!!! Buckingham Palace butler 'ran paedophile sex ring'

[Hammer of Los]

From that BBC interview with him from 2003, kindly linked to by cptmarginal;

He also defended Prince Charles against recent - so far unreported - allegations made by another former servant.

"I knew the prince very well and all I can say is these allegations our blatant lies.

"I think this is a 'get rich quick' scheme after Paul Burrell's revelations."

"I believe that there are poisonous elements trying to destroy the Royal family."

I'm stating the obvious, but clearly here he is referring to the George Smith allegations. Do you think he makes a good character reference for the Prince of Wales and Michael Fawcett?

[esotericmetal]

With things like these it seems it's more interesting as to why the news got out in the first place than the news itself.

SRA and all that other stuff aside, i imagine all this stuff is extremely lucrative for those fuckers.

[AhabsOtherLeg]

Sing a Song of Sixpence,

A pocket full of Rye,

Four and twenty

Naughty boys,

Bak'd in a Pie.



When the pie was opened,

The birds began to sing;

Was not that a dainty dish,

To set before the king?



The king was in his counting-house,

Counting out his money;

The queen was in the parlor,

Eating bread and honey.



The maid was in the garden,

Hanging out the clothes,

There came a little blackbird,

And snapped off her nose.


Baring-Gould, William S. and Cecil Baring-Gould, Eds. The Annotated Mother Goose: Nursery Rhymes Old and New. New York: Bramhall House, 1962, p. 26. No. 3


It's always the maid or the butler who gets it in the nose, eh?

Here, in modern Britain, is a relatively prosperous household (ha!) where a miserable racist matriarch, a partriarchal racist drunk, and a young racist who doesn't know any better and merely likes getting drunk (and dressing up as a Nazi) live together with an accused male-rapist who involves his sons in ancient blood rituals ("blooding" at the fox hunts) and who's main character witness at the non-independent inquiry into his alleged misdeeds has just turned out to be a predatory paedophile.

Despite the grammar, I'm talking about the Royal Family there. Not my house.

I await the intervention of social services with baited breath - I want them to be fair, unbiased, and thorough, as they are in some other cases - and I will die of baited breath before it happens.

Prince William's alright, though. He speaks a bit of Swahili, and is quite goodlooking, for a Royal.

I found this, but anyone interested would've found it already.

http://www.cityspeakersinternational.co ... l_kidd.php

It's only interesting because he's being touted as a speaker at City dinners. Why would the wry and humorous memories of an ex-butler (it sounds like a sort of "Last Of The Summer Wine" for die-hard twats) be of real interest (£2000-4000s worth, per night) to entrepreneurial high-fliers in our modern and classless meritocracy? There's surely no connection between big business, the City of London, and The Crown nowadays....

Parliament comes between them, doesn't it, as a check and a balance?

I should thank AntiAristo for opening my eyes.

[Jeff]

Former royal butler Paul Kidd jailed for 'monstrous' child sex offences

Russell Jenkins | December 24, 2008

A PEDOPHILE royal butler who once introduced a young victim to the Queen Mother at a Clarence House Christmas party has been sentenced to 12 years in jail.

Paul Kidd, 55, once made a living on the after-dinner circuit telling what he described as "hilarious" anecdotes about life below stairs at Buckingham Palace, gathered from his years in royal service during the 1970s.

But he was less forthcoming about his secret life as a serial abuser of teenagers he befriended and groomed.

Judge Mushtaq Khokhar described him as a dangerous man who posed a risk to every teenage boy he met before jailing him for 12 years at Minshull Street Crown Court, in Manchester, northern England. He said he would have to serve a minimum of six years.

Kidd had already pleaded guilty to nine offences of indecent assault, sexual activity with a boy, inciting a child to engage in sexual activity, making indecent photographs and possessing indecent images of children. The charges relate to abuse of three people dating back to 1975.

Kidd began work as a butler to the Queen in 1976 and remained at the Palace for six years before transferring to Clarence House, where he performed a similar role for the Queen Mother.

During his royal service, he boasted that he had looked after three US presidents and every monarch in Europe.

He also bragged he had been awarded the Most Noble Order of Merit by the West German president.

After he left Clarence House, he advertised himself as a royal expert ready to give lectures around the world about what made the Queen smile,"those damn corgies", the ghillies (dances) at Balmoral Castle and the "Queen Mother's whip".

His secret life as a predatory groomer of boys as young as 12 emerged last year after he gave a newspaper interview. It prompted one of his victims, now in his 40s, to come forward to complain that Kidd had abused him in the early 1980s when he was 13.

