Rense is a Nazi scumbag

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Postby Eldritch » Tue May 20, 2008 10:38 pm

It's the hair, man. It's definitely the hair...

He looks like an anti-Semitic poodle. (With my sincere apologies to the K-9 Unit of the Beverly Hills Police Department.)
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Postby justdrew » Tue May 20, 2008 10:51 pm

well, let me get in on the 10 minute hate.... but seriously folks, rense is toxic waste and a true must to avoid. and yeah, if you ever want to discredit anything, just get it posted there. the state department even listed them as a disinfo site.
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Postby Moya » Wed May 21, 2008 12:29 am

I gave him the benefit of the doubt for a long time until he posted an article about how amazingly awesome the V2 rocket was. If you want more damning proof of his antisemitism, listen to his first Benjamin Fulford interview where the normally calm Rense becomes apoplectic when Ben says the Jews aren't behind the Illuminati.

He's a Bircher with a manperm who is consumed with paranoia and draws others into his terrified delusion. Pity him.
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Postby professorpan » Wed May 21, 2008 1:15 am

I'm not a fan of groupthink, by any means, but damn . . . I love the fact that this is truly (despite all our disagreements on particulars) an anti-fascist, anti-racist, anti-Nazi board.

Reheated Nazi pamphlets from a guy who looks like Ron Perlman's subterranean "Beast" -- the great RI equalizer!

Okay, group hug is over -- time to start squabbling again :-)
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Postby 8bitagent » Wed May 21, 2008 2:09 am

UFO's and virtulent Anti-Semitism...

I don't get the connection. Maybe it's the hair.
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Postby justdrew » Wed May 21, 2008 2:18 am

and just what is he hiding under that hair? horns? antenna? BOTH! SHAVE HIM! SHAVE HIM! :P
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Postby Jeff » Wed May 21, 2008 2:20 am

8bitagent wrote:UFO's and virtulent Anti-Semitism...

I don't get the connection. Maybe it's the hair.


Actually there are some fascinating connections between UFO cults, contactee messages and the fascist/antisemitic far right. Vallee documents some in Messengers of Deception.
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Postby 8bitagent » Wed May 21, 2008 2:26 am

Jeff wrote:
8bitagent wrote:UFO's and virtulent Anti-Semitism...

I don't get the connection. Maybe it's the hair.


Actually there are some fascinating connections between UFO cults, contactee messages and the fascist/antisemitic far right. Vallee documents some in Messengers of Deception.


I think I remember reading your blog, mentioning "The Nine" being channelled, saying some pretty racist remarks.

Is there a blog where you talk about this fascist/racist/antisemetic connection to the UFO contactee thing?
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Postby timetunneler » Wed May 21, 2008 3:41 am

8bitagent wrote:
Jeff wrote:
8bitagent wrote:UFO's and virtulent Anti-Semitism...

I don't get the connection. Maybe it's the hair.


Actually there are some fascinating connections between UFO cults, contactee messages and the fascist/antisemitic far right. Vallee documents some in Messengers of Deception.


I think I remember reading your blog, mentioning "The Nine" being channelled, saying some pretty racist remarks.

Is there a blog where you talk about this fascist/racist/antisemetic connection to the UFO contactee thing?


The truthseeker sites, webfairy sites, rense.com have a weird habit of mixing UFOs and anti-semitism. Or Anti-Semitism and completely bs stories they pulled out of thin air... like the Voice of the Whitehouse garbage from a while back.

Although I get pissed at RI sometime, at least RigInt(Jeff) doesn't link to that junk. In fact the links on the main page are all good sites for the most part. So I give RI a pass when it comes to UFO talk. I say that even though I bag on this sit'es habit of pushing acceptance of Octopus Men having their way with humanity. :roll:

