THE MEN WHO KILLED PRESIDENT KENNEDY

[streeb]

LBJ arrived and was photographed at the Hotel Texas in Fort Worth at 11:50 on the night of November 21. How did he get to the Murchison party in Dallas? When did he arrive? How and when did he get back to Fort Worth, unnoticed?

[chump]

Streeb: Of course, none of us know the answer to that question. "It's a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma..." Just off the top of my head (sorry), Ms. Brown did say that LBJ arrived to the party late. I don't know how late, but maybe late enough to have gotten to the party after being photographed 35 miles away? Would it be too far fetched to suggest that a double could have been photographed in Ft. Worth?

I'm still trying to get through that "Ultimate Secret..." article posted by Elvis. It is purporting that Tippet's body was substituted for Kenndys. That's the first I've heard of that (I think!) I'll have to let that one soak in for awhile.

[fruhmenschen]

Okay, I gotta say this ... even though I am one to mix paranormal and parapolitical stuff all the time:

WTF?!? What's up with this?

I actually believe in the "Akashic Records" but from a more Jungian perspective but the idea of having this sort of topic pollute a COPA conference, which from my limited experience has always been factually based and rational, this seems like a smear against COPA - suggesting that Mr. Tatro will be speaking at the conference about the Akashic record (though I gather he is actually a JFK researcher - maybe of some repute).

He's NOT listed as a presenter:

http://politicalassassinations.com/2010 ... announced/

Yet he does appear in pics of the event with John Judge:

http://politicalassassinations.com/2009 ... /ed-tatro/

http://politicalassassinations.wordpres ... /ed-tatro/

Apparently he has appeared in the doc "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" as a "JFK Assassination Expert", though the site where I find that ref sounds like they are skeptical of him as well:

"Next we have Ed Tatro who I believe must be an expert in document mutation. In The Guilty Men he managed to convert an August 9, 1984 letter from Billie Sol Estes attorney, Douglas Caddy, to Stephen Trott of the U.S. Department of Justice into a "Justice Department document."

So naïve is Mr. Tatro he feels convicted con-man Estes, who was involved in millions of dollars in loans made on nonexistent fertilizer tanks, ". . . is telling the truth and there is every reason to believe he is . . ." Tatro never reveals just why he feels the almost life long plea bargaining Estes would not attempt to deceive. "

Another COPA ref here:

"Ed Tatro, long-time researcher on the JFK assassination, featured in Nigel Turner's documentary The Men Who Killed Kennedy"
http://copavideos.blogspot.com/2009/03/ ... -copa.html

So fruhmenschen, why are you posting his attendance everywhere:

http://forum.goupstate.com/viewtopic.ph ... 74&start=0
http://forums.signonsandiego.com/showth ... ?p=4235193

Are you at all related to Mr. Tatro or his press office?

Oh, yer a friend. Fair enough, I guess - though why bring up the akashic record stuff if he's appearing to talk JFK straight-parapolitical stuff?

07-20-2006, 09:15 AM
fruhmenschen
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Re: FBI Watch
a species that hires bodyguards to protect it looses the ability to protect itself and is doomed to extinction

you might want to call the History channel and ask why they pulled Episode #9 of their series THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY
LBJ's attorney Barr McLellan opens the program stating "LBJ killed Kennedy"
JFK researcher Ed Tatro comes on next and says" you can't have a successfull assassination without the cooperation of the next president, the FBI and the Secret Service." the program was pulled within days after its initial airing even though it had the highest audience viewer ratings of any program in the series.

google Ed Tatro and Barr McClellan-be aware the character assassins came down with the full force of the govt after the program was aired. Barr McClellan's son is/was press secretary to George Bush.
Tatro is a friend. We were involved in bringing him to speak at Bates College
on two seperate occasions during the 1990's. He has over 1200 slides and a 4 hour presentation that leaves you gasping for breath. Both men will be speaking on the same panel this fall in Texas. I posted the event in a earlier post.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... =firefox-a

More on Tatro's past JFK appearances:

Ed Tatro is a high school and college teacher in Quincy, Mass. A heavyset, verbose, energetic man, he has been trying for 25 years to dump most, if not all , of the blame for the JFK assassination onto Lyndon Baines Johnson. His obssession had a way of undermining his credibility. He raced through an hour long slide show that proved nothing, speaking in a rapid-fire manner with much waving of arms, salty language, vehement accusations and humor varying greatly in its level of taste. If LBJ had in fact been one of the sinister architects of the assassination conspiracy, this did not seem to be the way to going about preparing the inditement.

