No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby barracuda » Tue May 25, 2010 11:20 pm

82_28 wrote:...I can guarantee you, guarantee, that Chomsky was not consorting with any kind of terrorists.


I hate to say it, but I can poke around on the forum and find statements by just about everyone writing here that would effectively guarantee them the status of "enemy of the state" given the proper context and the proper state. This place is a haven for sympathisers, thank ford.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue May 25, 2010 11:49 pm

17breezes wrote:
JackRiddler wrote:
17breezes wrote:Chomsky recently cozied up with Nasrallah and the Hezbollah gang at their jihad camp and museum.

Evidently he loves them terrorists. Remind you of your buddy, Pol Pot, Noah?


I see pretend time is over and you're finally letting your inner Kahane out. What's next - "There are no Palestinians"?


Don't be a horse's arse, Jack. Nice to see you can wallow with the best. So what's next for you? "We are all Hezbollah now!" Is that the game you wanna play? :roll:


Hezbollah formed cos a bunch of Lebanese were pissed off that the Israeli's invaded their country, it formed to resist that invasion and morphed into a semi political organisation representing Shi'a Lebs when no one else would.

As a result Shi'a Lebs trust it when they don't really trust anyone else.

But you're right, waste 'em for Lebensraum.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby Simulist » Tue May 25, 2010 11:50 pm

Chomsky consorting with "terrorists"?!?

That's a laugh... He doesn't even like the Israeli government.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby 82_28 » Tue May 25, 2010 11:52 pm

But they were good points.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby 17breezes » Wed May 26, 2010 8:15 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:
17breezes wrote:
JackRiddler wrote:
17breezes wrote:Chomsky recently cozied up with Nasrallah and the Hezbollah gang at their jihad camp and museum.

Evidently he loves them terrorists. Remind you of your buddy, Pol Pot, Noah?


I see pretend time is over and you're finally letting your inner Kahane out. What's next - "There are no Palestinians"?


Don't be a horse's arse, Jack. Nice to see you can wallow with the best. So what's next for you? "We are all Hezbollah now!" Is that the game you wanna play? :roll:


Hezbollah formed cos a bunch of Lebanese were pissed off that the Israeli's invaded their country, it formed to resist that invasion and morphed into a semi political organisation representing Shi'a Lebs when no one else would.

As a result Shi'a Lebs trust it when they don't really trust anyone else.

But you're right, waste 'em for Lebensraum.



Remember the heroes welcome and party they gave the baby killer Samir Kuntar? Gee what a great bunch of guys, right Joe?

Nice little Nazi analogy there Joe. What fucking class.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed May 26, 2010 8:36 am

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Wed May 26, 2010 8:45 am

17breezes wrote:Nice little Nazi analogy there Joe. What fucking class.


Just playing by the game rules.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Wed May 26, 2010 8:59 am

While we are at it tho, Israel has been in the grip of nasty right wing bastards for years. The religious right in Israel is infringing on the rights of secular Israelis as well as Palestinians via that unjustifiable settler bullshit.

They have blown the fuck out of Southern Lebanon for years and when Lebanese have the temerity to organise a resistance to an invasion you call them terrorists.

If you want to be that loose with your terms don't whinge when others do it.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby Nordic » Wed May 26, 2010 12:01 pm

Joe Hillshoist wrote:They have blown the fuck out of Southern Lebanon for years and when Lebanese have the temerity to organise a resistance to an invasion you call them terrorists.




Yeah, how dare they get angry that attack helicopters are firing into their apartment buildings. The gall!

If only they had 17Breezes deep understanding of the situation, they would welcome such slaughter and happily sacrifice themselves for it. They'd volunteer!
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby JackRiddler » Wed May 26, 2010 6:12 pm

Joe Hillshoist wrote:While we are at it tho, Israel has been in the grip of nasty right wing bastards for years. The religious right in Israel is infringing on the rights of secular Israelis as well as Palestinians via that unjustifiable settler bullshit.

