog99 wrote:Maybe you'd like to challenge us to DISPROVE Bush's contention that Social Security is facing imminent insolvency next? Because scare mongering about Peak Oil and scare mongering about Social Security have a lot in common.
Where have i 'scare mongered'? And i invite you to launch a thread describing the similarities you see.
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Postby wintler2 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:09 pm

stickdog99 wrote:But why? Why should the masses be so damned concerned that an economic system that exploits their labor while pitting every worker in the world against every other in order to enrich the elite is "about to crumble"?
Because everyone who is in debt, owns shares or has superannuation is betting on growth forever.

stickdog99 wrote:The reason Big Oil is reassuring everyone that "all is well for now" is because to suggest otherwise might cause conversion to other alternative energy sources on a timeline that limits their potential for exploiting inevitable future shortages of oil to maximize profits.
Assuming alt.energy sources exist, are accesible, and wont themselves crash the economy (look at corn prices in US since corn>ethanol became agribusiness's favourite tax dodge).

stickdog99 wrote:However, this should not blind us to the fact that the history of oil production has been the history of keeping oil prices artificially high. Nothing has changed on the front as of yet nor is likely to in future as long as Big Oil runs the military of world's only superpower.
Now i'm embarrassed for you. Not the only case but certainly a very famous historical disproof of your 'fact':
..Saudi Arabia, trying to gain back market share, increased production and caused downward pressure on prices, making high-cost oil production facilities less profitable or even unprofitable. The world price of oil, which had reached a peak in 1979, at more than US$80 a barrel (503 US$/m³) in 2004 dollars, decreased during the early 1980s to US$38 a barrel (239 US$/m³). In real prices, oil briefly fell back to pre-1973 levels. Overall, the reduction in price was a windfall for the oil-consuming nations: United States, Japan, Europe and especially the Third World. ..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
Many have argued the US pushed SA to raise production to put income-pressure on the Iranian revolutionary government (having deposed 'our man' the brutal Shah of Iran).

stickdog99 wrote:My bottom line is this: if you wish to make people aware that current (and growing) levels of oil consumption will soon put us even more at the mercy of Big Oil and associated oligarchs, Peak away!
How much oil does Big Oil actually control? Not much in global scheme of things. Put away your cartoon enemies and meet the real world.

stickdog99 wrote:If you instead wish to alarm us that "our" economic sky is currently in the process of falling -- justifying both Big Oil's insane profit margins and military adventurism -- please carefully reconsider your rhetorical excesses.
Your last sentance is entirely your projection, another strawman, nowhere have i argued that, indeed quite the opposite.

The obscene profits and military adventurism are business-as-usual, a natural consequence i believe of our apathy and ignorance about the true costs of our lifestyles, which i think is worth changing. Cheap energy has fueled human delusions of grandeur on a global scale, including the fantasy that everything that happens has human cause. There is a bigger picture.
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Postby wintler2 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:13 pm

Osculum Infame wrote:Peak oil = market manipulation and vast profits for those black budgets, like stealing candy from the babies.


How?

This is the point of the thread, how do you believe it is being done? (see prev. posts).
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Postby stickdog99 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:33 pm

Look at this: http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/oil/

Just because much of the "oil in the ground" belongs to "national" oil companies doesn't mean that Big Oil won't reap most of the benefits of higher prices. Big Oil (since the days of good old Standard) has always been far more about oil distribution than production.

price spikes are leading governments to raise royalties & consider windfall taxes/subsidy cuts.


This is some hilarious rhetoric. High oil prices that result in windfall profits are not aligned with Big Oil interests because some governments (the ones not controlled by Big Oil?) might someday notice them and cap and/or tax them and/or cut off some of Big Oil's corporate welfare? By the same token, are we to believe that it's not lucky to win the superlotto either-- since you'll just get taxed and have your food stamps taken away?

Considering Iraq, just because 4 million barrels a day has been some sort of benchmark for Big Oil to come in destroy Iraq's infrastructure with military upheaval doesn't mean that it is some sort of hard limit on Iraq's production. What reason do you have to believe that Iraq's oil production couldn't very easily surpass 10 million barrels a day if only Big Oil would stop blowing the damn country to bits for a decade?

And if you aren't arguing that oil is about to run out, what's the big deal? Oil prices will rise making alternative energy sources more attractive. Big Oil and the US military it directs simply want to control and profit from this inevitability and keep anyone else from getting a piece of their current and longstanding energy distribution oligarchy. They will be perfectly content to switch over to distributing alternative energy sources once they have bled us dry on their timetable. The key from their point of view to keep decentralized renewable energy sources from reaching critical mass in the energy marketplace while keeping enough of us hooked on oil until they diversify to other sources of energy that they can distribute with the same oligarchic stranglehold.
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Postby stickdog99 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:52 pm

Because everyone who is in debt, owns shares or has superannuation is betting on growth forever.

