The World According to Monsanto

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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby backtoiam » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:22 pm

How Glyphosate mimics our basic amino acid, and gets into our cells, tissues, chromosome and DNA
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Dec 7, 2015 — As if Glyphosate, the main killer chemical in Monsanto's VisionMax and RoundUp herbicides were not bad enough already. Now we have further and far more damaging information coming from scientist Anthony Samsel of Deerfield, New Hampshire.

A renowned biochemist and research scientist that has been studying Glyphosate, and other potentially harmful chemicals for a long time, he has four peer reviewed scientific papers already published, along with Dr. Stephanie Seneff, on how Glyphosate provides a pathway to various modern diseases.

Now, Samsel has made a more fundamental finding on the chemical and is working on his fifth paper on it. And that finding, for the first time disclosed by anybody on earth, is that glyphosate is essentially an amino acid, but like no other naturally occurring one. And it tries to mimic one that is part of our biology.

Some 21 amino acids are the basic building blocks of life on this planet as we understand it. Glycine is one of them, the simplest and most basic, and it performs a long chain of invaluable tasks in the biology of the living kingdom.

Glyphosate mimics glycine. Our body may not distinguish between the two, perhaps because in our evolutionary history, our immune system never had to distinguish between glycine, which we absolutely need in every cell, every tissue, every chromosome and DNA strand, and glyphosate, which we absolutely do not need in our biology. It did not have to learn the distinction because glyphosate was not found naturally anywhere. For all practical purposes, it is an extra-terrestrial chemical, synthetically produced in the lab. And now, we have released it everywhere in nature, recklessly.

And so, like carrying a bunch of deadly soldiers in the belly of the Trojan Horse, glyphosate slips into our system essentially replacing glycine whenever and wherever it can, and creates an avalanche of unpredictable diseases, health hazards and defects of all kinds.

Pretending to be the amino acid Glycine, it can cross the blood-brain barrier and start interfering in our brain chemistry. It can mis-fold proteins and cause them to behave unnaturally and perform unintended tasks with potential negative effects for us.

It can and does get into our bone marrow and start producing T-cells and helper cells with this rogue chemical fitted in place of glycine. It can get into our DNA and RNA and be responsible for producing potentially dangerous transgenic mutants in our offsprings that will show negative effects even a few generations down the line.

And once it is into our biology, there is no effective way for our immune system, or for man, to get rid of it and replace it, molecule by molecule, with the original glycine.

This is what I gathered, and pondered, after speaking with Anthony Samsel, but you can hear him speak about it himself in the attached video. Being a scientist, he speaks with reserve and caution.

But even he ends up displaying emotion when he concludes his talk with the comment that production, distribution, an use of Glyphosate needs to be banned and all operation involving it should be shut down - lock, stock, and barrel.

Cheers and thanks.

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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby Alaya » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:34 pm

It's just a different kind of genocide.
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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby tapitsbo » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:10 pm

Why did some territories have the institutional momentum to resist this shit?
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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby Alaya » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:57 pm

Relative corruption levels, i would guess.
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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby backtoiam » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:01 pm

Alaya » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:57 pm wrote:Relative corruption levels, i would guess.



I would guess you are correct.
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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby tapitsbo » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:13 pm

India and the old pre-Maidan Ukraine regime were both corrupt, seriously... Yet Monsanto style tech has had to be pushed on both
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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby Sounder » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:40 am

http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/sande ... yiN7NjnMjz

During a town hall event here on Saturday night, a voter asked Sanders about Monsanto. Questions about agribusiness and genetically-modified food are not unusual at Sanders events, but on Saturday night the Vermont senator claimed his criticism of the industry and Monsanto’s objection caused CBS to cancel an interview:

Monsanto is a very, very powerful corporation. They are one of the leaders in food technology and basically working hard to transform our food system. Let me tell you a funny story, or not so funny. In my state, a great dairy state, we have a lot of dairy cows. There was an effort to put what was called BGH, bovine growth hormone, which is a stimulant that makes cows produce cows more milk but is unhealthy. I was against that.
I’ll never forget this. I was invited by CBS, not a small company, to appear on television to talk about why I was opposed to bovine growth hormone. CBS then called me up and said, ‘Well, Monsanto is threatening to sue us, so we can’t go on with it.’ They are very powerful.


