I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto RI?

[blanc]

"While Alex Jones brags about how "wonderful" it is how many people have "woken up", I personally have come to feel a lot of this stuff is disruptive to some people's mental wellbeing, job, even family life."
I have this dilemma. I have recently been contacted by a group of friends who knew me before things happened to change my life and perceptions of 'events'. This has thrown me into something between panic and depression, grieving for loss of innocence and what should have been. How am I going to explain the shipwreck of my life without imparting toxic knowledge. Do I slap a smile on and make up stories or just come out with it? To a limited extent I have been able to make reference to this knowledge on RI. Some posters get it entirely (mainly those who've been thrown into the same pit), some find their rigorous intuition leads them to debunk it.

[LilyPatToo]

I could have written your post above, blanc. My solution to the dilemma has been to withdraw from contact with those friends who've reacted to my awakening with dismay and I try to do it in such a way that no feelings are wounded unnecessarily. It's not really their fault that they live in an alternate reality of ignorance, given the many hurdles placed in the path of anyone who tries to wake up in our society. At first I was very hurt that they wouldn't come here to even look over the evidence, but over the years I've come to appreciate the cost of doing so.

Now I still offer information and recommend RI, but attach no emotion to the outcome, since a lot of the folks I know are living under such stress that they're unable to process an unmasking of the dream in which they've grown up. I know what the cognitive dissonance did to me for the first few years of eyes-open existence--it was like that scene in Matrix where Neo wakes up in the pod and the pipes and tubes that have kept him alive are ripped out. Hurts like hell. As much as I long for the manipulated masses who cheer US fascism to awaken, I want even more desperately for my friends on the left to awaken and see that they too are part of the problem as long as they swallow the pablum fed to them and do nothing. But most are scrambling to find or keep a job and the need to keep a roof over their and their family's heads eats up all the mental energy they have and most of their emotional reserves too...how do I yank the blindfold from their eyes without blinding them? Their resistance isn't justifiable, but it is understandable.

So I continue to urge anyone who seems to be beginning to question authority to come here and read. If they can take it, hopefully they'll stick around and hopefully the inevitable disillusionment and depression won't overwhelm them completely or permanently.

LilyPat

[Nordic]

I've always been an outcast thanks to my brain, so this place is like the Island of Forgotten Toys for me.

I feel fairly average here, which is nice.

Great post, BTW, Norton Ash.

And everybody, and yes, thanks to Jeff.

82, I was struck immediately at how vaginal that cut on your girlfriend's arm was/is.

Weird stuff.

I witnessed a strange moment of .... I don't know, serendipity? .... yesterday. On a location scout, a bunch of us in a passenger van, we stopped for lunch, dropped off in a parking lot. After we ate, we were hanging out outside the restaurant and one of us found a bluetooth headset lying in the weeds. This place was crowded, tons of people, we had no idea who could have dropped it, how long it had been there. My buddy stuck it in his pocket just for the hell of it.

We're back in the van, driving down the highway again, and this woman turns around from the front seat, looks right at my buddy and said "okay, where's my earpiece?"

She had no idea any of this had transpired, she couldn't find it and thought it had fallen to the floor of the van behind her and that he must have seen it. He and I looked at each other in disbelief and we all had a good weird laugh about it.

[Stephen Morgan]

Hugh there is nothing like the amount of WOO on this board that there used to be, and I for one miss it.

Maybe we all started off hearty and cheery and have since realised the hopelessness of our situation, abandoning our belief in airy-fairy ultraterrestrials for the more hard-headed knowledge of the kiddie-fiddling, drug-running, vote-rigging narcopederasts who run the world. I came here, indirectly, from Saucer Smear because I was interested in you-foes and therefore the evil gnome Randi. Now I'm watching Blake's 7 and thinking how prescient it is, in having their sought alliance with the Earth mafia thwarted by the fact that the Earth mafia is secretly run by the Federation President.

You scare it off sometimes. I dunno if thats healthy.

So temper your appreciation for sophisticated knowledge and usernames by recognizing this board's paradox.
Maybe...promote rationalism and displace the CIA's mind-bending W.O.O. which the admin here promotes.