...

"JFK and the Mafia" was moderated by Peter Dale Scott and David Scheim, with Edgar Tatro being given about 5 minutes to speak. Scheim specializes in research on the Mafia and is known for his book: "Contract on America: The Mafia Murder of JFK".

http://www.fermentmagazine.org/jfka.html

Again, I'm not one to talk, I do blend paranormal and parapolitical topics under certain circumstances. I just don't feel conflating COPA with researching Jung's Collective Unconscious / Akashic Record is a winning combination. It undermines the legitimacy of COPA.

Back to my lurking hiatus.

Ed Tatro will be attending this year's COPA Conference
in Dallas this coming weekend. see http://politicalassassinations.com/

There is no statute of limitation for the FBI agents involved with the murder of President Kennedy. Furthermore there is some proof that the Hindu concept called the Akashic Records exist. What this means is there is a record of the Kennedy assassination on how it really went down.
The Akashic Records are a record of everything that has ever occured.
Harvard professor Richard Alpert has documented people who were able to access these records in his books including THE ONLY DANCE THERE IS . There is also the work of Professor Charles Hapgood from the University of New Hampshire and Edgar Cayce as well as Caroline Myss.
We we so impressed with the talk Ed Tatro gave on the President Johnson connection to the Kennedy assassination we brought him on two different occasions to speak at our local college.
He will be at the Annual COPA conference in Dallas
see http://politicalassassinations.com/2010 ... announced/
that will present the latest evidence connecting the dots linking the people who killed Kennedy. If you remember my previous posts on this thread Ed Tatro scripted the History Channel program called THE GUILTY MEN . He also appears in the show that was part of a 9 part series called THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY
The GUILTY MEN was pulled off the air even though it experienced record sales and the History Channel refuses to sell any more copies.
To view an excerpt of THE GUILTY MEN banned by the History Channel see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5lFhU4dHi4

Yo slick elf , you are good. The only problem is your misdirection won't be picked up by people on this forum. I don't know who you work for but its not the good guys.
Nowhere in my post do you see me say Ed Tatro will speak about the Akashic Records your post" I actually believe in the "Akashic Records" but from a more Jungian perspective but the idea of having this sort of topic pollute a COPA conference, which from my limited experience has always been factually based and rational, this seems like a smear against COPA - suggesting that Mr. Tatro will be speaking at the conference about the Akashic record "

I love that move slick. Your next move was almost as good with your " I actually believe in the "Akashic Records" but from a more Jungian perspective "

Where do you see Carl Jung in my post?
I think the Hindu concept of the Akashic Records predates Jung and his theory by about 7,000 years.
You can read Charles Hapgood's book Voices of the Spirit as he accesses the Akashic Records through Elwood Babbitt
or Caroline Myss's work Why we don't Heal or Ram Dass aka Richard Alpert accessing the Akashic Records through Neem Karoli Babba

How about this next piece of misdirection from slick elf . Nowhere do I say Ed Tatro is speaking at the COPA conference this week. I say he is attending the event.
Big difference from what you say " suggesting that Mr. Tatro will be speaking at the conference about the Akashic record "

Sorry you thought my post was some sort of Rorschach Test subject to your interpretation. Not bad slick especially since you never heard or saw Ed Tatro speak.
glad to see you summarize his qualification only knowing about the man from the selective internet research you did as follows
"[quote]
Ed Tatro is a high school and college teacher in Quincy, Mass. A heavyset, verbose, energetic man, he has been trying for 25 years to dump most, if not all , of the blame for the JFK assassination onto Lyndon Baines Johnson. His obssession had a way of undermining his credibility. He raced through an hour long slide show that proved nothing, speaking in a rapid-fire manner with much waving of arms, salty language, vehement accusations and humor varying greatly in its level of taste. If LBJ had in fact been one of the sinister architects of the assassination conspiracy, this did not seem to be the way to going about preparing the inditement. "

I don't know about the rest of the folks on this forum but I plan to keep an eye on slick elf. I think he is one of them.