Prosecutor Nicola Gatto told the court that Kidd would befriend his victims' parents as part of the grooming process, and would indulge his victims with treats and trips.

In 1974, he took a 14-year-old on holiday to the Lake District before the abuse began. Later he took him to Clarence House, where he was introduced to the Queen Mother over tea.

Another victim, identified only as Victim A, was 14 in 1981 when Kidd invited him to his flat to discuss a shared interest in CB radios after befriending his parents. A third, more recent, victim, identified as Victim B, was 12 or 13 when he was invited by Kidd to look at his autograph collection of Manchester United players. The abuse began when he was 14.

Ms Gatto described how Kidd introduced the teenager to David Hobday, 57, who was also invited to abuse him. Their victim, a vulnerable lonely boy, said he believed he had a duty to please them.

Victims described how they believed their sexual innocence had been destroyed. One said he felt his whole life was a lie, another resorted to drug addiction because he felt violated and the third said he would carry feelings of shame and guilt for the rest of his life.

When police raided Kidd's home, they found CD discs containing more than 18,000 indecent images of children.

Another disc showed him engaging in sexual activity with a teenager. When asked about it in interview, he said: "I know which clip you are talking about and he is 17 years old. It was just messing about."

Judge Khokhar told Kidd he was a dangerous man who posed a risk to all the young people he might come across.

Hobday, who pleaded guilty to sexual activity with a child and possessing an indecent image, was jailed for three years.

Detective Constable James Teggart, of the Child Protection Unit, described the abuse as "monstrous".

"The pair are sexual predators who have manipulated their victims and subjected them to the most horrific abuse time and again," he said.

"The victims have had their childhoods taken away from them and will have to deal with what they have been put through for the rest of their lives.

"I would like to praise the courage of those who came forward and helped bring this evil pair to justice."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st ... 03,00.html

[cptmarginal]

link

A guard at Buckingham Palace accused of cheating his colleagues out of their life savings said his coworkers were running poker and porn rings while on duty at the Palace. The officer said the guards had an "easy life" and bought and sold porn and gambled.

"There was one officer and he did sell porn. He used to get it from Holland, bring it back and sell it to officers while on duty."

Page said members of the royal household instilled a class culture and royal protection officers were treated as a "necessary evil" who were expected to turn a blind eye to crime at the palace.

Page said: "You are not police officers any more.

"For example instances of domestic abuse in the royal household where the servants live and sleep in the palace."

He added that he believed money was "thrown at you" because the security level had to be kept up.

Page told the court: "I shouldn't be saying what I am saying but it has to be done - I need you to understand the culture."

Brought it from Holland and sold it? Why? Is there special porn in Amsterdam that's not readily available elsewhere?

"Being one of the first parliamentary democracies, the Netherlands was a modern country from its inception. Among other affiliations the country is a founding member of the European Union (EU), NATO, OECD, WTO, and has signed the Kyoto protocol. With Belgium and Luxembourg it forms the Benelux economic union. "

[cptmarginal]

Just saw this on ISGP.eu

link to article

In brief : "Beyond Dutroux" ties to the Netherlands

Nazi sects and aristocrats? Again?! You've got to be kidding me!

[...]

There were two brief reports in the Neufchateau document that mentioned locations in the Netherlands where at some point child abuse and the disposal of bodies had taken place. They are just tiny left-overs from Beyond Dutroux and its very basic research, but that does not take away that the material is still quite intriguing. There may be (Dutch) researchers out there interested in this stuff and they can use this material as a good place to start.

Remember that some of the main traits of child abuse in Belgium not only involved the national criminal milieu, but also aristocrats with considerable estates, politicians, wealthy businessmen, justice officials, police officers, Catholicist orders (Order of Malta and Opus Dei), and rabidly anti-communist intelligence officers, not to mention militant fascist and Nazi groups. For those who did not read Beyond Dutroux, yep, it's a crazy bunch - but you'll get used to it.


Summary 1: Catharina (PV 150.006, February 20, 1997)
Stated she was the daughter of a wealthy businessman who was involved in a sadistic and violent child abuse network spanning from Italy and Switzerland to Belgium and the Netherlands. Headquarters of the sect would be in Zurich. Among the child abuse locations in the Netherlands she mentioned "In Dordrecht in the house In de Spijkermandt" and that the "attic is organized for a Nazi sect". Some of the children's bodies would disappear "via a butcher shop in Rotterdam in the Van Hellemondstraat". Among the members would be notaries and army officers.

