RFK hit (doesn't =) MidEast Terror

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Postby IanEye » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:50 pm

unaltered wrote:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Sirhan didn't shoot RFK. The CIA did.

No surprise that Operation Mockingbird is dialing the anniversary into the current slaughter of 'evil darkie Arabs.'

Even Amy Goodman today said that Siran shot RFK. Fucking ignorance.


No real bullets hit RK and Sirhan was a hologram.


unaltered, what's your point? are you being glib??
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Postby IanEye » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:54 pm

8bitagent wrote:
IanEye wrote:just to be clear, I am not endorsing this article.
But i thought RI people would be interested in the 'interpretation'.
I am especially curious to see what 8bit thinks of it.


I believe Sirhan Sirhan suffered a horrible head injury falling off a horse, ended up for some reason being a devoted adept of the order of the Rosicrucians, and then covert operatives(including a female CIA agent)
found him there began to guide and handle young Sirhan into high level manchurian mind control through that order.

I urge everyone to check out "RFK Must Die", a film that feels like an Oscar winning, no nonsense serious investigative documentary where almost literally every surviving person from that kitchen as well as the entire defense team, psychologists, CIA officers, etc are interviewed:
(heres the trailer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ5T7-Gr9ho

I think what happened was that a young CIA lady(the polka dot dress)
whispered a manchurian keyword into his ear as Bobby was intentionally led to the kitchen, setting Sirhan Sirhan into a killing trance.

Sirhan began firing away, but the final key shots came from a second gunmen standing near JFK.

I think it's as simple as that, and some of the same CIA wetworks people involved in the Ambassador Hotel were involved in the Dealey Plaza operation.

This whole "RFK was done by an Islamic terror agenda" is bullocks.
Sirhan Sirhan was found to have had a paper in his hotel, with mind control like insane scribblings that repeated "RFK Must Die" hundreds of times. To this day he cannot remember shooting RFK, and under hypnosis is brought back to the condition he was when(as I believe) his CIA handlers used MK Ultra/Artichoke on him.


Thanks 8bit.
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Postby streeb » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:01 pm

No real bullets hit RK and Sirhan was a hologram.


Should this be in green? And in the meantime, how is it supposed to help? Even the hardiest debunker will have a hard time toeing the official line on this assassination.

As for the article in the OP - disgusting.
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Postby StarmanSkye » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:03 am

Jack: Thanks for the Cryptome link to the Time-published History of the joint CIA/SAS overthrow of President Mossedeq -- which clearly was the first major postwar criminal act of violence between the US and the Middle East, as the US violated Iranian sovereignty -- displaying a profound contempt for the principles of representative democracy, rule of law and civilian oversight of its military and intelligence services. Part of a growing trend as the US was to interfere in foreign governments via coups, wars, invasions, by-proxy civil conflicts, economic sabotage, espionage, blackmail, threats and coercion, and targetted assassinations in dozens of nations throughout the cold war and beyond.

The OP article was VERY difficult to read without gritting my teeth at the outrageous distortions, outright fabrications and lies, esp. the so-called hindsight claim that Sirhan's alleged killing of RFK was the first strike of 'Islamic Terrorism'.

It's extremely unlikely that progressive, revolutionary change in the US, with a massive reorientation of national will and vision to the ideals of peace, rule of law, social justice, sustainable economic and environmental policies, won't happen until the truth of America's abuses of power and military force in plundering foreign nations are taught in our school, and freely acknowledged by our 'leaders', with the agencies responsible for the worst systematic abuses dismantled and those responsible for war crimes and starting unjust wars are brought to justice. The US's covert betrayal of Iranian democracy on behalf of western oil interests is an absolutely atrocious outrage that is at the core of America's bullying duplicity, hypocrisy, exploitation and violence in the region, now threatening to expand beyond the catastrophes of Iraq and Afghanistan. The global crisis of recession, which we are only in the beginning stages of, are directly tied to the Bush regime's criminal negligence in waging these opportunistic wars based on lies. It's a measure of how self-deluded and out-of-touch the American ruling elites are, that the complicit media won't even mention things most people know, such as the top-down orders of the King and Kennedy's assassination, or that Bush's wars have caused the speculative leap in oil prices that will cause a global recession.

Consider this -- there aren't ANY reports of closed gas stations anywhere in the world, or motorists stranded for lack of available fuel. There IS no oil shortage driving price increases -- it's ALL due to unregulated speculation as hot money seeks short term profits, in the absence of traditional stock market and real estate opportunities following the debt contraction and home mortgage collapse.

It's all just another scam -- tho undoubtedly peak oil IS on-track to hit in earnest in the next several years.
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Postby timetunneler » Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:10 am

It's a creepy article alright. Why would someone who is Jewish, in this political climate, want to even bring this up and start all of the alarm bells ringing in everyone's heads? RFK killing was first case of US mid east terrorism? WTF are they stepping in this pile of shit for?

It's like the three bears coming home to find someone's been messing in their shit and Goldlilocks bangs on the door, interjects herself into the crime scene and blurts out "The Palestinians did it."