They have blown the fuck out of Southern Lebanon for years and when Lebanese have the temerity to organise a resistance to an invasion you call them terrorists.

If you want to be that loose with your terms don't whinge when others do it.


True enough, but they have blown the fuck out of Southern and Northern Lebanon, and everything in between, for going on 30 years. On and off.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby Nordic » Wed May 26, 2010 6:16 pm

And, apparently, lower Manhattan:

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/a ... n-1031859/

ALAN HART: BREAKS SILENCE ABOUT 9/11 ON THE KEVIN BARRETT SHOW
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ALAN HART: BREAKS SILENCE ABOUT 9/11 ON THE KEVIN BARRETT SHOW
- 27. May, 2010 in Commentary/Analysis, Israel, News/Politics -
1 Senior BBC Mideast Correspondent: “Here’s what may have REALLY happened on 9/11″!


Breaking his self-imposed rule against talking about 9/11, former Senior BBC Mideast Correspondent and author Alan Hart described what he thinks may have really happened on that fateful day on yesterday’s Kevin Barrett show.

Hart, who got to know Yasser Arafat and Golda Meir while serving as a Security Council-briefed Mideast peace negotiator, said that he has been assured by a top-level demolitions/engineering expert who wishes to remain anonymous that the three World Trade Center skyscrapers were destroyed by controlled demolitions, not plane crashes and fires. (For the names of more than 1000 experts willing to go on the record with the same opinion, see http://www.ae911truth.org).

During the hour-long interview, Hart discussed Israel’s record of engaging in outrageous attacks on friend and foe alike, and spreading even more outrageous lies to cover them up. (Around the midpoint of the show he explained the real reason Israel attacked the U.S.S. Liberty in 1967.)

Regarding 9/11, Hart suggested that while there may have been some original terrorist plot conceived by fellow-travelers of Osama Bin Laden, the Israeli Mossad, with its near-total penetration of Middle Eastern governments and terrorist groups alike, would have quickly detected and hijacked the operation to its own ends, orchestrating a spectacularly successful attack on America designed to be blamed on its Arab and Muslim enemies. Hart added that the Mossad operation that became 9/11 would have been aided and abetted by certain corrupt American leaders.

Sounding a chilling note, Hart added that the U.S. is in grave danger of an Israeli-instigated false-flag nuclear attack, perhaps using an American nuclear weapon stolen from Minot Air Force Base during the “loose nukes” rogue operation of August, 2007. The motive would be to trigger a U.S. war with Iran, and perhaps to finish the ethnic cleansing of Palestine under cover of war–which Hart is convinced the Zionists are planning to do as soon as the opportunity presents itself.

When a warning this serious is delivered by a messenger with the stature of Alan Hart, the American people had better find a way around the news blackout imposed by the Zionist-dominated corporate and pseudo-alternative media. The only thing standing in the way of an Israeli false-flag nuclear attack on America, a disastrous US war on Iran, and a horrendous acceleration of the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, is the awareness of the American people. Please copy, post, and mass-email this story.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Wed May 26, 2010 9:03 pm

JackRiddler wrote:
Joe Hillshoist wrote:While we are at it tho, Israel has been in the grip of nasty right wing bastards for years. The religious right in Israel is infringing on the rights of secular Israelis as well as Palestinians via that unjustifiable settler bullshit.

They have blown the fuck out of Southern Lebanon for years and when Lebanese have the temerity to organise a resistance to an invasion you call them terrorists.

If you want to be that loose with your terms don't whinge when others do it.


True enough, but they have blown the fuck out of Southern and Northern Lebanon, and everything in between, for going on 30 years. On and off.


Yeah I know .... but its specifically their actions in the South that really started all this, going back to the invasions across the border in the 70s.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu May 27, 2010 2:58 am

you know who wrote:Remember the heroes welcome and party they gave the baby killer Samir Kuntar? Gee what a great bunch of guys, right Joe?

Nice little Nazi analogy there Joe. What fucking class.



