Fuck Ron Paul

[philipacentaur]

In spite of the pro Israel lobby effort to make a mountain out this, it isn't working.

Hahaha -- WHAT?

[ninakat]

Who out there hates Ron Paul? Sean Hannity, Michelle Malkin, and the entire ZioNazi, neoCON cabal.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

I love his constitutional positions on taxation, war, federal reserve, military-industrial complex, etc. and I hate many of his other positions where he embraces the idea that social problems (incl. social security, medicare, welfare) should be taken care of by private interests. You know, lots of churches in the inner cities are just going to have a few big bake sales or something?

So, I love him and I hate him. Doesn't leave me with much. Besides, I'm with Masonic on not voting again, so it really doesn't matter to me since there are no longer ANY political solutions for this country. I just see a lot of people flocking to Ron Paul as some sort of savior of our disaster.

[11:11]

Rant all you want, but just as Ron Paul says, "feedom is popular". So simple, and so threatening, isn't it?

And sounds exactly like something G.W. Bush would say. Too simple. And that's what's scary.

Although not quite as scary as your incessant anti-Semite rantings around here.

Anti semite? Arabs are semites, are they not? You mean anti Israel. Yeah, I'm not in favor fascism and murder.


Quite intersting the opening post also disses Ralph Nader.

[yathrib]

Anti semite? Arabs are semites, are they not?

Here we go... Geez, I wonder why the Palestinian rights movement can't get any traction? Maybe it's because normal people don't want to be associated with rabid racists who don't even have the integrity to admit to being racists, but instead insist on quibbling over what the definition of "is" is? Would you still support Ron Paul if we could find a photo of him standing next to Jews?

[11:11]

Anti semite? Arabs are semites, are they not?

Here we go... Geez, I wonder why the Palestinian rights movement can't get any traction? Maybe it's because normal people don't want to be associated with rabid racists who don't even have the integrity to admit to being racists, but instead insist on quibbling over what the definition of "is" is? Would you still support Ron Paul if we could find a photo of him standing next to Jews?

Palestinian rights movement can't get any traction? Maybe it's because normal people don't want to be associated with rabid racists


wow

[11:11]

Armchair Activist: Congressional Haters of Israel


The following is a list of US Senators and Members of the House of Representatives who voted "No" on the resolutions of May 2, 2002 that supported Israel. It is incumbent upon every American supporter of the state of Israel to work to defeat these individuals when they come up for reelection.

SENATORS VOTING "NO" (2)
Robert Byrd, Dem., West Virginia
Ernest Hollings, Dem., South Carolina


HOUSE MEMBERS VOTING "NO" (21) Neil Abercrombie, Dem., Hawaii David E. Bonior, Dem., Michigan
Rick Boucher, Dem., Viriginia Gary A. Condit, Dem., California
John Conyers Jr., Dem., Michigan Peter A. DeFazio, Dem., Oregon
John D. Dingell, Dem., Michigan Earl F. Hilliard, Dem., Alabama
Jay Inslee, Dem., Washington Jesse L. Jackson Jr., Dem., Illinois
Gerald D. Kleczka, Dem., Wisconsin Barbara Lee, Dem., California
Cynthia A. McKinney, Dem., Georgia George Miller, Dem., California
David R. Obey, Dem., Wisconsin Ron Paul, Rep., Texas
Thomas E. Petri, Rep., Wisconsin Nick J. Rahall II, Dem., West Virginia
Dana Rohrabacher, Rep., California Nick Smith, Rep., Michigan
Fortney Pete Stark, Dem., California

http://www.jdl.org/action/armchair/cong ... rael.shtml

[philipacentaur]

So Israel is behind this "Suicide Girls" blog article? I don't get it. Why the fuck are you even mentioning Israel at all on this thread?

[nomo]

So Israel is behind this "Suicide Girls" blog article? I don't get it. Why the fuck are you even mentioning Israel at all on this thread?

It's because Stormfront *loves* Ron Paul, and that means he's being set up by Je-, er, Zionists who are out to destroy him.

[11:11]

So Israel is behind this "Suicide Girls" blog article? I don't get it. Why the fuck are you even mentioning Israel at all on this thread?

