12 dead in Fort Hood shooting spree

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Postby RocketMan » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:39 pm

http://rawstory.com/2009/11/name-tells-us-a-lot/

In an interview with US Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), Fox host Shepard Smith asked: "The names tells us a lot, does it not, senator?"


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Postby xsicbastardx » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:44 pm

The congressman from Ft Hood was just on MSNBC, said that the Army officer he talked to said he heard small and semi automatic weapons....

.....and the spinning begins......
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Postby ninakat » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:55 pm

12 killed, 31 wounded at Fort Hood army base

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Thursday, November 5th, 2009 -- 2:27 pm

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UPDATE III

Officials are confirming that 12 people have been killed and 31 wounded at the army base at Fort Hood, Texas.

Lt. Gen. Bob Cone told a press conference that all the deaths took place in the base's readiness facility, where soldiers are prepared for deployment. A civilian police officer was among the casualties.

Cone confirmed that one shooter was killed on the scene. That person's identity has not officially been released, but ABC News had identified him as Major Malik Nadal Hasan. [MAIN PAGE of RawStory.com currently has the same picture above with the caption: "FT. HOOD shooter an army psychiatrist."]

Authorities have two other suspects in custody, but have not said if they were involved in the incident.

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Postby American Dream » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:58 pm

Yes- the shooter was Army psychiatrist studying PTSD, upset by his pending deployment.

New York Times update

Update | 6:43 p.m. A cached version of a biographical entry for Nidal Hasan, the suspected gunman who was killed on Thursday at Fort Hood, on the Web site of the Center for the Study of Traumatic Stress where he worked before being deployed to Texas describes him as “Fellow, Disaster and Preventive Psychiatry, Department of Psychiatry, F. Edward Hebert School of Medicine, Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences.”

Update | 6:16 p.m. According to the Marine Corps Times, a Pentagon source said the suspected gunman killed at Fort Hood, Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, “was a psychiatrist recently reassigned from Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C., to work with soldiers at Darnall Army Medical Center on Fort Hood.”

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Postby ninakat » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:01 pm

Army shooting suspect was heading to Iraq
Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was licensed as a psychiatrist

NBC News and news services
updated 35 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Military officials say the suspected shooter at Fort Hood was a psychiatrist at Walter Reed Army Medical Center for six years before being transferred to the Texas base in July, where he was preparing to deploy to Iraq later this month.

The officials had access to Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan’s military record. They said he received a poor performance evaluation while at Walter Reed.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because military records are confidential.

The Virginia-born soldier was single with no children. He was 39 years old.

He was a graduate of Virginia Tech University, where he was a member of the ROTC and earned a bachelor’s degree in biochemistry in 1997. He received his medical degree from the military’s Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001. At Walter Reed, he did his internship, residency and a fellowship.

NBC News’ Pete Williams said Hasan had been promoted to major in May. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson, R-Texas, said military officials told her that the gunman was upset about his impending deployment.

NBC News' Robert Windrem said Hasan specialized in traumatic stress. It was not known whether he was treating people at the base.

Hasan was born in Virginia, where he graduated from Virginia Tech with a degree in biochemistry. He later attended U.S. military medical school, where he specialized in psychiatry.

The gunman was shot to death on the base after 12 people were killed and 30 wounded.

Officials says it was not clear what Hasan's religion was, but investigators are trying to determine if Hasan was his birth name or if he may have changed his name and converted to the Islamic faith at some point.

Hutchison's office told NBC News that he had been overheard making negative comments about his impending deployment.

The shootings on the Texas military base stirred memories of other recent mass shootings in the United States, including 13 dead at a New York immigrant center in March, 10 killed during a gunman's rampage across Alabama in March and 32 killed in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history at Virginia Tech in 2007.
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Postby n0x23 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:11 pm

The shooter was another Lone Gunman. :shock:
The other two suspects were questioned and have been released.

Cousin of the shooter claims that Hasan didn't even like going to the shooting range and that he was a complete pacifist.