Seriously man you're starting to sound like Fintan Dunn. Rationalism is overrated anyway, and the CIA W.O.O. that you go on about doesn't happen as much as you think. Tho I have to admit it does happen. And I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out.

I enjoyed the recent Fortean Times revealing the probable origins of the Washington you-foe flap in USG ECM experiments. I've gone full circle on the you-foe issue, from nuts-and-bolts ETH, to Hollow Earth, to 4D and ultraterrestrials, to secret government project and MK screen memory. And I blame all of you.

Also, it's a very long time since I lost a post here. That board upgrade was well-worth it.

[gnosticheresy_2]

Rationalism is overrated anyway, the nuts-and-bolts ETH, Hollow Earth, 4D and ultraterrestrials, secret government project and MK screen memory that you go on about doesn't happen as much as you think. Tho I have to admit it does happen. And I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out.

Fixed it for you

[WakeUpAndLive]

In just my short time here I can confidently say that this community is one of the most tame on the internet, especially with regards to the information being present here. As an earlier poster said, I really feel this is a place for people to find on their own, or at least to partake in on their own. The type and volume of information is truly a lot to grasp, especially if you are just entering into this field.

Being fairly new to this site and some of the deeper aspects of control, it really can be overwhelming, so I wouldn't be surprised to see potential members put off by the plethora of information and opinion found on this site. You guys do have a pretty good archive system, but for those who just have never contemplated these ideas, finding a starting point can be daunting. I've found the various movies a great starting point...users can pause, restart, watch while cooking dinner, etc etc.

Unfortunately, movies don't require much critical thinking, which is why sites like this are awesome. I know for me having an archive of great documentaries, with links to discussion threads on said documentaries, it would be much easier to break into this field without being overwhelmed all at once. It truly is a HUGE task to perform, but just an idea to help people who might feel overwhelmed but truly want to know more.


In closing, thank you OP, thank you Jeff for providing an open place for discussion, thank you for the researchers and dedicated members of this board who provide a clear reflection of their ideas. Peace and love everyone!

[nathan28]

Mostly what Stephen M. says.

one of the most tame on the internet

that's really disappointing. I drank half a handle last night, does that count for anything?

[WakeUpAndLive]

Mostly what Stephen M. says.

one of the most tame on the internet

that's really disappointing. I drank half a handle last night, does that count for anything?

Now you can blame it on the al-al-al-al-alllcohol?

[8bitagent]

82_28: I'm glad you and your of are alright, and I hope you guys don't suffer any permanent nerve damage. I know I've been rather klutzy with myself over the years or kind of absent minded. No way I could work some equipment heavy job or construction.

There was a period where the name-calling and immaturity got a bit much on here, I'm sure I was not immune to it either...but things seem all good. I love all you guys! Even the ones I strongly disagree with. I can't say that about any other political forum Ive been on(which usually dipped way too far into mainstream left gate-keeping or patriot right wing kookery)

I think for some, RI may shed light on questions, if at least provide a "hmmm...you know, I hadn't thought of it like that" moment.

The whole notion of "syncs", while perhaps not pointing to any one particular material culprit and being seen as mere scrabble to others; seems like a very stable inquiry. It won't bring trials in a court, but neither does the painstaking testimony whistleblowers sadly.

One thing is, I wish SOME sort of documentary could spawn from people on here. So many talented people, and as a documentary junkie I could just imagine what some could come up with. I know it'd beat the pants off eye rolling garbage like Zeitgeist. Shoot, pretty much every single blog post by Jeff could be its own mind blowing documentary.

I enjoyed the recent Fortean Times revealing the probable origins of the Washington you-foe flap in USG ECM experiments. I've gone full circle on the you-foe issue, from nuts-and-bolts ETH, to Hollow Earth, to 4D and ultraterrestrials, to secret government project and MK screen memory. And I blame all of you.

Also, it's a very long time since I lost a post here. That board upgrade was well-worth it.

I would love to believe the UFO phenomenon is all black budget pentagon corporate spookery. It would make the world just a lot less nuts and digestible. If one reads through Jeff's book and finds even some of the woo plausible...well, then there are no rules to reality and life is upside down.

[brekin]

WakeUpAndLive wrote:

In closing, thank you OP, thank you Jeff for providing an open place for discussion, thank you for the researchers and dedicated members of this board who provide a clear reflection of their ideas. Peace and love everyone!