[sunny]

I don't know who you work for but its not the good guys.

Not cool, and very much against board rules.

[barracuda]

Agreed. fruhmenschen, keep in mind:

Suggesting a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation is not permitted.

Please try to keep it civil.

[elfismiles]

Ed Tatro will be attending this year's COPA Conference
in Dallas this coming weekend. see http://politicalassassinations.com/

There is no statute of limitation for the FBI agents involved with the murder of President Kennedy. Furthermore there is some proof that the Hindu concept called the Akashic Records exist. What this means is there is a record of the Kennedy assassination on how it really went down.
The Akashic Records are a record of everything that has ever occured.
Harvard professor Richard Alpert has documented people who were able to access these records in his books including THE ONLY DANCE THERE IS . There is also the work of Professor Charles Hapgood from the University of New Hampshire and Edgar Cayce as well as Caroline Myss.
We we so impressed with the talk Ed Tatro gave on the President Johnson connection to the Kennedy assassination we brought him on two different occasions to speak at our local college.
He will be at the Annual COPA conference in Dallas
see http://politicalassassinations.com/2010 ... announced/
that will present the latest evidence connecting the dots linking the people who killed Kennedy. If you remember my previous posts on this thread Ed Tatro scripted the History Channel program called THE GUILTY MEN . He also appears in the show that was part of a 9 part series called THE MEN WHO KILLED KENNEDY
The GUILTY MEN was pulled off the air even though it experienced record sales and the History Channel refuses to sell any more copies.
To view an excerpt of THE GUILTY MEN banned by the History Channel see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5lFhU4dHi4

Yo slick elf , you are good. The only problem is your misdirection won't be picked up by people on this forum. I don't know who you work for but its not the good guys.
Nowhere in my post do you see me say Ed Tatro will speak about the Akashic Records your post" I actually believe in the "Akashic Records" but from a more Jungian perspective but the idea of having this sort of topic pollute a COPA conference, which from my limited experience has always been factually based and rational, this seems like a smear against COPA - suggesting that Mr. Tatro will be speaking at the conference about the Akashic record "

I love that move slick. Your next move was almost as good with your " I actually believe in the "Akashic Records" but from a more Jungian perspective "

Where do you see Carl Jung in my post?
I think the Hindu concept of the Akashic Records predates Jung and his theory by about 7,000 years.
You can read Charles Hapgood's book Voices of the Spirit as he accesses the Akashic Records through Elwood Babbitt
or Caroline Myss's work Why we don't Heal or Ram Dass aka Richard Alpert accessing the Akashic Records through Neem Karoli Babba

How about this next piece of misdirection from slick elf . Nowhere do I say Ed Tatro is speaking at the COPA conference this week. I say he is attending the event.
Big difference from what you say " suggesting that Mr. Tatro will be speaking at the conference about the Akashic record "

Sorry you thought my post was some sort of Rorschach Test subject to your interpretation. Not bad slick especially since you never heard or saw Ed Tatro speak.
glad to see you summarize his qualification only knowing about the man from the selective internet research you did as follows
"

Ed Tatro is a high school and college teacher in Quincy, Mass. A heavyset, verbose, energetic man, he has been trying for 25 years to dump most, if not all , of the blame for the JFK assassination onto Lyndon Baines Johnson. His obssession had a way of undermining his credibility. He raced through an hour long slide show that proved nothing, speaking in a rapid-fire manner with much waving of arms, salty language, vehement accusations and humor varying greatly in its level of taste. If LBJ had in fact been one of the sinister architects of the assassination conspiracy, this did not seem to be the way to going about preparing the inditement. "

I don't know about the rest of the folks on this forum but I plan to keep an eye on slick elf. I think he is one of them.