Well, that's obviously becoming a precarious bet as the human petri dish reaches saturation with or without Peak Oil, is it not?

Assuming alt.energy sources exist, are accesible, and wont themselves crash the economy.


The sun is still shining, the wind is still blowing, and the ocean is still churning. If worse comes to worst, e still equals mc^2. Ethanol is simply the greenstamps Big Oil serves up to agribusiness (one of Big Oil's biggest consumers). Note that Big Oil still controls the entire distribution side of ethanol.

The fact that Saudi Arabia once acted like a Texas wildcatter by undercutting Big Oil's production side dalliances does not negate 125+ years of oil distribution history.

How much oil does Big Oil actually control? Not much in global scheme of things. Put away your cartoon enemies and meet the real world.


Once again, you seem to believe that Big Oil is about oil production. It is not. It is about oil distribution. And it ain't a cartoon enemy. It's an undeniable global corporate oligarchy that fuels our entire Western military industrial complex.

The obscene profits and military adventurism are business-as-usual, a natural consequence i believe of our apathy and ignorance about the true costs of our lifestyles, which i think is worth changing. Cheap energy has fueled human delusions of grandeur on a global scale, including the fantasy that everything that happens has human cause. There is a bigger picture.


Indeed there is. The sun is still shining, the wind is still blowing, and the ocean is still churning. There is no technical reason that these renewable resources (along with conservation) can't break the global energy distribution oligarchy.
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Postby stickdog99 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:50 pm

While I think this paper overstates the importance of oil field production to Big Oil's big five, it does present a wealth of important background information about Big Oil's designs on Iraq.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oi ... iniraq.htm

Today, a wave of mergers has given the successor companies a new and unprecedented scale, reducing the major firms to just five. In 2003, annual revenues of the leader, ExxonMobil, were an astonishing $247 billion.3 By way of comparison, Exxon’s revenue is vastly greater than such well-known international companies as Walt Disney ($25 billion) and Coca Cola ($19 billion) and it is larger than the revenues of 185 national governments, including Brazil, Canada, Spain, Sweden and the Netherlands. Only the world’s six richest countries – the US, Japan, Germany, France, Italy and the UK – had revenues above this level. 4

Among the world’s fifteen largest corporations listed in the 2002 “Fortune Global 500,” five were oil companies. After US-based Exxon came the UK giants Shell and British Petroleum (BP), the mammoth French firm Total, and the huge US-based Chevron. Compared to the large automakers, with their anemic profits, the oil companies stand out among the world’s biggest corporations for their high profitability. In 2001 (and again in 2003), Exxon earned the world’s highest profits. In 2003, its earnings reached a record $22 billion, more than General Motors, Ford, DaimlerChrysler and Toyota taken together.5

To understand the special “national security” status enjoyed by the oil companies, we must first consider oil’s economic importance and then its central role in war. Oil provides nearly all the energy for transportation (cars, trucks, buses airplanes, and many railroad engines). Oil also has an important share of other energy inputs – it heats many buildings and fuels industrial and farm equipment, for example. Overall, oil has a 40% share in the US national energy budget. Beyond energy, oil provides lubrication and it is an essential feedstock for plastics, paint, fertilizers and pharmaceuticals. Sometime in the future, the world may switch to renewable energy and other non-oil inputs, but oil now reigns as the indispensable ingredient of the modern economy. For this reason, governments are nervous about their national oil supply.6

Modern warfare particularly depends on oil, because virtually all weapons systems rely on oil-based fuel – tanks, trucks, armored vehicles, self-propelled artillery pieces, airplanes, and naval ships. For this reason, the governments and general staffs of powerful nations seek to ensure a steady supply of oil during wartime, to fuel oil-hungry military forces in far-flung operational theaters. Such governments view their companies’ global interests as synonymous with the national interest and they readily support their companies’ efforts to control new production sources, to overwhelm foreign rivals, and to gain the most favorable pipeline routes and other transportation and distribution channels. “One of our greatest helpers has been the State Department,” mused John D. Rockefeller, founder of Standard Oil in his 1909 book, Random Reminiscences of Men and Events. “Our ambassadors and ministers and consuls have aided to push our way into new markets in the utmost corners of the world.”7

