Obama's like Kennedy and that's the problem

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Postby chlamor » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:33 pm

Nordic wrote:Are we actually complaining that Obama is similar to JFK?

What's next, complaining that he's too much like FDR?

This is America, where the business of the country is business.

I mean, I agree with Chlamor a great deal and love reading him/her, but sometimes it seems a little silly to complain so bitterly about something so ... entrenched and institutionalized. Like, you know, The United States of America.


You'd be amazed, or not, how many people need to be reminded of what you say and how completely obstinate are many of the true believers of these various hagiographies. Hence...

BTW I never complain I simply point things out that are indeed very easy to investigate.

And of course FDR wasn't so hot either unless one desires the salvation of Big Capital.

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Postby zhivkov » Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:42 pm

You know chlamor-oddly enough I am starting to like you. believe it or not I actually agree with a lot of what you say. However one thing I guess we are just going to have to disagree on until the end of time is JFK.
I simply do not understand anyone who thinks America would not have been a much better place had JFK lived-maybe I am reading you wrong. I think you have a tendency to live or want to live in some idealized version of reality that never has existed and never will exist. I do have to admire your intelligence and stubborness.
I was so let down by the US-when I realized that 99 percent of what we are told is complete bullshit-this way before I believed in deep state crimes, that I tried to become a true believer in communism. I thought maybe there really was a workers paradise overseas. I still love to hear the Soviet National Anthem-quite beautiful really-O Party of Lenin and all that. I grew up over the years and realized that there never has been a utopia and never will be as long as human nature remains the same. JFK was murdered while trying to make the United States a better place and he was the last person we have had in that office with the courage and wisdom to see many things that were wrong here-to me he died a martyrs death and I really appreciated MinM's posts of his which I think had everything to do with your thread title, as it seemed to imply being like JFK is a problem. If you would like to see my thoughts on JFK's murder and the vicious slanders the Kennedy clan has had to endure over the years please go here darling http://myfavoritemonsters.blogspot.com/
you can even comment-however I will not post anything nasty about JFK-You can tell me my taste in music and poetry and blogs suck and also tell me that my attempts at writing suck-second or third page i think-I will post those until we meet again hugs-Z
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Postby Code Unknown » Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:39 pm

Nordic wrote:Are we actually complaining that Obama is similar to JFK?

What's next, complaining that he's too much like FDR?

This is America, where the business of the country is business.

I mean, I agree with Chlamor a great deal and love reading him/her, but sometimes it seems a little silly to complain so bitterly about something so ... entrenched and institutionalized. Like, you know, The United States of America.


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Postby vanlose kid » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:27 pm

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Postby vanlose kid » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:33 pm

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Postby SonOfKitty » Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:55 pm

Typical chalmor post regarding the Kennedys. It has always been a fetish of the know it all it do nothing we are "super right" left that the Kennedys were so flawed. For all their flaws, the Kennedy's were the only outside force offering real change, in their epoch that has ever existed in American politics. If JFK and RFK had not been killed, we would be living in a better world.Get over it chalmor.
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Postby Code Unknown » Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:29 am

vanlose kid wrote:JFK, RFK, MLK, were killed for reasons by known people, and not by lone gunmen.

Obama is nothing like them, but is built up as if he were, all three combined even. i've had the felling for a while, this is the first time i'm airing it, but he'll be the one to bring "peace" to palestine (rahm, clinton et. al. suggest that).

thing about Obama is, he's being run. unlike Kennedy, no rockefeller, but no pauper either, he didn't need more money. he was actually trying to do something.


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