End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

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Re: End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

Postby Ben D » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:06 am

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:
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Harry detonates the bomb exactly at the deadline, causing the asteroid to split in two and miss the Earth by 400 miles, at the cost of his own life. The remaining crews of Freedom and Independence return to Earth as heroes.
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Neat,..so with the end of Harry, freedom and independence prevails!!!

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2. Make a pillaging or destructive raid on (a place) as in wartimes

Sorry now back to topic... :)
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Re: End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

Postby Montag » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:09 am

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Yes. The PTB know quite a lot. Especially how scientific fascism works.

There are several propaganda functions at work in apocalyptic-dystopian psyops movies:


I'm not sure if this was in your three points there. Maybe having people consider that they could be living under a Mad Max type scenario makes them appreciate their American soft fascism... Of course, most of them have been lead to believe they have freedom. But perhaps for the ones who have taken the red pill -- at least somewhat.
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Re: End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

Postby Nordic » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:18 am

Maybe having people consider that they could be living under a Mad Max type scenario makes them appreciate their American soft fascism.


Well, I think that's the purpose of a lot of disinfo. The whole "well gosh at least it's not ____________"

Hell, there are probably 50 million Democrats in this country who think Obama is just A-OK because he's not Palin.

And we saw a lot of disinfo about the oil-copolypse, too. If there's not a mega-methane explosion resulting in a mega-tsunami wiping out the entire state of Florida, well gosh maybe it's not really that bad! Whew!

And that's what the whole "war on terror" thing is about, right? "Well, we may have turned into a fascist state, but would you rather have 9/11's happening every damn day!?"
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Re: End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:31 am

There are several propaganda functions at work in apocalyptic-dystopian psyops movies:

1) "Creating sophistication" is a propaganda science term that means introducing a previously unknown subject for the brain to begin to process. This is commonly done with entertainment fiction and disinfo W.O.O. to take advantage of amusement and disbelief as distancing shock-absorbers. "Hasn't got too much rat innit."
This gradual introduction to information prevents horror, outrage, and, ultimately, focused awareness leading to activism.

2) Conditioning the public to see the world in survivalist terms perpetuates a fascist status quo. This is how military-intelligence operates and wants the public to accept the harsh culture of brutal atrocity that is the norm in militarism by taking on the same values.
So any narrative that justifies police-state and military actions, even in fiction, acclimates the public to the real hot dirty wars behind the CIA-media veils.
One of the simplest and most effective psyops strategies is mere exposure to take advantage of the brain's tendency to accept 'what is' as an unchangeable given with resignation that morphs into rationalization and, finally, justification.
Oddly enough, this is called The Mere Exposure Effect in propaganda science.

3) Desensitization. Fascism, militarism, capitalism, and now global warming all cause tremendous mass suffering. The Vietnam-era generation was not exposed to this in CIA-media as children so when they saw what real war looked like the cognitive dissonance was intense. Many were motivated to rebel, organize, and mutiny. So the CIA-media cranked up the brutality and gore in entertainment to desensitize youth and sanitized the 'news reporting' to reduce that trouble-making cognitive dissonance. This strategy mostly worked and will be continued to support both a permanent economic war and global warming effects.


Good post, Hugh. I lean much more toward this line of thought than that some "elite" soul eater knows through occult powers what is going to happen.

They just know what they are going to do - continue raping and pillaging the planet and its people and sucking out as much as they can get to sustain their 'infinite growth.'

I suspect these movies and shows function most on the level of desensitization to horrible scenarios and building trust in authority. The TV show Jericho, for example, although it appears at first glance to have some anti-authoritarian messages, actually reinforces the existing structure.

They want people to be mentally prepared for the shit to come down, and to accept it as normal and expected, because they know that's where it is leading.

In the chaos that comes from collapse is an opportunity - power vacuum, if you will. The intent is to pacify enough people so that no movement can use the moment to build a useful resistance.

On edit: Just re-read the thread. 82-28, good observations as well.
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Re: End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

Postby brainpanhandler » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:20 am

wr wrote:Humans REALLY like to fantasize about burning it all down.


Ain't that a fact, but generally speaking that's only the humans that haven't actually lived through seeing everything burned down around them.

wr wrote:Is it really anything new?


Maybe not. The morbid desire to witness the grand finale is not new, but it has only been a relatively short span of time when we have been truly capable as a species of bringing about a collapse of civilization in something other than a slow motion fashion. I think a lot of numbskulls have a video game attitude about it, as if we can always hit the reset button or alternatively, as in Armageddon, they believe that there will be some last second technological solution to our problems that will avert the worst of the disaster.