The oil industry gained its crucial role in military affairs during World War I. In the run-up to the war, the world’s navies converted from coal to oil-fired ships, because of significant advantages in speed and range of operation. The war also marked the first military uses of the automobile, truck, tank and airplane. Belligerents on both sides faced severe oil shortages, but the Allies eventually gained the upper hand with vastly greater supplies. Lord Curzon, a member of the British War Cabinet, concluded that “the Allied cause has floated to victory upon a wave of oil.”8

Government policy makers give the highest priority to oil matters during wartime, as many historical studies show. Japanese and German officials made desperate efforts to gain oil sources during World War II while US and British leaders did their utmost to deny them this resource. But even allies could be bitter oil rivals. In many wartime meetings and cables, President Franklin Roosevelt and Prime Minister Winston Churchill wrangled over their countries’ respective post-war shares of Middle East oil reserves.9 After the war, George Kennan, Director of the US State Department’s Policy Planning Division, reacted with unbridled enthusiasm at US oil companies’ primacy (to the exclusion of Britain) in the newly-discovered Saudi Arabia fields. The United States, he wrote, had just acquired “the greatest material prize in world history.”10

Oil Rents, Corruption & Conflict

Just as governments like the US and the UK need oil companies to secure fuel for their global war-making capacity, so the oil companies need their governments’ military power to secure control over global oilfields and transportation routes. It is no accident, then, that the world’s largest oil companies are located in the world’s most powerful countries.

Power has primacy in the oil business, because of the incomparable value of key fields. Production costs vary widely from one place to another, leading to intense competition for the lowest-cost locations. The difference between cost and sales price is so large that economists sometimes refer to the gap as a “rent” – an extraordinary profit enjoyed by a producer with a unique market advantage.11

All producer companies want to gain control of such lucrative profits, by fair means or foul. Company rivalry typically leads beyond ordinary market-based competition. As many studies show, companies and their sponsor governments do not shrink from backing dictatorial governments, using bribery and corruption, promoting civil violence and even resorting to war, to meet their commercial goals and best their competitors.12 The modern history of the Middle East bears witness to this process. In one notorious example, US intelligence services recruited in 1959 a young Iraqi thug named Saddam Hussein to take part in the assassination of Iraqi Prime Minister Abd el-Karim Qasim. Washington feared that the nationalist Qasim might act independently and alter the favorable terms under which their oil companies operated.13 A few years earlier, in 1953, the CIA engineered a coup in Iran, overthrowing the democratic government of Mohammed Mossadegh and installing the autocratic Shah, in order to gain control over Iranian oil and redistribute British production shares to US companies.14

A recent court case in France, involving high officials of the national oil company Elf Aquitaine, provides a glimpse of more recent operations in this world of oil intrigue and covert competition between the giant companies. The case revealed bribes, espionage, sexual favors, arms smuggling, civil strife and plots to overthrow governments, all with the complicity of French military and intelligence services as well as politicians at the highest levels. These actions had a terrible effect on a number of oil-producing countries, mostly in Africa. They spread malfeasance, corruption and anti-democratic practices in France as well. 15

Special Government Favors and “National Security”

Those who deny oil company complicity in the Iraq War always insist that the companies have little political influence, that they are “out of the loop” in Washington, that they are just one industry group among many others. These arguments are utterly false. The oil companies have always enjoyed “insider” privileges with the US and UK governments, resulting in many unique favors in the name of “national security.”

The United States government offers the companies extremely favorable tax treatment, including the “oil depletion allowance” and “intangible drilling costs” – far more than the ordinary capital depreciation available to other companies. In 1960, at the behest of the National Security Council, the international companies obtained the lucrative “foreign tax credit,” enabling deductions for taxes or royalties paid to foreign governments. In 1974, while the US corporate tax rate was 48%, the nineteen largest oil companies paid a tax rate of only 7.6%.16

The companies have also enjoyed unofficial immunity from anti-trust or anti-monopoly laws. Though the US government knew for decades about the international oil cartel, federal authorities took no enforcement action until 1952, when President Harry Truman ordered a criminal anti-trust suit. The companies mobilized all their legal and political muscle to quash the case. General Omar Bradley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, reportedly approached the President and successfully urged that the “national security” required a softening of the government’s legal stance. Shortly afterwards, the National Security Council decided on various limitations to the suit that further weakened the government’s case. Though the judicial process lumbered on for fifteen years, the oil companies had nothing to fear and remained safely protected by the national security umbrella. Today, after a decade of mega-mergers, the companies still escape anti-trust scrutiny.17