From the comments:
Ron Morrissette •
Owner-Operator at Green Mountain Solar
Not many people outside of Vermont would know this , but Bernie worked hard for the Norhteast Dairy Compact that increased the price paid to New England dairy farmers and saved many from going broke, the Compact worked well untill the processors found a way to undermine it . I know because I was a dairy farmer and Bernie is the most honest politiicain there is, many Vermont farmers who are conservative republicans vote for Bernie because they know he fights for the little guy and you can trust him!!


People should know that our State Dept. top 'diplomats' are front line sales reps for Monsanto. It may even be a major component of the U.S. 'problems' with Russia.
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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby Elihu » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:34 am

It doesn't matter who one "votes" for. As can b seen, our trustees only shuffle a few cards in a larger deck. Voting in this system is to a base oneself. Feeling and intention therein are wasted.
But take heart, because I have overcome the world.” John 16:33
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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby tapitsbo » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:27 pm

Sad that network TV is still an important influence in this election...
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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby Sounder » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:41 pm

http://www.collective-evolution.com/201 ... nto-seeds/

U.S. Government To Pull Foreign Aid In El Salvador For Refusing Monsanto Seeds

Governments do not dictate major policy, major multinational corporations do. We’ve seen this time and time again, and one of the best examples out there is Monsanto. This time, the United States government wants to force GMO seeds on El Salvadorian farmers.......
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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby Sounder » Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:57 am

Elihu wrote...
It doesn't matter who one "votes" for. As can b seen, our trustees only shuffle a few cards in a larger deck. Voting in this system is to a base oneself. Feeling and intention therein are wasted.


Sigh, yes and while I may know that as well as you do, Bernie at least shows commitment to regular folk as being his constituency rather than in your face big money being the politicians main constituent. I prefer to not disrespect his supporters because he at least does not strike me as being a psychopath.
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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby Sounder » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:22 am

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2016/03/24/5 ... ink-about/

Phillip Schneider, Staff
Waking Times

Monsanto is quite possibly the world’s most hated company, but few know much of the history of this multi-national giant.

“When a company claims its product improves on nature, many consumers happily declare the product an example of scientific progress. Equally powerful, though, is the inclination toward skepticism.” – Jesse Hicks

This skepticism is the reason millions now understand the shady and insidious nature of corporations like Monsanto. In fact, in a 2013 poll Monsanto was declared the “most evil corporation” in the world, beating McDonald’s and even the Federal Reserve by a wide margin. However, not everybody knows just how far back this corruption truly goes.

Here are five things you may not have known about Monsanto, but should.

1. Monsanto’s First Product Was a Toxic Chemical Sweetener called Saccharin

When Monsanto was first created in 1901, its main purpose was to sell a chemical called saccharin to the Coca-Cola corporation as an artificial sweetener. Having known it to be a dangerous carcinogen, a government body called the Referee Board of Consulting Scientific Experts, created under president Roosevelt in 1910, sued Monsanto to stop the production of the new chemical sweetener. It decided that the levels of saccharin people were consuming were over they considered ‘safe’ limit, and in 1912 the use of saccharin was prohibited in processed foods. Monsanto’s industry lawyers fought back, and the ban was over-turned, marking the first of many legal incidents that would pave the way for Monsanto’s current multi-faceted chemical onslaught on humanity.

2. Monsanto Hid Evidence of Toxic PCB’s

Commonly used in lubricants, hydraulic fluids and liquid sealants, PCB’s have been linked to immune system, developmental, and reproductive disorders and are quite potent carcinogens. Although PCB’s were banned in 1979, they can still be found in nearly all animal and human blood and tissue samples around the globe, and because they are so persistent in the environment, they are considered to be “one of the most gravest chemical threats on the planet.” But the company’s own documents show that great lengths were undertaken to make sure the public was uninformed about the dangers of PCB’s, even going so far as to start, “urging scientists to change their conclusions to downplay the risks of PCB exposure.” Even the Navy in 1956 refused to use one of Monsanto’s products that contained PCB’s claiming that it was “just too toxic to use in a submarine.”

