Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:40 pm

Simulist wrote:
seemslikeadream wrote:
Simulist wrote:
It is a little strange to watch you take such umbrage to my comment about the history of U.S. intelligence working in the "fringe community" though.



This is all about being labeled an anti-semite here again, nothing to do with "fringe community" Jesus get off your paranoid kick. I am pissed at this anti-semitc bullshit nothing more nothing less. Sorry if you got caught in the crossfire

I didn't realize that you had ever been labeled an antisemite, SLAD. And I can understand your sensitivity to anything even sounding like you might be getting that treatment again.

Honestly, I had no idea where the hostility was coming from that I thought I was perceiving, and that's why I responded with that terse remark.

Thank you for explaining. I don't think any such thing of you — at all. And I sincerely appreciate the understanding you've given me.

Please excuse my remark then also.


Sorry also, it seemed you and Seamus were accusing, thanks for responding and clarifying things. Yea I am a bit sensitive and flew off, my apologies, again
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby chump » Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:51 am

I thought I was missing something.

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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby chiggerbit » Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:35 pm

Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents


Heh, trust McCain to go after the immigrants while Goldman Sachs did pretty much the same thing, only with mortgages instead of cars.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby elfismiles » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:48 am

Just stumbled across this article from 2006...


Insurance Crime Bureau Lists Top 10 Cities for Staged Accident Scams
March 10, 2006


In a worst-case scenario of greed-driven criminal activity, Waurd Demolaire, 25, of Brooklyn, New York, was convicted Feb. 16 by a Queens County jury of killing a 71-year-old grandmother in 2003.

Demolaire intentionally struck a vehicle driven by Alice Ross. The contact caused Ross to lose control and strike a tree dying at the scene from her injuries. This intentional "accident" was to form the basis for submitting a series of fraudulent claims to insurance companies in a practice that is sweeping the nation.

The National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB) is today releasing its list of the top 10 cities with the most staged accident activity in the nation. This information is derived solely from an analysis of pending NICB investigative files*.

While only 10 cities are identified, staged accidents and related insurance fraud schemes occur in every state in the nation. The 10 cities ranked from most to least activity are:

1. Miami
2. Los Angeles
3. Houston
4. Chicago
5. Philadelphia
6. Tampa
7. Cleveland
8. Orlando
9. New York
10. Boston

Staged or "caused" accidents are but one of the numerous kinds of fraud committed daily around the country and they contribute to the $30 billion lost annually to fraud�a loss that is ultimately recovered through increased premiums.

Robert Bryant, president and chief executive officer of NICB, said today, "All of us need to be aware of staged accident scams because all of us are potential targets. NICB has investigators and analysts working around the country with their law enforcement and insurance industry counterparts to detect, prevent, and prosecute these people before they make you their next mark."

Scams of this type include the following:

�Panic stop is the most basic of the caused accidents. The suspect positions his vehicle in front of the victim's vehicle and slams on the brakes causing a rear-end collision. The victim driver has no warning that the accident is about to occur.

�Drive down occurs when you try to merge into traffic or pull out of a parking space. The suspect driver waves you to proceed, then intentionally smashes into you. The suspect driver denies waving you on.

�Hit and run occurs when a suspect driver uses a damaged vehicle, drives it to a public location and claims to be the victim of a hit and run. The police are often called to verify damage.

�Sideswipe occurs in a dual left turn lane of a busy intersection. The victim driver in the inside lane drifts into the outer lane and is intentionally hit by the suspect driver in the outer lane.

�Swoop and squat occurs when the vehicle you are following is suddenly passed by another vehicle which "swoops" in front of it. This causes the vehicle in front of you to stop abruptly, or "squat". As a result, you are unable to avoid colliding with the rear end of the squat vehicle. The swoop car races away, never to be seen again. The driver of the squat car submits vehicle damage and personal injury claims to your insurance company.

Be alert to these crimes and follow NICB's tips should you ever be involved in an accident that you sense is suspicious.

�Maintain sufficient distance from the vehicle in front of you to allow ample braking time if it stops suddenly (a favorite tactic of staged accident criminals).