US military/security policy has served the oil companies as comprehensively as have the tax and legal rulings. Virtually every US presidential security doctrine since World War II has aimed at protecting company interests in the oil-rich Persian Gulf. The Truman Doctrine, the Eisenhower Doctrine, and the Nixon, Carter, and Reagan Doctrines all asserted Washington’s special concerns in the Gulf and arrogated to the United States special rights to “protect” or “defend” the area. Recently-released secret papers show that during the oil crisis and Arab oil embargo of 1973, Washington seriously considered sending a military strike force to seize some of the region’s richest fields – in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Abu Dhabi.18

In 1979, President Jimmy Carter set up the US Central Command, a permanent military force designed to intervene in the Middle East on short notice. Presidents have expanded and strengthened this force several times since. Headquartered in Florida, but with a number of bases in the Middle East, the command maintains pre-positioned supplies and heavy weapons at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean and it can call on strike aircraft units, global satellite intelligence, cruise missiles, rapidly deployable ground troops and carrier-based naval fleets.19

In testimony to Congress in 1999, General Anthony C. Zinni, commanding officer of the Central Command, affirmed the importance of the Persian Gulf region, with its huge oil reserves. It is a “vital interest” of “long standing,” he said, and the United States “must have free access to the region’s resources.”20

Close Personal Ties between Companies and Governments

Given the close political relations between the oil companies and their governments, it should be no surprise to find close ties at the personal level binding companies and governments together. The career of Allen Dulles serves as a case in point. He began as a US diplomat in the Middle East and rose to be chief of the Near East section of the State Department. In the early 1920s, he led the campaign to win US oil firms’ participation in Iraq. Later he served as a corporate lawyer at Sullivan and Cromwell, New York’s leading counsel for the oil industry. After wartime intelligence service, he was named head of the CIA by President Eisenhower. As CIA chief, he arranged for the overthrow of Mossadegh, winning a place in Iran’s rich oil fields for US firms. In every assignment he consistently served company interests.21

Max Thornberg came to the US State Department as senior petroleum advisor in 1941, directly from Bahrein Petroleum, a joint venture of Standard Oil of California. Thornberg operated nearly independently of his government superiors. He continued to receive his company salary, informed company executives of private government meetings and actively promoted company proposals. He apparently could not conceive of a conflict of interest. Having worked in the industry his whole life, he thought of industry goals and those of the US government as being identical.22

The administration of President George W. Bush represents an especially close set of personal ties between the oil companies and the government – at the very highest level. The president and his father were both longtime industry insiders from Texas and chief executives of their own oil companies. Other oil figures at the top of the administration include Vice President Dick Cheney, former CEO of Halliburton, the nation’s largest oil-services company, and National Security Advisor Condolezza Rice, a former director of Chevron Texaco, after whom the company named one of its supertankers. These very visible figures give the administration its peculiarly strong oil flavor. In the earliest days of the administration, they promoted a number of striking industry-favorable policy decisions, such as the rejection of the Kyoto Treaty on global warming, the ouster of the head of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and the elaboration of a strongly pro-oil national energy plan.

In the UK, close ties likewise bind companies and successive governments together, The government even held a majority stake in BP, with seats on the board, until 1987. By contrast to the United States, where the oil companies are first among such peers as General Motors, Walmart and Citigroup, in the UK, oil giants Shell and BP tower far above the next tier firms like British Telecom, Unilever and ICI.23 From such heights, UK oil executives speak almost as unofficial members of government. In recent years, a number of personal ties stand out, especially the close friendship between Prime Minister Tony Blair and BP CEO John Browne (Lord Browne of Maddingley). The Blair-Browne relationship was so close that wags in the press called the company “Blair Petroleum,” though it would have been more accurate to say that Blair was the BP Prime Minister. At least a dozen BP executives held government posts or sat on official advisory committees, including Browne’s immediate predecessor David Simon (Lord Simon of Highbury). Simon had stepped down as BP CEO to serve as Blair’s unelected Minister for European Trade and Competitiveness from May 1997 to July 1999.24 Later on, Tony Blair’s longtime friend and personal assistant Anjl Hunter, director of government relations and known as “the gatekeeper” in Downing Street, joined BP as head of public relations in the summer of 2002, just as the war was actively brewing.25

After a century of closely-combined action on the global stage, company chieftans and government leaders see their relationship as cooperative and thoroughly complementary. In April, 2003, shortly after the war in Iraq, Lord Browne responded tartly to critics by saying: “It is quite ethical and appropriate for a global company, based in the UK, to be supported by the British government.”26 He did not, of course, go into the details.

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The Exceptional Lure of Iraqi Oil

Constant wars hint at the exceptional lure of Iraq’s oil fields. Iraq’s oil is of good quality, it exists in great quantity, and it is very cheap to produce, offering the world’s most extraordinary and profitable oil rents.