3. Monsanto Helped Develop the Atomic Bomb

In 1943, Monsanto began working on a subsidiary research and development sector of the Manhattan Project in Dayton, Ohio, called the Dayton Project. This project was primarily focused on the purification and production of plutonium, which was used to begin the chain reactions in atomic bombs, ultimately resulting in the widespread radioactive pollution of testing sites, and the deaths of an estimated 129,000 people at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Dayton Project ended up costing $3,666,507 ($44.5 million in today’s dollars), and the world is still engaged in a nuclear arms race.

4. Monsanto’s Agent Orange is Still Devastating Vietnam

During the Vietnam war, the United States sprayed over 72 million liters of toxic herbicides and defoliants on farmlands and forests, most of which was Monsanto’s agent orange with the chemical component Dioxin. Over a million Vietnamese were exposed to this poison as were more than 100,000 American and allied troops. Dr. James Clary, a scientist who worked to design the chemical spray tanks for use in Vietnam told Senator Tom Daschle in 1988:

“When we initiated the herbicide program in the 1960s, we were aware of the potential for damage due to dioxin contamination in the herbicide… However, because the material was to be used on the ‘enemy,’ none of us were overly concerned. We never considered a scenario in which our own personnel would become contaminated with the herbicide.”

As a result, children in Vietnam are still being born with life-altering birth defects, devastating the lives of Vietnamese families, and many American veterans have suffered terribly as a result of exposure.

5. Friends of Monsanto Faked Studies Claiming Aspartame to be Safe

G.D. Searle, LLC, a partner of Monsanto, produced over a hundred faked studies claiming aspartame, a neuro-toxic sweetener is safe for human consumption. Meanwhile, the FDA’s scientists concluded that aspartame causes tumors and large holes in the brains of rats, before eventually killing them. The FDA responded by holding a grand jury investigation into G.D. Searle for, “concealing material facts and making false statements.” During the investigation, G.D. Searle urged insider Donald Rumsfeld, who had served as Secretary of Defense under president Gerald Ford, to become CEO. A few months later, the federal prosecutor who had previously convinced the grand jury to investigate Searle, Samuel Skinner, was given, “an offer he couldn’t refuse,” and went to work for Searle’s law firm. The investigation was subsequently stopped.
Conclusion

Monsanto now controls the largest share of the global GMO seed market. In turn, the US gov’t spends hundreds of millions annually funding the aerial spraying of Monsanto’s flagship herbicide Roundup, causing massive devastation to the environment and our health. According to the Denver Post in 2013, $277 billion dollars in subsidies were given to agribusiness giants like Cargill and Monsanto. In 2015 alone, Monsanto’s total lobbying expenses were $4,330,000. That’s over 4 million dollars spent on bribing politicians to work in favor of Monsanto’s interests, down from over $9 million spent on lobbying in 2008. As it turns out, not much has really changed since the early days of this shady corporate entity.
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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby Karmamatterz » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:52 am

Yes, can't disagree about Bernie's comments about this entire topic and the industry. I know farmers who are financially trapped by the industry and their evil tactics. They hate Monsanto and other companies, especially seed companies. CBS almost certainly lied about being fearful of a lawsuit, nearly all media companies have serious libel insurance policies. Other items were at play, advertising dollars being most obvious.

One has to wonder what Hillary's supporters think of Goldman Sachs and other banks shilling out $250,000 per speaking visit? Do they simply shrug?

Whether a socialist or not, he still garners respect for voting against the Patriot Act.
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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby tapitsbo » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:26 pm

Hillary's supporters identify with her unaccountable power whether it trickles down to them or not.
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Re: The World According to Monsanto

Postby slimmouse » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:01 pm

Sounder » 26 Mar 2016 12:57 wrote:Elihu wrote...
It doesn't matter who one "votes" for. As can b seen, our trustees only shuffle a few cards in a larger deck. Voting in this system is to a base oneself. Feeling and intention therein are wasted.


Sigh, yes and while I may know that as well as you do, Bernie at least shows commitment to regular folk as being his constituency rather than in your face big money being the politicians main constituent. I prefer to not disrespect his supporters because he at least does not strike me as being a psychopath.



Ditto.

What I have heard Sanders say in public, courtesy of course of youtube and independent media as opposed to those media controlled by the Psycopaths, suggests that the psycopaths might have a real problem if this guy got a decent shot at it.
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