�Avoid tailgating.

�Keep a disposable camera in your glove box and photograph vehicle damage and all passengers and witnesses at the scene.

�Call the police to the scene of an accident for a report

The NICB is a non-profit organization dedicated exclusively to preventing, detecting and defeating insurance fraud and vehicle theft through information analysis, investigations, training, and public awareness.

Anyone with information concerning auto theft and insurance fraud can report it anonymously by calling toll-free 1-800-TEL-NICB (1-800-835-6422) or by visiting www.nicb.org.

*Methodology�this report is derived from a review of all active NICB investigative files which identified staged or caused accidents as the primary fraudulent activity. However, the total number of NICB fraud investigations involving staged or caused accidents as a related activity is much greater as many cases are routinely categorized as medical fraud or other fraud investigations. # # #

Source: National Insurance Crime Bureau

Read more: http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/na ... z0ptbT872q

http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/na ... /66346.htm




elfismiles wrote:That's just what I was thinking of Nordic:

http://www.google.com/search?q=insuranc ... +accidents
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=in ... +immigrant

There are so many scams like this.


Plot: Vernon, Florida (1981)

For his second documentary feature, Errol Morris originally set out to chronicle Vernon, FL, because it had the highest rate of a particular sort of insurance fraud -- dismemberment performed for profit -- than any other place in the country. Nothing of that original idea survives in the film itself. Instead, Morris seems perfectly content letting the camera roll in front of the other eccentrics he found there, using his trademark approach of simply letting his subjects do the talking themselves. Many of them exhibit unusually close relationships to animals, including a turtle keeper, a worm farmer, and most memorably, an extremely enthusiastic turkey hunter. Other highlights include a sermon offering a close reading on the significance of the word "therefore" and a couple with a jar of sand from White Sands, NM, that they insist, thanks to radiation, has begun to multiply. ~ Keith Phipps, All Movie Guide

http://www.ovguide.com/movies_tv/vernon_florida.htm



Some folk think the infamous Austin Yogurt Shop Murders were a case like this:

THE YOGURT SHOP MURDERS
by Mack White
http://www.mackwhite.com/Yogurt1.html
http://www.mackwhite.com/Yogurt2.html
http://www.mackwhite.com/yogurt3.html

And I've read that Robert McNamara was involved in variations of this type of fraud in mining operations overseas. Basicly the mining company over-insures a particular vehicle or person for catastrophic death and dismemberment and then they stage an "accident" and collect bookoo bucks.

And there is that theory applied to 911 as well...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=91 ... +hawkscafe

Nordic wrote:Actually this WAS happening a few years back in Los Angeles. Poor immigrants were involved with very many deliberate accidents on the freeways here, promised a percentage of the resulting insurance claim and lawsuit. These immigrants were being "hired" (so to speak) by these crooks, who would send them onto the freeways, with the instructions to pull in front of a big rig, that was sure to have some big corporate logo on it (thus presumably guaranteeing full insurance and deep pockets) then were slamming on their brakes and causing wrecks.

No kidding.

It ended when a couple of them were killed and a full investigation revealed what was going on.

This was quite some time ago, but in McCain's mind I'm sure it seems like yesterday. :)
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:12 am

Mexico opens California office to provide ID for illegals
By: SARA A. CARTER
National Security Correspondent
June 3, 2010


The Mexican government is opening a satellite consular office on Catalina Island -- a small resort off the California coast with a history of drug smuggling and human trafficking -- to provide the island's illegal Mexican immigrants with identification cards, The Washington Examiner has learned.

The Mexican consular office in Los Angeles issued a flier, a copy of which was obtained by The Examiner, listing the Catalina Island Country Club as the location of its satellite office. It invites Mexicans to visit the office to obtain the identification, called matricular cards, by appointment.

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a Republican whose district includes Catalina Island, said handing out matricular cards will exacerbate an already dangerous situation.

"Handing out matricular cards to Mexicans who are not in this country legally is wrong no matter where it's done," he said. "But on Catalina it will do more damage. It's a small island but there's evidence it's being used as a portal for illegals to access mainland California."