Officially, Iraq’s reserves are stated as 112 billion barrels, the world’s second largest after Saudi Arabia. According to the US Department of Energy, Iraq’s real reserves may be far greater – as much as 3-400 billion barrels after further prospecting.35 Iraq’s Senior Deputy Oil Minister confirmed high estimates on May 22, 2002, in an interview with Platts, a leading industry information source. He said: “we will exceed 300 billion barrels when all Iraq’s regions are explored,” and he went on to affirm that “Iraq will [then] be the number one holder of oil reserves in the world.”36

Iraq’s oil is the world’s cheapest to produce, at a cost of only about $1 per barrel. The gigantic “rent” on Iraq’s oil, during decades of production, could yield company profits in the range of $4-5 trillion dollars – that is, $4-5 million, millions. Assuming fifty years of production and 40% royalties, Iraq could yield annual profits of $80-90 billion per year – more than the total annual profits of the top five companies, even in the banner year of 2003.37

As the world’s other oilfields seriously deplete during the next two decades, global production will increasingly depend on the enormous reserves of the Persian Gulf region. Iraq will then represent a large and increasing percentage of the world’s supplies – perhaps over thirty percent. An international company must hold a serious stake in Iraq if it is to retain its status as a major player in the world’s oil industry. The Anglo-American giants know they must gain the lion’s share in Iraq or decline irrevocably.

Shortly before the war, industry experts described Iraq as a future “gold rush,” where the companies would battle to gain control of key reserves.38 At that time, a well-informed diplomat at the UN commented bluntly: “Exxon wants Majnoun and they are determined to get it.”39 And a longtime industry observer said: “There is not an oil company in the world that doesn‘t have its eye on Iraq.”40

Control of Reserves

Oil companies’ future profits – and their current share prices and market capitalization – depend to a large degree on their control of reserves. The 1972 oil nationalizations in Iraq pushed the US and UK companies completely out of the country. Before that date, they held a three-quarter share of the Iraq Petroleum Company, including Iraq’s entire national reserves. After 1972, all that oil disappeared from their balance sheets.

In the 1980s and 90s, their rivals in France, Russia and even Japan and China began to make deals that led towards lucrative production sharing agreements, allowing those competitors to gain a large potential share of Iraq’s oil reserves. The sanctions regime, enforced under the United Nations and maintained at the insistence of the US and UK from 1990 to 2003, prevented these deals from coming to fruition, thus protecting the future stake of the US-UK companies.

In recent years, as older fields worldwide have dwindled, the companies have faced rising replacement costs for their reserves. According to a 2002 report by energy consultants John S. Herold, “finding costs” for new reserves rose 61% in 2001, pushing replacement costs to $5.31 a barrel.41 “Finding new sources of oil has become the industry’s main challenge, as old fields in North America and Europe are being tapped out,” commented the Wall Street Journal in early 2003.42 Imagine, then, the lure of the vast Iraqi fields, offering nearly free acquisition and a huge addition to total reserves. As Fadel Gheit of Fahnstock & Co. in New York concluded, Iraq “would be a logical place in the future for oil companies to replace their reserves.”43

New Iraq Contracts and Moves toward War

The big US-UK companies made no secret of their strong desire for Iraqi oil. BP and Shell conducted secret negotiations with Saddam Hussein, while Exxon and Chevron took a harder line and waited for Washington to eliminate Saddam covertly. In 1997, as the sanctions lost international support, Russia’s Lukoil, France’s Total, China National and other companies struck deals with the government of Iraq for production sharing in some of Iraq’s biggest and most lucrative fields. Lukoil reached an agreement for West Qurna, Total got Majnoun, while China National signed on for North Rumaila, near the Kuwaiti border.44 Paris, Moscow and Beijing, as Permanent Members in the UN Security Council pressed for an easing of the sanctions, with support from a growing number of other countries. Grassroots movements, concerned about Iraq’s humanitarian crisis, called on the UN Security Council to end the sanctions forthwith.

In 1997-98, the US companies saw the writing on the wall. With Iranian fields already slipping into the hands of competitors, such losses in Iraq threatened to reduce them to second rank and confront them with fierce international competition and downward profit pressure. The companies stepped up their lobbying in Washington and made their wishes for Iraq oil crystal clear. “Iraq possesses huge reserves of oil and gas – reserves I’d love Chevron to have access to,” enthused Chevron CEO Kenneth T. Derr in a speech at the Commonwealth Club of San Francisco.45

Almost as soon as Iraq signed the new oil agreements, Washington began to deploy military forces near the country’s borders in a very threatening forward posture. Operation Phoenix Scorpion and Operation Desert Thunder in various phases lasted almost continuously from November 1997 through December 1998. In Washington, the rhetoric grew increasingly hard-line and threatening. On January 26, 1998 members of the right-wing Project for a New American Century sent a letter to President Bill Clinton warning that the containment policy “has been steadily eroding over the past several month” and calling for “removing Saddam Hussein from power.”46 CIA sources told journalists and members of Congress that Saddam was hiding large stocks of deadly weapons. Congress held hearings and began drafting legislation. The President asked the Pentagon to plan a variety of military options, ranging from limited strikes (later designated Operation Desert Fox) to full-scale war (Operation Desert Lion).