[see ISGP for more here]

Summary 2: Anonymous letter (December 13, 1996)
This person wrote about the existence of a sect in the Netherlands consisting of about 300 members, many with backgrounds as lawyers, jurists, judges and police officers. Members held meetings at rural estates where [ritual] child abuse took place. There was a specific focus at maintaining Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) in the children. Apparently, a whistleblower who tried to inform the police was disbelieved and soon thereafter disappeared. The letter specifically mentioned "villa Westflier in Markelo" as a place where abuse had taken place. There's no indication of the time frame in which these events took place.

What can we find?
"Villa Westvlier" clearly is a reference to the Westerflier estate near Markelo and Diepenheim, located in the east of the Netherlands. For Dutch standards, it's in a thinly-populated area. At least in past decades, the domain was about 1200 acres large. The villa on the domain is called the Nijenhuis. Since well before WWII, the estate has been in the possession of a very aristocratic family whose most prominent member today can be found at the High Council of [Dutch] Nobility and the Prince Bernhard Culture Fund. This person has also been an occasional representative of the Dutch royal family. Another family historically tied to the Nijenhuis has held a number of high positions in the Justice department.

More eerily, in 1948 this estate became a government-sponsored boarding school for young girls with emotional and/or behavioral problems. This lasted until the late 1960's. During this time the owner of the estate was a countess whose family had been one of the three founders of the notorious I.G. Farben chemical complex, a bastion of international fascism before and during WWII. The husband of the countess died in 1945. He had been on the advisory board of I.G. Farben.

FWIW

[cptmarginal]

Brought it from Holland and sold it? Why? Is there special porn in Amsterdam that's not readily available elsewhere?

wiki:

"The Netherlands is a primary country of destination for victims of human trafficking. The UNODC (UN Office on Drugs and Crime) produced a report which showed that Netherlands is one of the top destinations for victims of human trafficking; countries that are major sources of trafficked persons include Thailand, China, Nigeria, Albania, Bulgaria, Belarus, Moldova and Ukraine."

Netherlands - Facts on Trafficking and Prostitution

Policy and Law

The Dutch newspaper, NCR Handelsblad, printed the addresses of child pornography Internet sites found during the investigation of an international child pornography ring on the front page of its evening edition. ("Dutch see no easy control of child porn on Internet," Scotsman, 23 July 1998)

Official Response and Action

Despite efforts to investigate an international child pornography ring based in the Netherlands, there has still been no concerted united effort to banish child pornography. The Dutch justice ministry blamed foreign-based Internet servers for continuing to display child pornography on the web. ("Dutch see no easy control of child porn on Internet," Scotsman, 23 July 1998)

Although almost all of the 15 European Union member states seek stronger measures to combat pornography involving children, the Netherlands opposed Belgium's proposal to make it a criminal offense to possess such material for "personal ends". So the possession of pornographic videos of children will no longer be regarded in Europe as constitution sexual exploitation and will be exempt from all sanctions. (Marie-Victoire Louis, "Legalising Pimping, Dutch Style," Le Monde Diplomatique, 8 March 1997)

Cases

In July 1998, a vigilante anti-pedophile group exposed an international child pornography ring. The ring was found to be operating in the Netherlands, Germany, the United States, Israel and Russia. Around 9,000 images were found in the Zandvoort apartment of a formerly convicted pedophile, Gerrie Ulrich, who was murdered in Italy, possibly by his business partner and partner in the child pornography ring. The cruelty to the children in the pornography stunned many officials familiar with the sexual exploitation of children.

[edited for content by me]

(AFP, 16 July 1998)

A Netherlands Justice Ministry official was fired for allegedly downloading child pornography from a recently publicized Netherlands-based international child pornography network with ties to Germany, Italy and the United States. (William J. Kole, "This is Holland’s summer of shame," Associated Press, 29 July 1998)

Netherlands top distributors of animal porn

Apparently, The Netherlands is top dog when it come to distributing animal pornography, as it is one of the few countries left where this type of pornography is not forbidden. Filming animal pornography mostly takes place in Central Europe and Brazil, as the legislation there is also non-existent.

“The top two companies are located in The Netherlands,” according to the Director of Topscore in Doetinchem, one of the two companies in question. The other one is Cybermedia in Nieuwegein. “Of the 10 new films we release every month, the three animal films sell the best”. Many foreigners come specially to Amsterdam to buy animal porn and most animal porn websites are hosted here. The Minister of Justice Hirsch Ballin is considering banning animal porn in The Netherlands.

Why is this news? There was a recent Dutch article about a man raping another person’s pony 45 times (!) who could not be prosecuted because there’s no law against having sex with animals. They were thinking of getting him from breaking and entering.