Without doing a lot of research I don't feel like doing right now I'll wager that there are a greater number of apocalyptic depictions of mass disaster and end of the world scenarios recently (last ten years or so) than there were in any previous period during the 20th century. Yes, it's popular and sells tickets/gains market share, but that is a dialectic and not a one way street. I think we, and not just the ptb, know or sense that western civilization cannot continue on as it has, but that it will nonetheless and that therefore there will be a reckoning and it will be ugly. Deer/headlights. Even the dumbest of the dumb know this in some fashion.
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Re: End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

Postby swindled69 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:02 am

Clouldn't be just as simple as it is a reflection of what we(society) feel and know in our collective mass consciousness, that someday within our lifetime we will see an extinction level event?

I mean if we look back there has been at times mass die offs, the Dinosaur's, Plaque's that have hit humanity and in relative short history there has only been really a few, like the Tsunami in 2006.

To think that because we are so technologically advanced or whatever rationalizing bullshit you can come up with is not going to escape the fact that we are standing on the edge of a knife waiting to get cut and that thinking is very naive.

Do enough homework and the signs of numerous "Apocalypse's" lie all around us in Human History you just have to get outside of a text book and Main Stream Ideologies to see them.

The bottom line is, yes, we as a Species will face a ELE sometime in the near future, whether it is Man Made or something organic like Asteroid's, Comet's or IMPO, the coming Solar Maximum in the the build up to 2012.

As hard as they try to convince us otherwise, we are not very safe at all, from our governments to our well being on this Earth. The balance in which we thrive as a species is very delicate and everything they feed to us desensitizes us to this fact to maintain the status quo but you already know that.....

Something is coming....our movies, books, discussions and forgotten Histories are all speculation for our collective selves to prepare.
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Re: End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

Postby slomo » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:56 am

swindled69 wrote:Clouldn't be just as simple as it is a reflection of what we(society) feel and know in our collective mass consciousness, that someday within our lifetime we will see an extinction level event?
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Something is coming....our movies, books, discussions and forgotten Histories are all speculation for our collective selves to prepare.

It's quite possible we've already seen it.

I don't want to become hysterically unhinged, but I worry that the damage done in the Gulf may have profound ecological effects on a global scale. The chemical composition of our atmosphere is regulated by our oceans, and marine microorganisms form the basis of the food chain. While this single event may or may not be large enough to throw us completely out of ecological equilibrium, it goes without saying that we cannot withstand many more such events. Given that the inertial forces of our civilization compel us to continue seeking out petroleum reserves in places where they are ever more difficult to extract, and given that our civilization lacks any incentive to take basic precautions in these operations, we are practically guaranteed to see more of these events.
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Re: End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:00 am

^^I know I've already seen it, I've been dreaming about Teh End for as long as I remember my dreams. My first journal has an entry about it on the first page. I am not even remotely unique in this, not even among my friends. I think it's a fairly common vision in my generation.
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Re: End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

Postby vince » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:08 am

A better ending for "Book Of Eli":
Denzel goes to the library and says "I got a copy of the King James Bible", and they say, "King James? Ugh... come back with a better version.... then, we'll talk!"
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Re: End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

Postby Jeff » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:17 am

FWIW, I think if acronymns can be confused with sandwiches or 70's rock bands, they're not helping to explain anything.
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Postby IanEye » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:42 am

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Re: End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:14 am

From the 2009 film about 9/11, occult numerology, aliens, men in black, etc,
"Knowing" predicts BP Gulf oil explosion
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Re: End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

Postby Nordic » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:19 pm

I think most of us may be missing the obvious here. How many of us have seen animations of the world flooding due to global warming? How many have been that little snippet from Al Gore's movie showing the coasts being inundated with water? How many people are aware that climate change can wreak havoc upon everything around us in ways that are completely out of our control and are completely unpredictable?

To me that's the obvious one -- people have been terrified by this, feel completely powerless, and don't even know where to go to avoid it.

I know that's true for me, so it's gotta be true for a hell of a lot of other people.

Thus the people looking desperately to deny this.

And thus the nightmares, cultural and otherwise.

It really does feel like the world is coming to an end. Hell, just read the Pentagon's report on global warming, that will make you just want to buy a gun and kill yourself, get it over with.

Then we've got a perpetual war without end, an economic collapse, and a whole host of other issues, and now the oil disaster --

It's kind of amazing there aren't more people like this guy:

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Re: End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

Postby semper occultus » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:30 pm

Ok it's not a movie..but Ianeye started with the book covers !

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Re: End of the World Movies: Does the PTB Know Something?

Postby Simulist » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:42 pm

Things are bad, but the bad is also hyped — and there's a purpose behind all the hyping.

Profit is certainly one motivation, but the energy drain the average person confronts due to all the hyped-up bad news is also another.

People are easier to manage when they are made to believe that any resistance they might mount would be useless anyway.
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