On May 1, President Clinton signed a law that provided $5 million in funding for the Iraqi opposition and set up “Radio Free Iraq.” That was only the beginning. On May 29, the Project for a New American Century sent an open letter to Congress on Iraq, insisting that the US government was not sufficiently firm with Saddam, attacking what it called the President’s “capitulation” and warning of severe “consequence” to US interests. Among the signatories of this high-profile letter were Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Elliot Abrams, John Bolton and others who would later take high posts in the Bush administration.47 The Clinton White House was ready to oblige. On August 14, the President signed another law (PL 105-235) that accused Iraq of building weapons of mass destruction and failing to cooperate with UN inspectors, declaring ominously: “Iraq is in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations.” Finally, on October 31, the President signed the “Iraq Liberation Act of 1998” (PL 105-338), a text still more bellicose. “It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq,” read the key sentence. In London, government leaders made similar expressions of determination and a UK Strategic Defence Review of July 1998 affirmed readiness to use force. “Outside Europe,” the Review concluded, “the greatest risks to our national economic and political interests . . . will remain in the Gulf.”48

On December 16-19, 1998, the US-UK launched Operation Desert Fox. Hundreds of strike aircraft and cruise missiles hit Baghdad and other major Iraqi targets, including an oil refinery. The attacks ended the UN arms inspection program, pre-empting any declaration that Iraq was nearly free of mass destruction weapons. Following Desert Fox, US-UK air forces patrolled the “no-fly” zones with new, more aggressive rules of engagement and regular attacks on Iraqi targets.

This increasingly aggressive policy towards Iraq expressed a hardening conviction among leaders in the US and the UK that Saddam Hussein could not be ousted by covert means, and that invasion and direct control over Iraq’s oil would now be required.

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The companies, it should be said, are not in a great hurry. They plan and act on decades-long time horizons. They can wait out the insecurity of the present if the precious Iraqi oil fields fall dependably into their hands sometime in the next few years. But it is by no means certain that the Anglo-American giants will get their way as easily in Iraq as they did in Washington. As they wait, the violence of pacification and resistance engulfs the country. War number eight gets under way.

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Postby TVC15 » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:03 am

Greetings all.

I believe Peak Oil is indeed a scam .

Heck, even the oil guys say so:

Peak oil theories wrong, oil boss says
September 11, 2006 - 2:04PM

The world has an abundant supply of oil, and high petrol prices are just the reality of a globally-traded commodity, ExxonMobil Australia chairman Mark Nolan says.

Mr Nolan used his speech to the Asia Pacific oil and gas conference in Adelaide on Monday to debunk the theory of peak oil, which suggests oil supplies have peaked and will dwindle over the next 20 years.

Such predictions, he said, had been around since the 1920s, particularly at times of high oil prices.

"The fact is that the world has an abundance of oil and there is little question, scientifically, that abundant energy resources exist," Mr Nolan said.

"According to the US Geological Survey, the earth currently has more than three trillion barrels of conventional, recoverable oil resources.

"So far we have produced one trillion."

Mr Nolan said the oil industry had always underestimated the extent of global resources and the ability of technology to both extend the life of existing oil and gas fields and find new ones.

"We should not forget that we can recover almost twice as much oil today as when we first discovered it over 100 years ago," he said.

"And when you consider that a further 10 per cent increase in recoverability will deliver 800 billion barrels of oil to our recoverable total, we have every reason to be sure that the end of oil is nowhere in sight."


Mr Nolan said that by 2030, conventional fossil fuels (oil, gas and coal) would still account for 80 per cent of the world's energy requirements.

But Mr Nolan said it was very difficult to predict what would happen in the future with both crude oil and petrol prices.

"They are both regionally traded commodities, they are priced by the market, priced by the region," he said.

"The fuel price is ultimately driven by the source of the product, which is the crude price, and of course that is traded regionally and internationally."

Mr Nolan's comments were endorsed by the president of the Society of Petroleum Engineers, Eve Sprunt, who said the proponents of peak oil theory often confused oil reserves with available resources.