Child pornography: fight it or hide it?

In the Netherlands, UPC is the only provider who has implemented a child porn filter. UPC subscribers who try to access a filtered site are presented with an ominous warning on their screen: STOP. Your browser tried to access a page that is being used to distribute files that depict the sexual abuse of children. This is illegal under article 240b of the Dutch Criminal Law.

UPC uses a blacklist that has been compiled by the National Police Forces (KLPD). All other providers have refused, arguing that the list has not been reviewed and that the criteria whereby a site gets blacklisted are unclear and not open to any kind of public scrutiny. There is no method to check whether nasty but legal sites are blacklisted as well, or to check that it is only child porn that is being filtered. Furthermore, filtering doesn’t solve the problem; blacklisting merely hides child porn sites, while the objective should be to shut them down and to arrest the people maintaining them. Only when there is a solid procedure to establish which sites should be blacklisted and there really is no other method of intervention - for instance, when such a site resides outside of Europe and the US - will they consider implementing a child porn filter.

Dutch Parliament called this stance ‘reprehensible’. Child pornography is the ultimate crime; thus, it merits strong measures. The KLPD is just as impatient with the ISPs as Parliament is. As their spokesman Kraszweski stated: ‘The ISPs have the power to do something against child porn sites, but they keep coming up with arguments why they shouldn’t. But we’re taking about child pornography, it’s almost a moral obligation to comply.’ (Webwereld, November 7, 2007).

ISPs in other European countries have implemented a child porn filter too. In Finland, for instance. And in Finland it’s also completely unclear what is being filtered. Matti Nikki tried to find out. He clicked his way through an endless series of sites and was thus able to compile a list of more than one thousand blocked sites, and published it.

His list contains 138 Dutch web sites. Uhm, Dutch sites? But isn’t the Netherlands part of Europe? Can’t - no, shouldn’t - Finland do more than just block them? Why don’t they report these sites to the proper Dutch authorities, so that they can take the appropriate measures, close them down and bring their owners and maintainers to court? Or does Finland perhaps maintain a much stricter definition of what establishes child pornography?

This weekend, I examined the first 40 Dutch sites on the Finnish blacklist. There was a lot of nasty stuff. Sometimes, their legal status was difficult to assess: Dutch law states that it is illegal to distribute pictures of children under eighteen engaged in sexual acts or posing in a sexual way; but age is not always easy to ascertain. However, I encountered numerous pictures of children aged ten or twelve in lurid poses, or fucking or sucking. Obviously child porn, obviously illegal, also under Dutch law. Almost all the sites involved are openly hosted at two Dutch providers, Leaseweb and Webazilla; companies that are easy to find and whom you can serve with a legal notice to shut down a site and to hand over information about the site’s owner.

Then, I checked the same sites via a UPC connection. Part of the sites that Finland labels as child porn sites are accessible via UPC, which means that they are not on the Dutch blacklist. `Evidently, the Fins and the Dutch authorities disagree spectacularly on what qualifies as child pornography, which, in turn, is another reason for ISPs to demand to know on the basis of which criteria the lists are compiled. If specialised police squads can’t figure out which sites should and which sites shouldn’t be blocked, how can a provider make a responsible choice?

Using UPC, I ran into ten blocked sites. One of them did no longer exist, one of them is hosted in the UK, four of them are in the US, and four are hosted in the Netherlands: two at Leaseweb, and two at Webazilla. And again, there was this quaint randomness: I could access plenty of sites that did not differ fundamentally from those that are being blocked. This child porn filter is a weird and unfathomable hodgepodge.

England, the US, and the Netherlands. Again: what was the reason to filter these sites? ‘These sites usually cannot be shut down by the police, because they are often hosted in countries that we have no legal liaisons with.’ (Webwereld, March 23, 2007) Since when are Haarlem and Utrecht located in Russia and out of Dutch jurisdiction?

Critics of child porn filters have said it before: the authorities should not focus on blocking such sites, but on shutting them down. Filtering them away is window dressing, mere show. Blacklisting them does not equal doing something about them, and it sure as hell doesn’t stop the abuse of children. It just prevents us from acknowledging it and from understanding that it is still happening.

The actual reality turns out to be even worse. The Dutch child porn filter contains Dutch child porn sites. To state it bluntly: the Dutch KLPD and the department of Justice are clamouring for a law that will oblige ISPs to make their own insufficiency invisible to the general audience.

I guess when you're in the draconian UK, it's just much easier to pay a visit to Amsterdam personally to get the goods - because obviously if these guys from Buckingham Palace were interested in buying porn physically brought to them, it probably wasn't easy stuff to get on the internet or otherwise.