[Wilbur Whatley]

Okay, here is a thread where the original poster is utterly full of crap, and where I myself know why, and more.

1. Johnson had nothing to do with the JFK murder. That is a terrible lie. JFK was killed on the order of New Orleans mob boss Carlos Marcello. I know this from conversations with my mentor, an extremely high level DOJ official, who was at one time the top immigration law adviser to JFK and RFK.

Marcello was one of the worst mafia dons in U.S. history. He was notorious for personally eliminating his enemies by lowering them by chain into barrels of lye, as he watched them being dissolved and screaming in pain.

He was an "illegal alien" (although I deplore that term). He was born in Sicily, and his parents never did anything to regularize his immigration status in the United States. The U.S. government was pissed at him since he had hired the best U.S. immigration lawyer of all time, Jack Wasserman, who kept kicking the government's ass in court.

So JFK and RFK put a job on him. They had him picked up by the CIA at night and flown to a remote airfield in the jungles of Guatemala, where they just kicked him off the plane. If I remember correctly, he was already in his 50s at this time. He walked by himself all the way through the jungles of Guatemala and Mexico, and up through Mexico, dodging poisonous snakes, alligators, and so forth. And he crossed the border illegally into the United States with a burning hatred.

Remember Jack Ruby? The bar owner who killed Lee Harvey Oswald right after he was arrested. He was a made man in the Marcello mob in New Orleans.

2. The Akashic Records? Yes, they are true. I've had a handful of mystical experiences in my life. The most dramatic was a time when I was at my desk in a revery, in 1982. Let me stop...I've written about this before...not going to tell all details now. There are many more details needed to flesh out the experience. But here is the core:

I had a near-death experience, although I was in good health at the time, at age 27. I fell into a trance and was shown the Akashic records. They exist. It is a gigantic holographic database of EVERYTHING. Perhaps one can access that in Heaven. One thinks of a question and has EVERYTHING related instantly available, in all sensory and analytical modalities. (I'm not going to do so now, but my recollection of this is MUCH more detailed than this quick summary.)

In this revery I was tempted...pulled down the tunnel of death toward the "light" (a glowing being that at the time I thought was Jesus, but now I think was probably the Devil) and offered ALL OF THAT KNOWLEDGE (which had always been my big goal, to learn everything) if I would go on down the tunnel into the "light".

I said HELL NO! and erupted out of my dream, although I had been sorely tempted.

This was not a "dream." I'm hoping to find someday what it really was.

[streeb]

The "Mob Did It" theory suggests that the Mafia controlled key elements of the Military, the Intelligence community, the anti-Castro groups, the Dallas police, the Secret Service, the doctors at Parkland, the personnel at Bethesda, the White House, the FBI, the Warren Commission, and the media - just for starters - but somehow they couldn't stop Bob Blakey of the HSCA from saying, "the Mob did it."

Makes sense to me.

[slomo]

2. The Akashic Records? Yes, they are true. I've had a handful of mystical experiences in my life. The most dramatic was a time when I was at my desk in a revery, in 1982. Let me stop...I've written about this before...not going to tell all details now. There are many more details needed to flesh out the experience. But here is the core:

I had a near-death experience, although I was in good health at the time, at age 27. I fell into a trance and was shown the Akashic records. They exist. It is a gigantic holographic database of EVERYTHING. Perhaps one can access that in Heaven. One thinks of a question and has EVERYTHING related instantly available, in all sensory and analytical modalities. (I'm not going to do so now, but my recollection of this is MUCH more detailed than this quick summary.)

In this revery I was tempted...pulled down the tunnel of death toward the "light" (a glowing being that at the time I thought was Jesus, but now I think was probably the Devil) and offered ALL OF THAT KNOWLEDGE (which had always been my big goal, to learn everything) if I would go on down the tunnel into the "light".