WHYYYYYYYYYYY? I swear some people are either stupid as rocks or so sinister I can't even wrap my head around what they are up to.
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RIP RFK

Postby Skunkboy » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:35 am

When I was 11 the nuns took us to the local airport on a "field trip." We learned that we were to greet a famous person who was coming to town for a vacation with his wife. The fifty or so sixth and seventh graders were his welcoming committee to our fair town. That famous person turned out to be Bobby Kennedy. He and Ethel and a lone friend... (security man?) came around the corner and we all started cheering. He seemed a little embarrsssed by all the attention, but Ethel was beeming. He waved to all of us and started shaking hands as they headed to their car. I was toward the front of the pack so when he got close, I stuck out my hand. He was one of the first grown men I ever shook hands with. They got into their car and waved some more as they drove away. About a year latter I learned that he had been gunned down at the Ambassador Hotel in LA. My heart was broken because just like his brother, another good man was gone. If I was Obama, I would get more than just one securtiy guard so as to not tempt some "lone gunman", in a nation that loves it's myths both good and evil.

Here's another post from Welcome to Pottersville...

Thirteen Bullets


“Bobby,” my parents began on the morning of June 6th, 1968, “Senator Kennedy was shot last night and God may have to take his life.”

That was how the news was broken to me exactly 40 years ago tomorrow of Bobby Kennedy’s assassination. I was nine years-old and my parents solemnly gave me the news as I woke up for school the following morning because they knew that would impact on even a child my age. My father was 27, almost 28, still years away from the portly Republican who became an avid follower of Alabama and trying to fit in with Marietta, Georgia’s redneck society in a Bushian transmogrification.

In 1968, my Harlem-born Air Force father took every available opportunity to remind me of the greatness of the Kennedy family’s legacy. Though we lived in Tampa, Florida at the time and Bobby Kennedy was of course from Massachusetts, we were all native New Yorkers and we still thought of Bobby as our junior senator. It was my father that gave me my first political sensibilities, one that had, tragically, lain dormant in my soul for close to four decades before I finally woke up and realized that Chicken Little was right this time.

Into the mix many years later came Dan Moldea, the ultimate “investigative journalist” who nonetheless finds himself on the state’s side of a story every time, from Bobby Kennedy’s assassination to Deborah Jeanne Palfrey’s “suicide.” (His book, The Killing of Robert F. Kennedy, was effortlessly torn to shreds three years ago by John Hunt, as well as others.)

Darryl Gates, former Chief of the LAPD, is, like Moldea, someone who also finds himself in pivotal moments in American criminal history. He was in charge of the LAPD during the Rodney King beatings, the subsequent riots and then during the OJ Simpson crimes and trial. In every case, Gates justifiably took a beating but I mention him in this article because Gates was also the assistant chief of police at this time. He also oversaw the destruction of crucial evidence, such as doors and door jambs that had been shot during the assassination. Not only that, so were the X-rays taken of the bullet holes. When subsequently asked why he destroyed evidence, Gates casually shrugged his shoulders and said there was no point in hanging on to “dead lumber” that was taking up space.

A television forensic analysis of the reports strongly suggests if not outright proves that there were 13 shots fired in the pantry instead of the eight on which Moldea, the LAPD and the FBI insists to this day. If we’re to believe Moldea’s account that involves not one but four magic bullets, we’re still left with the troubling paradox of having at least two gunmen in his lone nut theory. With Moldea, the FBI, CIA and LAPD and their botched investigations, it’s obvious that a lot of powerful people have a lot at stake in forcing people to believe that Sirhan Sirhan and his eight shot revolver was alone responsible for killing Robert F. Kennedy.

And, if you can’t believe that, then just don’t discuss it, as Moldea told John Hunt in 2005.

Now, those of us who care to get to the truth of the matter know that it was a security guard by the name of Thane Eugene Caesar, a right wing zealot who had no love for the Kennedys yet was given the strangely exalted task of guarding the senator and presidential hopeful at exactly the same place where Kennedy would be shot behind the right ear in back of his head.

13 bullets. One for every one of the original colonies, including one for New York and one for Massachusetts.

Because whatever your pet theory, it was, as some have said, the day America died. Others say the same thing about the other Kennedy assassination and the Washington Posts’s E. J. Dionne said that the day Martin Luther King was shot 63 days before Kennedy was the day liberalism died. In the 60’s champions rose up challenging us to follow them to the Promised Land and without exception they were gunned down, men who weren’t merely lionized and martyred in death but men who in their very lifetimes roused people with hope that they could achieve the unthinkable, men who had the mystique being able to effect much-needed change with much of the nation behind them.

Men who had the audacity to hope.

At the risk of sounding like Hillary Clinton, this is a lesson in murderous intolerance that ought to be heeded by the Obama campaign especially on this anniversary.

http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot ... html#links

Anyway...

RIP Bobby


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Postby MinM » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:07 pm

Jeff wrote:Thanks for the links, MinM, and welcome to the board.

Thanks, Jeff.

I've been a reader of your blog for a few years now. Keep up the great work. Image
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Re: RIP RFK

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:23 pm

Skunkboy wrote:.....
http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot ... html#links

Anyway...

RIP Bobby


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Thanks for that post, Skunkboy. Very interesting and compelling.
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