Anatomy of a Highjacking Keyword Edition alpha_omega

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Postby chillin » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:45 am

orz wrote:Googles:

Nacho del Valle = no mention of nacho libre till the second page, and even then it's minor mentions ...


FWIW. I just did the same with no quotes and the 1st hit was a relevant Spanish page, the next 3 hits were from Narco News.

Anyhow, it's a weak contention that it's done to mess up web searches. One is just as likely to learn about the gov't and Buffy Saint Marie by accident when looking up the Van Damme movie Universal Soldier (hits 3-5 and google even suggests trying 'Universal Soldier Lyrics' ). I don't see that as effective information suppression.
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Postby orz » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:58 am

It's a weak contention that it's done at all; it being Hugh's own brand 'keyword hijacking.' Undoubtedly the CIA have had and still do have some level of influence in hollywood, but this fact doesn't mean that you can come up with any old nonsense and justify it with what boils down to "wouldn't put it past them..."
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Postby theeKultleeder » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:41 pm

His "playing emotional cards" for an "infantilized" population intrigues me. Some of the hijacking examples are, to put it nicely, a stretch, but I do think he's onto something.
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Re: Anatomy of a Highjacking Keyword Edition pt1

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:05 pm

Joe Hillshoist wrote:Despite what Wombat and Hugh think I reckon a porn based KH would have a great effect on the people that were exposed to it.


Because of the Humpasaur Jones act/website, I've been paying a lot more attention to the porno industry than I'd frankly want to. Nacho is a small-time generic product producer. Porno is so vastly over-saturated it makes as much sense to sponsor a rapper on myspace.

Yes, a porn-based KH would have a great effect on those who saw it, but there's not that big of an audience for anyone porn release unless it's from a major studio with a major star. "Not worth the time, not worth the money" -- especially compared to a Hollywood film.
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Postby professorpan » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:11 pm

Fer Christ's sake, how many times must one of Hugh's examples be disproven before it continues to rear its silly head?

From this ancient thread:

Hugh, do you or have you ever known anyone in the movie business? If you did, you'd realize how baseless your overwrought theorizing really is.

All it takes is a little bit of research to find interviews with the writers of the film. They talk about their fascination with lucha (Mexican wrestling) and how the story is based upon the true story of a priest who becomes a luchador to save an orphanage. You can read one of many articles about the film here:

www.nytimes.com/2006/05/2...ref=slogin

But of course, it's the New York Times, so the Mockingbirds must have gotten their hands on this one. It's tainted and can't be trusted. And the writers? Liars. Or they've been coerced by studio goons into making up a story about the origins of the film. It wasn't simply an idea to make a funny movie about lucha at all -- no sir. It was a remote viewed, massively orchestrated plot to keyword hijack the name "Nacho" to prevent 12-34 year-old dorks and doofuses from learning about Mexican dissidents -- in the future!

Because Nacho Libre was in the works long before May of 2006 -- when Nacho del Valle first entered the U.S. search engines as a result of a campesino rebellion.


That's just one example of many that have been factually discredited. Why does Hugh get a free pass to keep posting nonsense over and over again as if it's true? That's what baffles me.

He posts examples that are chronologically impossible, then can't defend them, but he keeps on posting them like the Energizer Bunny.
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Postby Trifecta » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:12 pm

Keyword Highjacking is a damage limitation psy op. Not a total scrub out of history.
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Postby professorpan » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:22 pm

Keyword Highjacking is a damage limitation psy op


It's a theory cooked up by HMW. It cannot be proved, can easily be disproved, and is entirely explained by confirmation bias and woolly, free-associative thinking.

There is no proof. None. Zero. Just speculation detached from the real operations of the media.

But worst of all, it's a distraction from very real propagandizing.
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Postby orz » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:59 pm

Yep. It's fantasy. It's a meaningless jargon phrase to describe an illogical and incorrect theory. It's conspiracy theory fanfiction of the worst kind.

Never mind saying "some of his ideas are a stretch but..." The fact that his ideas sometimes overlap with actual coherent worthwhile ideas is irrelevent. Those worthwhile ideas are not helped in any way by involving "keyword hijacking" nonsense.
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Postby IanEye » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:22 pm

Well, at the risk of annoying people I got a cool pic of Jayne Mansfield playing violin and some interesting info from Trifecta [that TED thing looks interesting].

In exchange I got called "ugly" for daring to presume that most Latin Americans [be they immigrants or otherwise] are smart enough to think for themselves, and not be taken in by a power structures cheap parlor tricks.

non-zero-sum? perhaps.

Such is life. Hi-Ho.

Perhaps the lesson I should take away from all of this is:

In order to win something, is it worth it to forfeit your humanity?

I think not Sir, I think not.

The old writer couldn't write anymore because he had reached the end of words, the end of what can be done with words.

And then?

"British we are, British we stay."

How long can one hang on in Gibraltar, with the tapestries where mustached riders with scimitars hunt tigers,
the ivory balls one inside the other, bare seams showing,
the long tearoom with mirrors on both sides and the tired fuchsia and rubber plants,
the shops selling English marmalade and Fortnum & Mason's tea.
Clinging to their Rock like the rock apes, clinging always to less and less.

In Tangier the Parade Bar is closed. Shadows are falling on the mountain.

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"Hurry up please. It's time."
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:02 pm

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Postby Horatio Hellpop » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:46 am

Was at this wine bar in ruam rudee last night and ordered nachos. What came back was half a pack of doritos and some sloppy guacamole in a gravy jug. And 250 baht no less??? Still the bed room upstairs looks pretty cool and we might hire it out for Simon Spears birthday in December. It was an ok night but I'm sick of going to sleep at 4am everyday makes work very hard and I think my sanity is suffering for it.
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Postby Horatio Hellpop » Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:48 am

Also ben cousins couldn't hold ned kelly's long johns or whatever they wore back there how dare he hijack the most laconic final words in aussie history
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:00 am

Horatio Hellpop wrote:Also ben cousins couldn't hold ned kelly's long johns or whatever they wore back there how dare he hijack the most laconic final words in aussie history


:D

What have you got against snakeskin boots.

I dunno if you watch real footy or not, :P but in his "comeback game" which was quite good the camera panned to him just before the first bounce. He had his finger over one nostril and did a huge snort. I used to snort stuff years ago, and you often do that about 20 minutes after a line to get the last of whatevers there through your sinus.
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Postby Horatio Hellpop » Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:05 am

mate i just had a pick me up 2 hours ago before coming into work

i wish some of my mates would get jobs
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