"When you are talking about reserves, you are only talking about a very small fraction of the total resource base," she said.

"The reserves are the portion for which the infrastructure is largely in place, the technology is in place and that can be produced at the current oil price.

"But if you are planning for the long-term energy future of your country you need to understand the resource base.

"The whole name of the game is moving resources into the reserves category."

Ms Sprunt said high oil prices also presented opportunities such as the viable development of other fuels.

"It's a time when new alternatives emerge," she said.

© 2006 AAP

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Postby stickdog99 » Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:19 am

Exactly. Big Oil doesn't want oil to be priced too high for too long or viable alternatives might emerge. That's why cheap Middle Eastern oil is so important to them -- so they can keep the price between $50 and $100 a barrel and still make a killing. They want it both ways. High prices but not so high to spur investment and production in decentralized renewable alternatives.
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Postby yablonsky » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:03 am

CERA and (cough) Dave Magowan seriously disagreeing with it


as an aside, here is what macgowan says in newsletter #55

"This much is known, Kenneth Deffeyes writes, "the loudest warnings about the predicted peak of world oil production came from Petroconsultants" (Deffeyes, 2001: p. 7).


In a late 1998 merger Petroconsultants became IHS Energy Group, a subsidiary of Information Handling Services Group (IHS Group), a diversified conglomerate owned by Holland America Investment Corp., IHS Group's immediate parent company, for the Thyssen-Bornemisza Group (TBG, Inc.). In the 1920s George Herbert Walker and his son-in- law, Prescott Bush, had helped the Thyssen dynasty finance its acquisitions through Union Banking Corp. and Holland-American Trading Corp. (Wikipedia, 2003)


CERA *is* an IHS company.

http://www.cera.com/aspx/cda/public1/about/about.aspx

what conclusion is to be drawn from this i leave to others - i have no idea.
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Postby wintler2 » Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:20 am

stickdog99 wrote:Look at this: http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/oil/
To the page by Radford Media Studies Prof. Bill Kovarik? He says the USGS 2000 'statistical estimation' of all recoverable + unconventional oil (incl. tar sands etc) reserves is superior to BP's record of what we've actually found. I thought Big Oil was supposed to be part of the scam.

Its a shame oil discovery since 2000 hasn't nearly met the USGS's novel forecasts http://www.theoildrum.com/story/2006/1/10/18361/4455, no surprise given the many flaws in their methods. See
W. Zittel, J. Schindler, L-B-Systemtechnik, "The Countdown for the Peak of Oil Production has Begun - but what are the Views of the Most Important International Energy Agencies", 12 October 2004.
http://www.odac-info.org/links/document ... -10-12.pdf

Jean H. Laherrère, "Is USGS 2000 Assessment Reliable?", May 2, 2000.
http://www.hubbertpeak.com/laherrere/usgs2000/

Glenn Morton, "USGS Estimate of Oil Supply", Post to the American
Scientific Affiliation (ASA) list, September 27, 2001. Morton is a
geologist with Kerr-McGee in Scotland.
http://www.asa3.org/archive/asa/200109/0226.html

Colin J. Campbell, "Explaining the Failure of the U.S. Geological
Survey", ASPO-ODAC Newsletter #16 (April 2002), item 44, pp. 5-6.
http://www.energiekrise.de/e/news/aspo/ ... ter016.pdf

Jean H. Laherrère, "Do the Last 6 Years of Production Confirm the
USGS Forecast for the Period 1996-2025?", August 2002.
http://www.oilcrisis.com/laherrere/ConfUSGS_27_08.pdf
(hattip Dave Delaney http://davidmdelaney.blogspot.com/, a fellow roeoz@yahoogroups member)


stickdog99 wrote:Just because much of the "oil in the ground" belongs to "national" oil companies doesn't mean that Big Oil won't reap most of the benefits of higher prices. Big Oil (since the days of good old Standard) has always been far more about oil distribution than production.
Were you going somewhere with this? Get over your binary worldview, oil co's are very big and powerful but the world is a big place too and they no longer make all the rules - you seem to have somehow missed Putin & Chavez making the western oil co's dance. How is this part of the global scam you claim?

stickdog99 wrote:
wintler wrote: price spikes are leading governments to raise royalties & consider windfall taxes/subsidy cuts.