BTW To be clear I don't support what Samnir Kuntar did. Little shit that he was(is even). But he was not an adult, he was a child when he was caught.

But there are adults all round the world, (and in Israel), who have done as bad or worse who will get state funerals and all the shit so get over it. If you are gonna judge one group by their actions judge everyone equivalently.

Here's more class:

In light of the willingness of suicide bombers to die in the process of killing Israelis, the traditional methods of deterrence and retaliation seem insufficient. To succeed, Israel must turn the Palestinian leadership and people against the use of terrorism and the terrorists themselves. One way to do this is to make terrorists directly bear the responsibility for losses inflicted on the Palestinian cause as a direct result of their terrorism.

Following the end of the moratorium, Israel would institute the following new policy if Palestinian terrorism were to resume. It will announce precisely what it will do in response to the next act of terrorism. For example, it could announce the first act of terrorism following the moratorium will result in the destruction of a small village which has been used as a base for terrorist operations. The residents would be given 24 hours to leave, and then troops will come in and bulldoze all of the buildings.

Over time, the Palestinian residents of these villages will place the blame where it should be placed: directly on the Palestinian terrorists who engaged in terrorism against Israel with full knowledge the consequence would be the destruction of their homes. Those villagers whose homes were coming up on the list would have an incentive to pressure the terrorists to desist.


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I'll leave people to make their own analogies.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu May 27, 2010 6:34 am

On the beach, during an exchange of fire with security forces, Kuntar shot Danny in the back at close range and murdered Einat as well. Two of his fellow terror cell members were killed; Kuntar and Abras survived and were put on trial.

Immediately following his capture, when his remand was extended, Kuntar confessed that he had bludgeoned Einat to death with the butt of his rifle. Later, however, when testifying in court, Kuntar denied the charges. "I reached Nahariya beach at 2:30 in the morning," he testified on January 6, 1980. "We tied our boat to a rock. We had instructions to avoid opening fire, to take hostages and bring them to Lebanon. I was commander of the cell. I planned to knock on the door at one of the houses. Majeed and I walked towards the building. I told him to ring the bell but not to speak, because I planned to speak English with the people living there. When we went in, Majeed buzzed one of the apartments, and Majeed spoke to the woman in Arabic and she answered him in Hebrew. He made a mistake and she didn't open the door.

"I then heard the sound of a car driving up and stopping... I opened fire, then we went up to one of the apartments, where we pulled out a man and a girl so we could take them with us. I decided we should take the girl with us to ensure we'd stay alive, and then return her from Lebanon to Israel via the Red Cross.

"While we were with them, shots were fired at us... I shot some rounds at those people with my Kalashnikov rifle and hit one of them; he went down. When I saw the boat had been hit... we tried to retreat by land and escape the gunfire coming our way... Tthe army began an assault on us... I wanted to find a way to tell them to stop shooting at us, because our whole objective was to take hostages to Lebanon. But I didn't have a megaphone... I was hit by five bullets. Then [Danny] Haran got to his feet and signaled to the army forces with his hand to stop them from firing. He was hit by the bullets being shot at him by the soldiers. The five bullets that hit me struck sensitive places, so I lost a lot of blood and passed out. I didn't know what else was happening with me until I woke up in the morning and found myself in the military's hands. I didn't hurt the girl at all and I didn't see how she met her death."



Israeli foreign ministry site, apparantly..

They publish his denial, not his alleged confession, and the rest of the evidence that condemmned him. Its sposed to be available tho.


So unless he has changed his story ... (and he may have I don't know.)


Any thoughts on Dershowitz' comments yet 17b?


Nasty piece of work thats for sure.
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Re: No credible explanation except a vicious anti-Semitic plot.

Postby Searcher08 » Thu May 27, 2010 7:29 am

17breezes wrote:Chomsky recently cozied up with Nasrallah and the Hezbollah gang at their jihad camp and museum.

Evidently he loves them terrorists. Remind you of your buddy, Pol Pot, Noah?


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