If only they knew the stuff their bosses had! They could've cornered the butler and gotten freaky. But I guess that was reserved for a different social circle. (being somewhat facetious)

[cptmarginal]

Royal butler in gay porn scandal

Royal Watch News

May 5, 2009, 10:36 GMT

Britain's Queen Elizabeth's favourite butler has been caught watching gay porn while on duty.

Robert Wilson - Senior Under Butler to the Silver and Gilt Pantry - was found looking at the illicit images on his laptop shortly after laying out afternoon tea for the 83-year-old monarch and her husband Prince Philip at their Sandringham estate in east England.

The footman who found Wilson reported him to the Palace Steward and an official complaint was made.

A source said: "Wilson was one of the most respected butlers at Sandringham and had almost daily contact with Her Majesty.

"He features in the book ?At Home With The Queen' and was seen by TV viewers on the BBC series ?The Queen's Castle', a documentary about the goings on at Windsor Castle.

"He was one of her favourites and was due to get promoted even higher - then this happens."

Wilson was demoted and forced to take a pay cut, but was not fired for his indiscretion.

The source explained to Britain's The Sun newspaper: "Instead of sacking him on the spot they gave him the option of taking a huge demotion and pay cut.

"Before this happened he had a grace-and-favour apartment overlooking the gardens at Buckingham Palace. But he agreed to give that up and live in far more modest accommodation in the Royal mews at the rear of Buck House.

"Besides being stripped of his prestigious job title, he was demoted to dining room assistant serving meals to cleaning staff, kitchen porters and others. He has gone from one of the best jobs - and rooms - in the Palace to one of the worst."

A palace spokesperson refused to comment.

Russian illegal worker served tea to Queen

AN illegal worker from Russia landed a job as a Royal footman and served tea to the Queen, The Sun can reveal.

Igor Golovanov, 32, waited on Her Majesty and Prince Philip - and said: "I couldn't believe this was the monarch and her husband."

He was a member of the Buckingham Palace staff for nearly TWO YEARS even though he did not have a proper work permit, which technically made him an illegal immigrant.

His job as a footman and trainee butler took him to Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle, Balmoral and Sandringham.

Moscow-born Igor was given a flat inside the Palace, rode on gilded carriages and rubbed shoulders with heads of state and PM Gordon Brown.

He served Prince Charles and Prince Andrew - and got to know the other Royals.

But all the time, his work permit was invalid and he was therefore in violation of his UK visa.

Igor, the only Russian on the staff, said Buckingham Palace failed to check his credentials. And he came to believe he did not need proper papers because he was working for the Royals.

But when stunned Palace staff finally found out recently, he was sacked on the spot and warned to leave Britain.

Igor said: "Now I am likely to be forced out of the UK because of their negligence. They have broken the law by employing me and now they keep phoning to say I should leave the country as quickly as possible. I think I have been badly treated.

Under new laws, employers can be fined or even jailed for taking on illegal workers.

Igor said: "When I was interviewed for the job they did not make any copies of my documents and made no checks on my immigration status.

"They should have applied for a work permit for me. But they didn't, meaning that when I started work there I was breaching the terms of my UK visa.

"That meant I was effectively an illegal immigrant working for the Royal household - but no one even noticed."

He added: "I was the only Russian working at the Palace. For that reason alone I thought my employment would be examined very closely."

Igor came to Britain on a student visa in 2000 to do a masters degree in hospitality at Bournemouth University.

He landed his first job as a trainee at a hotel in the seaside town. Immigration officials granted him a temporary work permit on condition he ONLY worked for that employer.

But when the hotel owners announced it would soon close Igor looked for another job. He saw a Buckingham Palace ad for a trainee butler and sent off an application in January 2006.

He said: "I had two interviews and was told I had got the job but as a footman instead. They asked what my plans were and I told them I hoped to stay in the UK permanently.

"I showed them all my papers and explained I would need a new work permit to be employed at Buckingham Palace. But they made no copies and took no notes. I never heard anything about work permits again."

Igor added: "I had to wait nearly seven months for security checks. Then they wrote to me in September to say I had formally got the job." A letter from senior personnel assistant Deborah Simmonds told him he would get a pensionable salary of £13,825. But he would have nearly £3,000 deducted for "rent" as he would be living in the Palace.

[...]

"Then as I got more experienced I was given similar tasks but with the Royals themselves. I served meals, tea and coffee to the Queen and Prince Philip, and the Duke of York. They were incredibly polite to me even though I was so junior."

I'm sure I could find much more weird stuff