Who Is Gordon Duff?

[seemslikeadream]

Nope, you are not alone. I am new here and already shocked at some of the anti-Jew/Israel stuff tolerated here.

Usually I do something about it in short order but I made promises that I intend to keep, early on etc etc.

Back to my corner...

excuse me but that is not true unless you find pro Palestinian to mean anti-Jew

and I would really like to see proof of your accusations

[AhabsOtherLeg]

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It can boil all down to something very simple, if we happen to be comparing Duff and Assange as credible sources (and, let's face it, we are).

Gordon Duff is a Marine Vietnam veteran, and Senior Editor at Veterans Today. His career has included extensive experience in international banking along with such diverse areas as consulting on counter insurgency, defense technologies or acting as diplomatic officer of UN humanitarian groups.

With the possible exception of the UN diplomatic humanitarian officer stuff (8bit and many others are suspicious of the UN - actually, we all are, surely) this would normally be a red-flag background, wouldn't it? It's quite a trajectory - US Army, International banking, a defense and counter-insurgency consultancy (where he never learned to put a hyphen between counter and insurgency). And he still champions the US Army to this day. Surely, by all the past standards of this board, that just doesn't look good?

Then we have a man, however unlikeable, who has been hacking the American military's computer systems since his teens, and spreading the information around - who was convicted for doing it (maybe his incredibly light sentence could be a source for suspicion - I wouldn't argue with that). Then he stopped hacking, but went on leaking the secrets of governments, for the rest of his adult life up to this point, recently spending a short time in jail because of it (or, at least, as a direct consequence of it). The work of his organisation helped to bring down a massively corrupt government in Kenya - there was violence, there was death, as a direct result of that work, he admits - and also helped expose the Icelandic banking system as not just inept or useless but deliberately fraudulent.

He's released a few other things since then, such as direct primary evidence of war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan, the fact (now a proven fact) that the Chilcott Inquiry was a sham, and, etc.

So yeah. Who is Gordon Duff, and why are we even talking about him? His background sounds quite suss, but it's probably okay because I'd bet money (up to £20) that he's never been anywhere near the army anyways, or international banking, or the UN. That last bit's just my personal opinion, though. I have zero evidence. Thankfully, neither does he.

[Nordic]

Nope, you are not alone. I am new here and already shocked at some of the anti-Jew/Israel stuff tolerated here.

Usually I do something about it in short order but I made promises that I intend to keep, early on etc etc.

Back to my corner...

Ha. Okay, "Hacktivist", you've probably noticed that Alice is far better informed, and a far better writer, than almost anyone here (perhaps everyone) yet you have the gall to post such a comment while her back is basically turned. Nice job.

If you disagree with her, why don't you address her directly?

Because she would eat your fucking lunch, that's why, and you are a cowardly douchebag.

[barracuda]

If anyone sees writing here which they feel crosses the line of the posting guidelines, they should flag the post and alert the mods.

This thread is not about Alice. If you disagree with her, and she keeps within the bounds of the guidelines, then you must defeat her kung-fu with your kung-fu.

Please return to the topic at hand rather than continue an impromptu referendum on AlicetheKurious. If that can't happen, I'm locking it.

[justdrew]

Usually I do something about it in short order but I made promises that I intend to keep, early on etc etc.

if you want to go smiting anti-Semites there's no shortage of legitimate targets out there. in the here and now though, running around making threats you promise not to act on isn't particularly endearing. What SPECIFIC post do you see that warrants inflicting ANY kind of harm to anyone? Point one or two out, or refrain from making gross generalizations.

[The Hacktivist]

Usually I do something about it in short order but I made promises that I intend to keep, early on etc etc.

if you want to go smiting anti-Semites there's no shortage of legitimate targets out there. in the here and now though, running around making threats you promise not to act on isn't particularly endearing. What SPECIFIC post do you see that warrants inflicting ANY kind of harm to anyone? Point one or two out, or refrain from making gross generalizations.

Indeed there is and we spend a lot of our time taking care of them. No harm ever comes to anyone, we just fix whats broken.


My apologies regarding what I said about this place, I have indeed seen some comments that I dont much care for but it is indeed nothing compared to the many other sites out there dedicated to such.

I dont make threats.

I promised Jeff there would be no shenanigans and I mean to keep that promise.

[The Hacktivist]

Nope, you are not alone. I am new here and already shocked at some of the anti-Jew/Israel stuff tolerated here.

Usually I do something about it in short order but I made promises that I intend to keep, early on etc etc.