Amen to that.

[Joe Hillshoist]

Maybe we all started off hearty and cheery and have since realised the hopelessness of our situation, abandoning our belief in airy-fairy ultraterrestrials for the more hard-headed knowledge of the kiddie-fiddling, drug-running, vote-rigging narcopederasts who run the world. I came here, indirectly, from Saucer Smear because I was interested in you-foes and therefore the evil gnome Randi.

I kind of already suspected that. RIs always approached that whole thing with some subtlty. Things still eat the suffering. The state is still an egregore that stays healthy by wars.

The ultraterrestrials are still there btw, hanging out doing what they do.

We don't talk about the weirdness here as much cos its all been said, years ago. There have been some extremely funky threads on this place, tho at the moment I can't seem to find many of them.

Now I'm watching Blake's 7 and thinking how prescient it is, in having their sought alliance with the Earth mafia thwarted by the fact that the Earth mafia is secretly run by the Federation President.

I enjoyed the recent Fortean Times revealing the probable origins of the Washington you-foe flap in USG ECM experiments. I've gone full circle on the you-foe issue, from nuts-and-bolts ETH, to Hollow Earth, to 4D and ultraterrestrials, to secret government project and MK screen memory. And I blame all of you.

Also, it's a very long time since I lost a post here. That board upgrade was well-worth it.

I remember watching Blake 7 as a kid. It was really good. Especially the space ships. And ORAC - how cool was that. Why doesn't my computer look like ORAC? Thats the real conspiracy.

I haven't seen that Ft thing. Can read it at their site or is it a paywall thing?

Different things are different things btw. Its silly to assume that cos the CIA followed Wasson to Mexico Pablo Amaringo's paintings are less intriguing.

[Nordic]

We don't talk about the weirdness here as much cos its all been said, years ago.

It seems that your basic "current events" provides all the weirdness anyone could ever want.

That's my take on it, anyway .....

[winsomecowboy2]

I am selfish and distrustful and moderately intelligent just in that.
I have been here since the beginning, my first thought when seeing this topic was. "Oh look a honeytrap"

I much rather observe I think because I gain more that way and I would rather my selfishness was passive than actively engaging fellow brittle ego's. That said I'm making an effort.

I recognise many forms of self flattery mask my distrust. I enjoy for myself because I am pleasured somehow by the waves of immediacy of peril that come and go. The sudden, 'This is the month/week' whatever, Volcanos, earthquakes,magnetic realignments, etc there are the slower pleasures of doom like the environment and economies. I gain relief and some morbid pleasure from those being here also.
I think rationally because at some level, from as early as prenatally perhaps, many of us just know all this is untenable.
This site gives shape/shapes to those menacing half perceived forms that circle the pitiful campfires of our conscious minds.
I like that the folk here are at least peering out into the dark rather than being mesmerized by their own lanterns.
I absolutely love the feeling I get that this site is some precocious amalgam of a ferociously intelligent collective child trying to articulate it's abandonment issues with modern civilization and common reality.

I'm a bit florid and I'm untidy in my metaphor and I'm altogether a little jumbled.
Like this site I've stopped pretending I'm anything other. and it's more than OK.

I wouldn't risk getting evangelical with it. It's a personal tool rather than a commodity.

It allows me to feel contained and less isolated.

[Joe Hillshoist]

We don't talk about the weirdness here as much cos its all been said, years ago.

It seems that your basic "current events" provides all the weirdness anyone could ever want.

That's my take on it, anyway .....

Thats a good point actually.

[Sounder]

winsomecowboy2 your whole post had me in stitches, especially this line:

I absolutely love the feeling I get that this site is some precocious amalgam of a ferociously intelligent collective child trying to articulate it's abandonment issues with modern civilization and common reality.

I resist reading threads that I fear are going to be gossip centered or self-congratulatory. Most often though when I do read these threads, I'm quite surprised by the insightful nuggets, the sharp turns of phrase, and the analysis, humor and passion. Still climbing down from my own high-horse I guess.

As to turning others on to RI? I think self selection is more reliable. And for future reference, some studies, and the success of the corporate model of Gore-tex suggests that limiting any group to around 150 people aids in the maintenance of responsive interpersonal relations.

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