But the other sites I don't get. Most UFO talk is mixed with a bit of Nazi and Aryan Space Brother stuff... and in the early days (50s)this stuff came out of countries where Nazis had been, Switzerland, Germany Sweden, etc. and also out of the CIA of course. In fact the UFO phenomenon was essentially born with the CIA in 1947(Roswell and Kenneth Arnold's flight)Not sure what it means... it is cover for something else I would guess... something done by ex-Nazis? I imagine UFO stories were used as cover stories for something like technology theft, foreign spying, etc. And associating something with UFOs discredits the topic so people will not look further at what was going on.
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Postby compared2what? » Wed May 21, 2008 4:35 am

I've always assumed that the vast majority of the readership/audience that takes Rense seriously is by definition more than capable of going from having always been at war with Eastasia to having always been at war with Eurasia overnight, as long as a pro is pushing the buttons or a Pavlov is ringing the bell. And to me, that's what's truly terrifying, because unless that changes, no solution is final or, at least from the bell-ringer's perspective, even desirable: Anyone who knows how to ring that bell must also know that if you actually let any pack of salivating dogs loose for long enough to completely annihilate the Jews, after that it won't be long before having a pack of dogs that salivates at the prospect of completely annihilating Jews on your hands becomes more of a problem than the Jews were.

I guess the good news there is it means that from a non-fascist perspective, there is a final solution. You just have to figure out a way to stop the training of the dogs. Which would be a lot less difficult if non-fascists didn't require proof beyond a reasonable Rense to know a dog-trainer when they saw Alex Jones. Just for example.
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Postby Searcher08 » Wed May 21, 2008 5:46 am

One good way of getting rid of groupthink is to adopt a deliberate 180degree turn in thinking style - so to list all the positives about something you really hate/ dislike. In fact, the less you feel like doing it, the more important it can be.

Among the positives for me that came from Rense were
Highlighting chemtrails; Surfacing Big Pharmas fascist agenda; Exposing the Bush family tree, Supressed medicine; Giving a voice to 9-11 truth; Highlighting voter fraud and last but not least, videos of flying mexican humanoids(!)

Very many of the links that are discussed here have come via rense.

The interesting thing about rense is that I think he has got much more anti-Jewish over the years. It is really strange as there used to be quite a thriving online forum at rense - now (I looked last night) it is getting several posts... per week. I think he went to having some writers who could write well then went off the anti-Semite deep end like John Kaminski - jeez as long as he avoided anything Jewish, he was an interesting writer - anything with the word Jew in it, he turned into a racist douche - bizarre. Rense seems to have gone down that same bitter path... as my Jewish sister-in-law so aptly says, "In that world, *everything* is "Its da Joooz! It's da Joooz!!" ".
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Postby Avalon » Wed May 21, 2008 8:39 am

Rense has at least changed his hair color (though not the wacky cut) in his website image. It was pointed out in criticism of his Nazi interests several years ago that his golden hair picture was at odds with photos that showed him looking far more middle-aged and gray.

Rense UFO commentator Brian Vike was sent information about the Rense Nazi connections at one point, and basically told the writer who questioned his Rense affiliation to fuck off and never write to him again, that he liked being on Rense's show.
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Postby orz » Wed May 21, 2008 8:45 am

time for Image
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Wed May 21, 2008 8:54 am

Searcher said:

Among the positives for me that came from Rense were
Highlighting chemtrails; Surfacing Big Pharmas fascist agenda; Exposing the Bush family tree, Supressed medicine; Giving a voice to 9-11 truth; Highlighting voter fraud and last but not least, videos of flying mexican humanoids(!)


Well, except for the chemtrails and the flying Mexican humanoids...these are all discussed in many other, way more respectable web-sites, where Rense probably got them.

Question: is there any important story that Rense "broke" and was later taken up and corroborated by others? Anybody know?

IOW, does his site add value in any way?
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Postby Ziggin' and a Zaggin' » Wed May 21, 2008 10:07 am

I stumbled on rense.com most probably by way of a UFO-related link (perhaps it was a nazi-saucer/antarctic base story which is a hoax perpetrated by the despicable Ernst Zundel and his samisdat publishing outfit). The pervasive anti-semitic content on Rense's website was an instant turn-off and I've been avoiding it like the plague ever since.

I'm very disappointed with Brian Vike, of HBCC UFO Research, for not severing his relationship with Rense.
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