I said HELL NO! and erupted out of my dream, although I had been sorely tempted.

This was not a "dream." I'm hoping to find someday what it really was.

I am curious, as a matter of discernment, how did you come to the conclusion that the "white light" was really the Devil? How do you believe Jesus would have presented Himself, and what do you believe He would have done or asked of you?

[streeb]

"It's a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma..."

I don't really think so, chump. Not anymore. I think you can see the outlines pretty clearly these days, even name some names.

Ms. Brown did say that LBJ arrived to the party late.

Ms. Brown is the only source when it comes to the Murchison party. It's not enough, combined with the fact that it's silly.

[justdrew]

LBJ arrived and was photographed at the Hotel Texas in Fort Worth at 11:50 on the night of November 21. How did he get to the Murchison party in Dallas? When did he arrive? How and when did he get back to Fort Worth, unnoticed?

I don't get it. guy writes a huge book all about LBJ connection with that part anecdote being one of the main well known pieces of evidence, and ALL ALONG there was an exculpatory photograph in existence. I suppose the author didn't know about this photo ahead of spending what years writing that book? Where and when did this photograph come to light?

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Agreed. fruhmenschen, keep in mind:

Suggesting a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation is not permitted.

Please try to keep it civil.

...sure....

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

See 'blame it on the dead guy' strategy.

The spooks still try to blame Vietnam on JFK even though he signed NSAM 263 ending the debacle.

But LBJ really was a murderous thug in Texas politics.
But he didn't stage the 1963 coup. He just benefited by not being prosecuted and dumped from the ticket.

[Wilbur Whatley]

I am curious, as a matter of discernment, how did you come to the conclusion that the "white light" was really the Devil? How do you believe Jesus would have presented Himself, and what do you believe He would have done or asked of you?

Thank you for responding to my weird post. There have been quite a few instances in my life where it seems, and I have been told by others, that I have an unusually powerful sense of "discernment," so I was interested to see you use that term. But in this story of my own life--which has always seemed to me to be a critical doorway--I don't trust my discernment at all.

I'm a religious Catholic. The event occurred about a month into my sobering up for the first time, and I was generally in a "pink cloud" of spiritual growth. For about the first time in my adult life, I was doing a lot of running and other exercises, to detoxify. I came back from a several mile run, had a couple of hits of average pot, and suddenly I was launched into the "Akashic records." This wasn't the drug. I've smoked pot many hundreds of times, often at much greater doses and strengths. This was a visitation.

At the time, I sincerely thought it was Jesus inviting me into paradise. I had a petty reason for declining the invitation. Although I had just been tempted with my heart's desire--universal knowledge--I was also dominated by the thought that I hadn't slept with enough women yet! So my thought was, wow! what a great offer, but later please! That's pretty ignominious, but it's the truth.

The temptation has never returned in almost 30 years. I was given a choice, and I made it. I often think about this.

As to your question, I have not "concluded" that it was the Devil. But the more I think about it--and pick up hints from things I read along the way--more and more I think that Jesus doesn't operate like that, while the Devil does. It is well known in scripture that the Devil comes in robes of light. I actually now think that the evil one was trying to trick me into a strange kind of suicide, which is something that is very common in my family (at least 7 close relatives).

But I can't prove this, of course. The whole thing just creeps me out.

That's quite a bit of an answer, but it only scratches the surface.

Thanks again for asking. I'm kind of lonely for answers on things like this.

[barracuda]

Ms. Brown is the only source when it comes to the Murchison party. It's not enough, combined with the fact that it's silly.

It seems like every story which attempts to reconcile the Murchison party with the Hotel Texas requires an inordinate amount of conjecture and running around the countryside.

Where and when did this photograph come to light?

Could someone please produce these photos? I have heard there are more than one, but I cannot find them. :sad emoticon:

...sure....

I didn't mean you. You're special.