Born into a Muslim family, but claimed no specific religious affiliations or practice.
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Postby Percival » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:11 pm

Retired colonel who worked with the shooter attended a conference with him 6 months ago. he heard him publicly stated that muslims should rise up against the usa. commented within earshot of news folks that usa was the aggressor in the middle east and that we should get out. was told by this colonel to "zip it" because military should not disparage commander in chief. this retired colonel observed the shooter getting more and more agitated over the last 6 months and he is very upset that this major was transferred from walter reed to fort hood if there was knowledge of mental issues and/or anti-government views. there were apparently many altercations with other soldiers concerning religion and politics.


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Postby SonicG » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:15 pm

I don't mean to make light of this but this jumped out:
He was a graduate of Virginia Tech University,

Is it something in the water there?

Seriously though, this is tragic on so many levels especially since this man was supposed to be helping soldiers deal with PTSD. WTF, really, did it rub off on him? And also tragic if he is a Muslim and this is used as an excuse for further TSOG lockdown....
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Postby Percival » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:20 pm

SonicG wrote:I don't mean to make light of this but this jumped out:
He was a graduate of Virginia Tech University,

Is it something in the water there?

Seriously though, this is tragic on so many levels especially since this man was supposed to be helping soldiers deal with PTSD. WTF, really, did it rub off on him? And also tragic if he is a Muslim and this is used as an excuse for further TSOG lockdown....


The whole thing is ugly and I would imagine this guy took a lot of abuse from fellow soldiers who didnt have a favorable view of muslims, not to say what he did was right but we may have a case of the bullied striking back again as we have seen so many times before, but this time its not a high school kid but a 39 year old army shrink pushed to the brink by god knows what.

I feel bad for muslims, another stain on their religion unfortunately.
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Postby n0x23 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:27 pm

Retired colonel who worked with the shooter attended a conference with him 6 months ago. he heard him publicly stated that muslims should rise up against the usa. commented within earshot of news folks that usa was the aggressor in the middle east and that we should get out. was told by this colonel to "zip it" because military should not disparage commander in chief. this retired colonel observed the shooter getting more and more agitated over the last 6 months and he is very upset that this major was transferred from walter reed to fort hood if there was knowledge of mental issues and/or anti-government views. there were apparently many altercations with other soldiers concerning religion and politics.


This sounds like really, really desperate and pathetic damage control. :roll:

He was a graduate of Virginia Tech University,

Is it something in the water there?


Yea, I thought that too.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:29 pm

Percival wrote:I feel bad for muslims, another stain on their religion unfortunately.


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Postby Percival » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:30 pm

n0x23 wrote:
Retired colonel who worked with the shooter attended a conference with him 6 months ago. he heard him publicly stated that muslims should rise up against the usa. commented within earshot of news folks that usa was the aggressor in the middle east and that we should get out. was told by this colonel to "zip it" because military should not disparage commander in chief. this retired colonel observed the shooter getting more and more agitated over the last 6 months and he is very upset that this major was transferred from walter reed to fort hood if there was knowledge of mental issues and/or anti-government views. there were apparently many altercations with other soldiers concerning religion and politics.


This sounds like really, really desperate and pathetic damage control. :roll:

He was a graduate of Virginia Tech University,

Is it something in the water there?


Yea, I thought that too.


Agreed. Sounds like a made up back story. I couldnt believe it when I read it.
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Postby lightningBugout » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:31 pm

Percival wrote:I feel bad for muslims, another stain on their religion unfortunately.


Not at all. No more than Columbine was a stain on the goth subculture or Virginia Tech was a stain on Korean-Americans. Or Paris Hilton is a stain on the offspring of hotel magnates.

Unless of course you want to also argue that his aid for soldiers suffering from PTSD forced on them by the war machine was a positive reflection on his religion, also.

Otherwise what you're proffering is pure and unadulterated Islam exceptionalism. He had an Arabic name. Seems perfectly likely he will end up being a practicing Muslim, but we don't even know that yet.
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Postby Sweejak » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:44 pm

Fox video interview with Ret. Col. Terry Lee.

http://tinyurl.com/yhya4c7
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Postby lightningBugout » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:52 pm

Sweejak wrote:Fox video interview with Ret. Col. Terry Lee.

http://tinyurl.com/yhya4c7


This is the most unbelievable pile of dogshit I think I have ever heard.
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