Rohrabacher added, "If there were a large number of Americans illegally in Mexico and the U.S. consulate was making it easier for them to stay, Mexico would never permit it."

Mexican officials with the consular office in Los Angeles could not be reached immediately for comment. The matricular consular identification card, is issued by the Mexican government to Mexican nationals residing outside the country, regardless of immigration status. The purpose is to provide identification for opening bank accounts and obtaining other services. But the cards are usually used to skirt U.S. immigration laws, since Mexicans in the country legally have documents proving that status, Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials said.

In 2004 testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee, FBI officials called the card an unreliable form of identification. The agency said that Mexico lacks a centralized database for them, which could lead to forgery, duplication, and other forms of abuse.

Officers with the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said their agency was asked by Mexican officials not to enforce U.S. immigration laws on the island while the cards were being issued.

"It amazes me every time that the Mexican government has the gall to tell us what to do," said an ICE official, who asked not to be named. "More surprisingly is how many times we stand by and let them. This is just an example of one of hundreds of requests we've had to deal with."

In April, Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies seized a boat carrying large quantities of marijuana and detained three Mexican nationals who said they were being smuggled into the United States.

The island has a sizable Mexican migrant population. Most are undocumented low-income workers.

1:15pm UPDATE:

Mexican government officials have moved their satellite consular office from the Catalina Island Country Club to a Catholic Church – citing protection under the Geneva Convention.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby Nordic » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:12 pm

seemslikeadream wrote:
Mexico opens California office to provide ID for illegals
By: SARA A. CARTER
National Security Correspondent
June 3, 2010


The Mexican government is opening a satellite consular office on Catalina Island -- a small resort off the California coast with a history of drug smuggling and human trafficking -- to provide the island's illegal Mexican immigrants with identification cards, The Washington Examiner has learned.

The Mexican consular office in Los Angeles issued a flier, a copy of which was obtained by The Examiner, listing the Catalina Island Country Club as the location of its satellite office. It invites Mexicans to visit the office to obtain the identification, called matricular cards, by appointment.

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a Republican whose district includes Catalina Island, said handing out matricular cards will exacerbate an already dangerous situation.

"Handing out matricular cards to Mexicans who are not in this country legally is wrong no matter where it's done," he said. "But on Catalina it will do more damage. It's a small island but there's evidence it's being used as a portal for illegals to access mainland California."

Rohrabacher added, "If there were a large number of Americans illegally in Mexico and the U.S. consulate was making it easier for them to stay, Mexico would never permit it."

Mexican officials with the consular office in Los Angeles could not be reached immediately for comment. The matricular consular identification card, is issued by the Mexican government to Mexican nationals residing outside the country, regardless of immigration status. The purpose is to provide identification for opening bank accounts and obtaining other services. But the cards are usually used to skirt U.S. immigration laws, since Mexicans in the country legally have documents proving that status, Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials said.

In 2004 testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee, FBI officials called the card an unreliable form of identification. The agency said that Mexico lacks a centralized database for them, which could lead to forgery, duplication, and other forms of abuse.

Officers with the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said their agency was asked by Mexican officials not to enforce U.S. immigration laws on the island while the cards were being issued.

"It amazes me every time that the Mexican government has the gall to tell us what to do," said an ICE official, who asked not to be named. "More surprisingly is how many times we stand by and let them. This is just an example of one of hundreds of requests we've had to deal with."

In April, Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies seized a boat carrying large quantities of marijuana and detained three Mexican nationals who said they were being smuggled into the United States.

The island has a sizable Mexican migrant population. Most are undocumented low-income workers.

1:15pm UPDATE:

Mexican government officials have moved their satellite consular office from the Catalina Island Country Club to a Catholic Church – citing protection under the Geneva Convention.



Sorry, this sounds like complete bullshit. Catalina Island is tiny tiny tiny. There are very few illegals on Catalina Island, this is just stupid.

Washington Examiner? National Security Correspondent? Uh ... no.
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