Eyes of the Mothman - 2011 documentary

[8bitagent]

Contactee and witness reports have always run a pretty wide gamut as far as the aesthetics of craft and their occupants are concerned. It is HIGHLY entertaining to imagine extraterrestrials sitting down to think about how to project themselves to humankind - in antiquity, they settled on angels, then devils, then hair-covered hominids in 16th-century Asia onward, then fairies, then little people, then fat michelin men in 19th and 20th century France, then little green men, then robots, then greys, then reptilians, etc etc. Or on the flipside, through Hugh's lens, it is also highly entertaining to imagine intelligence agencies deciding how to project these psychonauts onto unwitting civilian victims. But the reality of contactee lore show that while a lot of these trends come and go, possibly based on culture, there are a few constants unchanged throughout the years. I like the outlier aesthetics and find some of those cases to be the most frightening and interesting (like Jeff's post here: If you go out in the woods or the Sherman Ranch or Bibendum). I can't ever imagine having an experience like this in general - and trying to imagine a "Michelin Man" contact in my bedroom in the middle of the night is just beyond dissonant. I think when we read contactee reports that sound mysteriously like a lobster humanoid in 1983, or a hammerhead shark humanoid in 1977, we need to take those with a grain of salt, because while the costume designers for the Star Wars trilogy were highly creative folks, I don't know that any one of them were basing their designs off of personal experience with the weird. But hey, maybe!

Believing all of this is simply government psyops is a safe way of envisioning the world...and while many who believe in UFO and high weirdness reject the idea of deep state government coverups/false flags/etc, the phenomenon has been exhaustively reported and so widespread worldwide for it all to me a hoax or lucid feverish dreams. I once joked how there's probably some inter-dimensional black lodge cantina where greys, nordics, mantids, elves, gnomes, men in black, etc all rub elbows and have drinks. "Heh, yeah yesterday me, Chorozon and Blorsplort scared the crap out of some hapless rural Kansas farmers".

I've often said, perhaps the secret of why there's never been a captured bigfoot, faerie or elf is because these are merely projections meant to the person observing(much like the UFO phenomenon) That while they may be temporarily physical for the viewer, leave footprints and whatnot...that they are normally not physical. Which leads one to wonder...are we talking about actual races of various woodland creatures, "aliens", etc...or a giant inter-dimensional psyops? I have not heard of Michelin logo men, but all over the world people report odd stuff...flying men in Croatia, Serbia and Romania. Flying witch creatures and pointy hatted gnomes in Latin America. Pilsbury doughboys in Southeast Asia, Mermaids in Israel and of course phantom clowns in vans circa 1982. The entire nation and government of Iceland for instance, takes elves very seriously and will stop construction projects to make sure there's no "elf" sanctuaries. And of course people have long believed in "little old people" common in Eastern Europe.

Now I must ask...what is up with the classic 50's pulp aesthetic of the "flying silver saucer"? From the 30's through the 60's, this was the common meme. Even the Nazis saw these sort of objects in Tibet.
Then came the more brilliant Close Encounter colored ships, cigar shape craft, white sky worms, orb clusters, crop circles, the giant mile long triangles and finally the shape shifting pyramidal/5-dimensional daytime UFO's. The fivemain alien races people describe being greys, tall beige greys(the communion book cover), bearded dwarves, reptillians, and mantis/insectoids. PErhaps its all ore, drawing back to Sumer and aboriginal/native beliefs. But the 50's pulp saucer craft meme seems to go back to the ancient Indian Vedic texts, as wlel as seen in a number of paintings drawing through antiquity. Fire wheels are also a common theme.

As wondered in Pontypool, what does it all mean?

The Black Lodge pt 1 http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2 ... art-1.html
pt 2 http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2 ... art-2.html

The men in black mythos is remarkably consistent throughout history, when threatening, authoritarian, black-garbed men were going around warning people to keep their mouths shut about various events that had befallen them, through the pre-internet 20th century when a person would have had to have a lot of wherewithal to research the legends and cases to know the details that well.

I have to put this question to the board because my stance is biased - in the 80's and 90's, before the movie, was "men in black" a household phrase? "Men in black" have been a part of my family's history since the 60's because they were the ones who broke into my mother's childhood home (twice), ransacked my grandfather's office, and stole his reports and models of their experience. Though these guys were always presumed by my family to have been agents of the FAA, my grandfather's employer.

I'd love to see a South American Lawn Gnome documentary. Damn.

p.s. 8bit, gmail stopped automatically logging AIM usernames into their service and I was too busy at work to notice for like two weeks. Starting Tuesday I should be back online though.

I literally had no idea men in black meant non corporeal entities. I thought it was just the aesthetic of 1930's-1960's government spooks working for any assorted alphabet agency of the Frank Olson variety...right out of Hugh's research. I think a lot of that stuff can be explained by suit and tie guys working for the government, ala The Good Shepard movie rather than The Adjustment Bureau. Still, the Mothman MIB stuff is quite odd. Yeah there was a spate of reports of pointy hatted gnomes appearing all over south America, may have been a hoax tho

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Guests: Andrew B. Colvin
Mothman Experiences:

On Sunday's show, writer and artist Andy Colvin joined George Knapp to discuss his real experiences with the mysterious Mothman, dating back to his youth in West Virginia. His investigations were triggered after the 9-11 attacks, when he recalled that he and a childhood friend in 1967 received visions from the Mothman of an attack in New York in 2001, with buildings exploding. Interestingly, people also reported precognitive visions of the Silver Bridge collapse before it occurred in December, 1967 (the collapse had been linked to Mothman's visitations in the Point Pleasant area by researcher John Keel). Colvin also said his sister photographed a red-eyed creature at the window that resembled Mothman or a Thunderbird.

Connecting Mothman to ancient lore of huge birdmen such as the Garuda (Hindu/Buddhist) and the Native American's Thunderbird, the entity has functioned as both a cosmic harbinger, and a mirror of people's fears and expectations, when they are at a crossroads in their life, he suggested. He is "an ancient entity that appears over areas that once had Indian mounds," such as where chemical plants have been built, and "I think Mothman is fulfilling a role of sorts-- trying to warn us about pollution," Colvin continued.

Putting together odd sets of synchroncities, and witness interviews, Colvin has come to believe that Mothman encounters have affected people in profound ways. In 2002, he returned to a West Virginia location with family members who had all seen Mothman. "Instantly, this strange thing started happening. The temperature changed, the birds stopped chirping. We saw three cloudy mists...it was like we were standing in front of a mirror," he said, adding that there was also a dark being that was flitting by, which he suspects was Mothman. Later that night, he had a vision of a drowning, and several days later they drove by the area again and saw someone being pulled out of the river.