This is some hilarious rhetoric. High oil prices that result in windfall profits are not aligned with Big Oil interests because some governments (the ones not controlled by Big Oil?) might someday notice them and cap and/or tax them and/or cut off some of Big Oil's corporate welfare? By the same token, are we to believe that it's not lucky to win the superlotto either-- since you'll just get taxed and have your food stamps taken away?
Its not binary, i was pointing out that generalisations like 'high price good for Big Oil' are stupid. High prices are obviously in Big Oils short term interests, but look what they've been doing with their profits - either shovelling it out to management and shareholders or buying up renewable energy companies. Oil exploration is declining everywhere its not a 100%+ tax break, possibly something to do with fact oil discovery has been declining for nearly forty years.

stickdog99 wrote:Considering Iraq, just because 4 million barrels a day has been some sort of benchmark for Big Oil to come in destroy Iraq's infrastructure with military upheaval doesn't mean that it is some sort of hard limit on Iraq's production. What reason do you have to believe that Iraq's oil production couldn't very easily surpass 10 million barrels a day if only Big Oil would stop blowing the damn country to bits for a decade?
Because no nations except Saudi Arabia, Russia and possibly the US ever have, and they each started with much bigger reserves and capital than Iraq ever had. Its good to start talking about flow rates tho, they're more signif in determining peak & decline rates than the various reserves estimates.

stickdog99 wrote:And if you aren't arguing that oil is about to run out, what's the big deal?
No, never have, as i've several times said. To steal from a star, 'is this mike on?'

stickdog99 wrote:Oil prices will rise making alternative energy sources more attractive. Big Oil and the US military it directs simply want to control and profit from this inevitability and keep anyone else from getting a piece of their current and longstanding energy distribution oligarchy. They will be perfectly content to switch over to distributing alternative energy sources once they have bled us dry on their timetable. The key from their point of view to keep decentralized renewable energy sources from reaching critical mass in the energy marketplace while keeping enough of us hooked on oil until they diversify to other sources of energy that they can distribute with the same oligarchic stranglehold.

Very likely, under business-as-usual, and thats what i'm afraid of, cos it means power will be ever more concentrated in those hands - thats the problem. I hope knowledge of truth of situation will help all make better decisions for them and theirs, eg. don't go a 50yr mortgage on a car-dependant cardboard house.
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Postby wintler2 » Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:45 am

TVC15 wrote:Greetings all.
I believe Peak Oil is indeed a scam .
Heck, even the oil guys say so:
Peak oil theories wrong, oil boss says
September 11, 2006 - 2:04PM...

Hi TVC15, thanks for contributing yr first post. Uh, thats one oil guy, singular, an Exxon regional manager. Others are quite open about thinking we're close or there.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... C50P61.DTL
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... world_news
http://www.thebulletin.org/article.php? ... j05cavallo
http://www.willyoujoinus.com/

If peak oil is the scam you say it is, why did Sonoma State University's Project Censored declare it one of the most censored stories of 2003-2004? http://www.projectcensored.org/publicat ... 05/18.html Surely, if "Peak Oil is Big Oil propaganda", Big Oil would have found a way to get it off the pages of under-funded publications like Project Censored and onto the pages of the mainstream papers and into the 24/7 cable news cycle years ago. (hattip LATOC)
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Postby wintler2 » Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:08 am

yablonsky wrote:
CERA and (cough) Dave Magowan seriously disagreeing with it


as an aside, here is what macgowan says in newsletter #55

"This much is known, Kenneth Deffeyes writes, "the loudest warnings about the predicted peak of world oil production came from Petroconsultants" (Deffeyes, 2001: p. 7).


In a late 1998 merger Petroconsultants became IHS Energy Group, a subsidiary of Information Handling Services Group (IHS Group), a diversified conglomerate owned by Holland America Investment Corp., IHS Group's immediate parent company, for the Thyssen-Bornemisza Group (TBG, Inc.). In the 1920s George Herbert Walker and his son-in- law, Prescott Bush, had helped the Thyssen dynasty finance its acquisitions through Union Banking Corp. and Holland-American Trading Corp. (Wikipedia, 2003)


CERA *is* an IHS company.

http://www.cera.com/aspx/cda/public1/about/about.aspx

what conclusion is to be drawn from this i leave to others - i have no idea.
Hi yablonsky, you meaning the contrary analyses that have come out of apparently the same dataset?

CERA is a subsidiary of IHS but wont say or show what data are they using in their recent rosy forecasts.
Maybe moral is 'examine the mouthpiece And the message'.

IHS is not the only font of knowledge of course, amongst others K.Deffeyes (PRof. in geology at Princeton Uni) and S.Bahktiari (former VP of Iranian National Oil Co.) have each compiled similar datasets (using different production models) with results much closer to the ASPO forecast than the USGS or CERA. ODAC in London have done excellent megaproject studies to forecast extraction from infrastructure development. And Khebab & Westexas of theoildrum.com have championed a refined hubbert linearisation which is providing startlingly accurate forecasts from past production records.
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