From the opening post:


Ron Paul would collapse the Jewish infrastructure in this country.

[philipacentaur]

So Israel is behind this "Suicide Girls" blog article? I don't get it. Why the fuck are you even mentioning Israel at all on this thread?

From the opening post:


Ron Paul would collapse the Jewish infrastructure in this country.

It was clear to me (and probably a majority of readers) that the focus of the article was not the quotes from Stormfront.

If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.

[overcoming hope]

Who could possibly root for this waste product after reading this?

I'll still vote for him, but I have to admit I can't stand John Stossel.

[MASONIC PLOT]

I wouldnt vote for any of them. They are all pretty much criminals on one level or another. The nature of the beast is such that they need a lot of money to win elections, if they arent taking money from corporations then they are taking it from wealthy private donors. Wealthy private donors often have even more sinister agendas than the fucking multi-national corporations. Anyway you look at it they are compromised and beholden to someone who paid their way. Fuck voting. Fuck the political process. Reject the entire charade en mass and lets bring about some real, lasting and valuable change.


Take the money out of politics and I will consider participating in the process, until then, fuck it, complete waste of time. The last election accomplished ZERO, NOTHING, NADA. Democrats took over and its the same old shit just another day. This dog and pony show we call elections has been going on for hundreds of years and its the same old shit, nothing ever gets better it only gets worse. With each election they become more bold and confident in committing their crimes. Any vote, no matter who it is for, is a vote in favor of a corrupt political process in which the cards are clearly and obviously stacked in favor of the criminals.

[robert d reed]

I read another article on Ron Paul's newsletter somewhere, and he claimed that he was not the author of any of those comments- but that he didn't want to disavow the newsletter, either, so he took responsibility for them.

What I find interesting about the Ron Paul phenomenon is the opening to actually break open the ossified ruts of discussion in American politics- the homilies, the cliches, the taboo topics...understand, I realize that Ron Paul's formulations aren't exactly free of cliche themselves. But unlike the professional dissemblers who comprise the vast majority of Demopub-type politicians, Paul presently gives the impression of being a quite direct and sincere exponent of his bare-bones views on the government- health care, for instance. What he deserves is a knowledgable questioner- another MD, say, who favors single-payer health care- to challenge him and buttonhole him on specifics. Because libertarian ideological cant is just like any other ideological cant- too damned vague, spun of fantasy and sophistry. Would Ron Paul's ideas lead to more corporatism or less corporatism, for instance? What does he think of corporatism, for that matter- is it a legitimate expression of capitalist enterprise, or its ultimate perversion?

I want to hear what Ron Paul has to say. Including his massively dumbshit remarks, like wanting John Stossel to be his running mate, LOL...at least his words have some novel information value, in terms of their higher index of unpredictability as compared with the usual politico fare in this country.

Also consider the fact that if actually elected, Ron Paul would be handily checked and checkmated on a regular basis by the garden variety 2-party types who would still comprise the vast majority of of Congressional Representatives. No president can run a full frontal policy attack at the House and the Senate- especially on their power of the purse. Mandate or no mandate.

But between the thesis and the antithesis, it might be possible to make some headway.

And really, the guy is not going to re-criminalize abortion all by his lonesome. If the American people do elect him, they won't be electing him to do that.

I give Bloomberg and Hagel more of a shot, and they haven't even officially announced. imo, all they really need to do is lift two Libertarian positions- anti-imperialism and a moderate measure of drug law reform, and they have it sewed up.

I'd like to see them advocate a massive public works and infrastructure program- God knows, it would be anything but a "make-work project"...failing to maintain the water works, public buildings, transportation grid, etc. of this country is the equivalent of an automobile owner's refusing to change the oil, lube the bearings, and replace the water hoses in the cooling system because "it costs too much." What's it going to take, a cholera epidemic? A roof falling in at an elementary school? The closing of Waikiki Beach for weeks on end, due to pollution? Oh wait, that already happened, last year...

[harflimon]

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[philipacentaur]

It's not new to me.

I know people need to be 'politically correct'.

Uh huh...

Would you vote for him if he played the saxophone on the Arsenio Hall show?

Would he still be a thinly-veiled racist? Yes -- yes he would be -- so, no.