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DURING MOST OF THE 20TH CENTURY, the type of propaganda that has been hurled at academic artists is so insidious that people have been literally trained to discredit, out-of-hand, any work containing well-crafted figures or elements, or any other evidence of technical mastery. All the beauty and subtlety of emotions, -- interplay of composition, design and theme, -- the interlacing of color, tone and mood, -- are never seen. The viewer has been taught that academic painting on a prima facie basis is bad by definition -- bad by virtue of its resorting to the use of human figures, themes or stories and objects from the real world.

Stuckism was founded a few years ago in England by figurative painters who were sick of the tyranny of postmodern art. The name Stuckist was based on an insult. A prize winning conceptual artist hurled an insult at a realist painter, saying: "You're stuck! Stuck, stuck, stuck!" Thus a movement was born. Stuckists were outraged that the United Kingdom's highest honor for artistic achievement, the vaunted Turner Prize, was being handed out to people who didn't even paint (the irony being that JMW Turner, the artist after which the prize was named, was one of England's greatest painters). Stuckistas released a manifesto that insolently proclaimed...
"Those who do not paint are not artists!"
The rhetoric of revolutionaries can often sound inflammatory and unreasonable, but the Stuckists do have a point. When the 2002 Turner Prize of $40,000 was awarded to Keith Tyson for having created a large black monolithic block filled with discarded computers, not a single Painter had been considered as a possible recipient of the prize. Fiona Banner, Turner Prize finalist for 2002, entered a billboard emblazoned with pornographic text. Co-finalist, Liam Gillick, offered a ceiling constructed of multicolored plastic. Previous prize winning entries included a dead sheep in formaldehyde by Damian Hirst, a portrait of the Virgin Mary "painted" with elephant dung by Chris Ofili, and a white room with a single light bulb that blinked on and off by Martin Creed. Past finalist Tracy Emin entered an unmade bed soiled with condoms and tampons.
A major blow to the fortress-like walls of the postmodern art establishment was delivered in December of 2002 just prior to the annual Turner Prize awards, when U.K. Culture Minister, Kim Howells ignited a firestorm of argument over exactly what art should be in the present period. Dr Howells, publicly upset over the quality of entries for the 2002 Turner Prize, stated flatly, "If this is the best British artists can produce then British art is lost. It is cold, mechanical, conceptual bullshit."
Howells went on to encourage new artists to oppose the "new orthodoxy... the art establishment is a very small elite which believes it has a monopoly of wisdom when it comes to art."
JackRiddler wrote:Someone's going to have to explain in ideas, not squeals, why an Anubis statue to promote the King Tut exhibition is prima facie a bad thing. Is it Anubis? The Tut exhibition? The fact that it's at the Airport of Evil?
semper occultus wrote:I dunno though - the whole "conceptual" art thing did de-generate into a celeb-driven up-its-own-arse piss-take
"Those who do not paint are not artists!"
A major blow to the fortress-like walls of the postmodern art establishment
U.K. Culture Minister
slomo wrote:JackRiddler wrote:Someone's going to have to explain in ideas, not squeals, why an Anubis statue to promote the King Tut exhibition is prima facie a bad thing. Is it Anubis? The Tut exhibition? The fact that it's at the Airport of Evil?
In and of itself, there is nothing wrong with Anubis. As a practicing pagan, I respect Anubis' position in the Egyptian pantheon, and the general archetype which He represents. The trouble I have with Denver Airport is the collective vibe created by the various murals and artwork there. It's like they are trying to create a temple to the Underworld. OK, that's fine, the gods all deserve their due, but can we not pretend that we are a "Christian Nation" anymore? Let's just admit that we are a nation that follows the extremely old ways, including that good-old-fashioned offering to the Nameless Ones, human sacrifice? Because otherwise we are just being dishonest with ourselves.
JackRiddler wrote:slomo wrote:JackRiddler wrote:Someone's going to have to explain in ideas, not squeals, why an Anubis statue to promote the King Tut exhibition is prima facie a bad thing. Is it Anubis? The Tut exhibition? The fact that it's at the Airport of Evil?
In and of itself, there is nothing wrong with Anubis. As a practicing pagan, I respect Anubis' position in the Egyptian pantheon, and the general archetype which He represents. The trouble I have with Denver Airport is the collective vibe created by the various murals and artwork there. It's like they are trying to create a temple to the Underworld. OK, that's fine, the gods all deserve their due, but can we not pretend that we are a "Christian Nation" anymore? Let's just admit that we are a nation that follows the extremely old ways, including that good-old-fashioned offering to the Nameless Ones, human sacrifice? Because otherwise we are just being dishonest with ourselves.
The scary propaganda about the luciferian DIA comes from a strain of those who believe in a "Christian Nation" but "we" are not a "Christian Nation," and anyone who wants that is enemy to this American born.
Who's the board at DIA who commissions the art? They may not be "Christian nation," but they're also not running the nation, if most other places are an indication. Go down the road to the Air Force Academy and Colorado Springs -- now there's an institution of Death, Ueber Alles -- and check out the all-too living "Christian nation." It's not Christian in a sense the New Testament Christ character would recognize, but very Christian in the way it's meant by those Americans who would call this a "Christian nation."

