Does God Have A Future?

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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby surfaceskimmer » Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:53 pm

Oh, boy... Is this one of this deep, erudite, esoteric, philosophical, grounded in Cartesian word thought discussions? If so, I'll withdraw and leave the floor to others.

Does God exist and have a future? I have no doubt. I was born, loved, raised ... I have been blessed. I have kissed the sky. I have read the transcendentalists, the Bible, the Tao Te Ching, some of the Vedas, a little Sufism, several treatises on Buddhism, a dozen or two of other books, one about the Nassenes and the hidden secrets of the Last Supper, and the Gospel According to Thomas. Does God exist? I have met Her, made love to Her in several embodiments (one of which offered up an out-of-body experience), encountered Him as stone growing in the cliff, or a sentient being of another species in the wilderness. I have touched the human spirit, kissed the sjy and the earth, saved a life or two, had people die in my arms, and been saved (medically, viscerally) by angels dressed in white holding stethoscopes or, in one case, ice chips and orange juice in the ICU. She was up to 5'10".

Does God have a future? Yes, if we are willing to encounter our selves and others in our inquiry, then we keep Him and Her alive.
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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby surfaceskimmer » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:08 pm

US geneticist wins $1.5 million religion prize

[It's an AP report available through Google news, or check in here: Templeton Foundation: http://www.templeton.org ]
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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby beeline » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:20 pm

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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby beeline » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:21 pm

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Not to pee on anyone's parade or anything, but there is no God. There is, however, a future for God, so long as people are willing to be sucked into a variety of cults that, combined, call themselves 'religion.'

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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby norton ash » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:24 pm

Beeline, I'm telling you for the last time. At least the boys in XTC put a little EFFORT into it, which I always appreciate.

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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby surfaceskimmer » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:58 pm

beeline wrote:.

Not to pee on anyone's parade or anything, but there is no God. There is, however, a future for God, so long as people are willing to be sucked into a variety of cults that, combined, call themselves 'religion.'



To some degree, I concur... certainly organized religion and the lesser cults all seemed to have some problem interpreting spirituality and getting themselves in reams of trouble (or reaming their acolytes). It's widespread... And I don't advocate joining or going near anything except that which you can evolve or manifest from within your own experience. Michael Murphy's book "God and the Evolving Universe: The Next Step in Personal Evolution" contains a 66-page guide to the literature of transformative practice and a 28-page series of simple suggested practices

Yes, indeed, it is studied and alleged -- both ways -- that when God shoes up in whatever form one thinks he was in at that moment, it was an aberrant event that can be explained by some aspect of neuroscience, entheogenesis, or DNA-chakric-hormonal cellular resonance or enchantment. But that is real, and it's embodied. See also Mark Gaffney's "Gnostic Secrets of the Nassenes: The Initiatory Teachings of the Last Supper" (he's the fellow who has also written about the third temple at Dimona in the Negev desert, and the mysterious white place seen over D.C. on 9/11).

Currently on my reading table are three texts or anthologies on somatic psychology, an old treatise on binaurally-driven brain wave states (which also leads to the research done on Buddhist monks in gamma wave meditation), Ellen Langer's new book "Counterclockwise" (which carries the additional thought that Sufis engaged in prayerful dance known as whirling dervishes do indeed move in a counter-clockwise motion), three books on Jung and the archetypes of self and the collective unconscious, and an older book edited then by a fellow lately in the news on the subject of parapsychology (mediums, reincarnation, trans-species communication and out-of-body experiences), philosophy and spirituality. He's a retired theologian and is now pursuing other issues at the moment. His name is David Ray Griffin.

I'll try to report back after I'm done reading. Perhaps DARPA and the NSA can also perfect the ability for me to e-mail or "log on" from "the other side": http://cryptogon.com/?p=14505
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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby Simulist » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:07 pm

beeline wrote:Not to pee on anyone's parade or anything, but there is no God.


I'm glad someone finally said that. I don't agree with it at all, but I think it's as valid an opinion as mine or anyone else's.
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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby beeline » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:06 am

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Until someone can prove, without a doubt, the existence of a God, (which no one heretofore yet has), I will maintain my atheism.

If you want to have faith in some unseen, unknowable, yet omniscient and omnipresent force in the universe, go right ahead.

Just don't pray or point to the sky after scoring a goddamn touchdown. That really fucking irritates me. God doesn't give a crap that you made it over some imaginary line. Jesus H. Christ.

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Beeline, I'm telling you for the last time. At least the boys in XTC put a little EFFORT into it, which I always appreciate.


To my knowledge, this is the first time you've mentioned 'my lack of effort.'

What's wrong with a little concision in our writings? Not everyone writes like C2W?.

I do thank you, however, for noticing. I am a proud C- student. Always have been, always will be. Why bother trying any harder when (a) you get your point across and (b) practically no one is going to listen anyway. Keeps me sane.

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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby yathrib » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:44 am

The fact that people can ask whether or not God has a future pretty much answers itself, doncha think?
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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby norton ash » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:50 am

Just a joke, beeline, along the lines of "Nietschze, you're dead. -- Sincerely, God." Or that if God is mocked, he/she probably quite enjoys it from the likes of XTC.

I prefer to write short entries as well.
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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby §ê¢rꆧ » Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:06 am

surfaceskimmer wrote:I have met Her, made love to Her in several embodiments (one of which offered up an out-of-body experience), encountered Him as stone growing in the cliff, or a sentient being of another species in the wilderness. I have touched the human spirit, kissed the sjy and the earth, saved a life or two, had people die in my arms, and been saved (medically, viscerally) by angels dressed in white holding stethoscopes or, in one case, ice chips and orange juice in the ICU. She was up to 5'10".

Does God have a future? Yes, if we are willing to encounter our selves and others in our inquiry, then we keep Him and Her alive.


I think this is the best answer in the thread.

Atheism is for the unimaginative.
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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby beeline » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:27 pm

norton ash wrote:Just a joke, beeline, along the lines of "Nietschze, you're dead. -- Sincerely, God." Or that if God is mocked, he/she probably quite enjoys it from the likes of XTC.

I prefer to write short entries as well.



Oh OK sorry! I must be sensitive today.
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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby 23 » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:50 pm

§ê¢rꆧ wrote:Atheism is for the unimaginative.


“If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion.” - Edmond de Goncourt
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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby Laodicean » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:53 pm

Yes.

I'll meet Me (and You) There.

We're Creating It, Now.
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Re: Does God Have A Future?

Postby 23 » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:56 pm

Laodicean wrote:Yes.

I'll meet Me (and You) There.

We're Creating It, Now.


A point of clarification, Laodicean.

What is the "It" that we are creating now?

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