Back to my corner...

excuse me but that is not true unless you find pro Palestinian to mean anti-Jew

and I would really like to see proof of your accusations

What accusations did I make? I merely said Vanlose was not alone, I do indeed see a lot of antisemitic shit on here that I dont care for, not to mention this silly shit over and over that wikileaks is Israsel.

To the rest of you, go fuck yourselves, I didnt say shit about Alice, take it up with VK.

[Wombaticus Rex]

So wait....did this thread seriously start with an extensive cut-n-paste of a bunch of f'ing white supremacists talking shit about some blogger? Did that just happen?

[Jeff]

To the topic, or to another thread, but an end please to the grunting and the clawing of ground.

[vanlose kid]

If anyone sees writing here which they feel crosses the line of the posting guidelines, they should flag the post and alert the mods.

This thread is not about Alice. If you disagree with her, and she keeps within the bounds of the guidelines, then you must defeat her kung-fu with your kung-fu.

Please return to the topic at hand rather than continue an impromptu referendum on AlicetheKurious. If that can't happen, I'm locking it.

sorry, 'cuda, but unless repetitive hammering of the same point again and again and again by any means necessary is kung fu i don't see any kung fu there. my bad i guess.

i'm done here. for real.

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[justdrew]

Usually I do something about it in short order but I made promises that I intend to keep, early on etc etc.

if you want to go smiting anti-Semites there's no shortage of legitimate targets out there. in the here and now though, running around making threats you promise not to act on isn't particularly endearing. What SPECIFIC post do you see that warrants inflicting ANY kind of harm to anyone? Point one or two out, or refrain from making gross generalizations.

Indeed there is and we spend a lot of our time taking care of them. No harm ever comes to anyone, we just fix whats broken.


My apologies regarding what I said about this place, I have indeed seen some comments that I dont much care for but it is indeed nothing compared to the many other sites out there dedicated to such.

I dont make threats.

I promised Jeff there would be no shenanigans and I mean to keep that promise.

well ok then. thanks. So attacking anti-Semitic web sites (or just generally racist?) or something (you mean like skinheads?) takes up "a lot" of A.'s time? Really? How significant would you consider that type of organization in the over all scheme of things, where do those groups fit in? I wish I had a better idea of what you mean

[JackRiddler]

sorry, 'cuda, but unless repetitive hammering of the same point again and again and again by any means necessary is kung fu i don't see any kung fu there. my bad i guess.

i'm done here. for real.

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Oh don't do that. Thanks.

[compared2what?]

I saw that Gilad Atzmon has very recently joined Veterans Today as a contributor; I would be very doubtful if he would associate with something dodgy BTH.

There's more than one kind of dodgy in this dodginess-ridden world, honey. And it's not exactly a seller's market for pundits, opiners, and activist-essay-writers of any political stripe these days. If having a platform is at all important to them for any reason, financial or ideological, they all have to pretty much take what they can get, of a necessity.

And if you'd rate "providing filler material that's likely to engage the feelings and lower the guard of a specific class of needy military veterans enough that rich government-contracted bankers can get yet richer by luring them into a higher level of debt than most of them will probably be able to repay" as a dodgy thing to do, then there's a very damn strong circumstantial case to be made that wittingly or not, he is in fact associated with something dodgy.

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Is this thing even on? One, two, testing.

[nathan28]

So wait....did this thread seriously start with an extensive cut-n-paste of a bunch of f'ing white supremacists talking shit about some blogger? Did that just happen?

Are you suggesting that it's not a legit topic for discussion? Before this thread I was unaware that anyone would attempt to defend David Duke as having been the victim of mainstream media misrepresentation, and that Duff attracts people of that type. I was similarly not aware of the information in, and could not have taken c2w's position, which I think is excellent, so, as long as the links here are borked I can't see much harm.

[Iamwhomiam]

Hackativist, please expound on this: "Indeed there is and we spend a lot of our time taking care of them. No harm ever comes to anyone, we just fix whats broken."

Who is "we?"

Please explain what is that you do while spending a lot of your time "...taking care of them."

What is it that you consider to be "broken" that you have appointed yourselves the duty to "fix?"

Of course, you do have their permission to "fix" what's broken," right?

Seems to me that your screen name may be fitting.

Vanlose kid, because of the volatility of this subject, I do wish that you had instead communicated to Alice privately your concerns. Perhaps you may never come to agreement, but walking away solves nothing, at least in this case. You should at least try to resolve your differences of opinion, imo. Without engaging diplomacy there is little hope for peace.