slomo wrote:JackRiddler wrote:slomo wrote:JackRiddler wrote:Someone's going to have to explain in ideas, not squeals, why an Anubis statue to promote the King Tut exhibition is prima facie a bad thing. Is it Anubis? The Tut exhibition? The fact that it's at the Airport of Evil?
In and of itself, there is nothing wrong with Anubis. As a practicing pagan, I respect Anubis' position in the Egyptian pantheon, and the general archetype which He represents. The trouble I have with Denver Airport is the collective vibe created by the various murals and artwork there. It's like they are trying to create a temple to the Underworld. OK, that's fine, the gods all deserve their due, but can we not pretend that we are a "Christian Nation" anymore? Let's just admit that we are a nation that follows the extremely old ways, including that good-old-fashioned offering to the Nameless Ones, human sacrifice? Because otherwise we are just being dishonest with ourselves.
The scary propaganda about the luciferian DIA comes from a strain of those who believe in a "Christian Nation" but "we" are not a "Christian Nation," and anyone who wants that is enemy to this American born.
Who's the board at DIA who commissions the art? They may not be "Christian nation," but they're also not running the nation, if most other places are an indication. Go down the road to the Air Force Academy and Colorado Springs -- now there's an institution of Death, Ueber Alles -- and check out the all-too living "Christian nation." It's not Christian in a sense the New Testament Christ character would recognize, but very Christian in the way it's meant by those Americans who would call this a "Christian nation."
Fair enough. Still, there is a vibe there at Denver Airport (and, actually, all of Denver, if you want my honest opinion) of death worship. Again, that's fine, every god deserves his temple. But our whole nation is basically a death-cult, "Christian" or not. We refuse to come to terms with that. I'm just commenting on the way it seems to seep out of our unconscious and into public life, in metaphoric ways (i.e. art) as well as literal (i.e. all of the whiz-bang technology created by our military for the express purpose of killing large numbers).
Nordic wrote:slomo wrote: Still, there is a vibe there at Denver Airport (and, actually, all of Denver, if you want my honest opinion) of death worship. /quote]
You're gonna have to explain that, because I lived in Denver for years and sure never picked up on that little detail.
I was living there when DIA was announced, and built, and if I remember correctly, part of the deal to move the airport and build a new one involved giving the new airport a HUGE budget for artwork. I mean, it was big. So look no farther than whoever they appointed to be in charge of that. Because again, the airport people just did that as part of their deal, so I don't think they really cared once they were able to start construction. I'm pretty sure they gave carte blanche in other words.
But all that aside, you REALLY need to explain about the "death worship vibe" in Denver. Where exactly?


JackRiddler wrote:You may be right about a pattern, but that doesn't mean any and every specific event can be forced into the pattern.
I don't understand why Las Vegas - all of it - hasn't inspired the same alarm.
That's not even Luxor, it's Giza. Ah, never mind.
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