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Re: peoplestaringatcomputers

Postby tazmic » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:39 pm

"Beautiful. If you wrote a book..."

Aw thanks :bigsmile Given how much trouble it takes to avoid cliche, just being really really cheesy (this seems particularly dominant for me) or just sounding... up myself, that was the last comment I was expecting.

Hey, at a conference on the future of the virtual, which ended up being quite retrospective as we'd done it 15 years ago*, I came across the idea that as technology 'accelerates' (us?) there seems to be an inverse deceleration of culture. I found this compelling*, and if anyone wants to help with the thinking bit, there it is.

(*although there may be an obvious connection here... And I'm not sure one person could be the judge of this.)
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Re: peoplestaringatcomputers

Postby justdrew » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:00 pm

tazmic wrote:"Beautiful. If you wrote a book..."

Aw thanks :bigsmile Given how much trouble it takes to avoid cliche, just being really really cheesy (this seems particularly dominant for me) or just sounding... up myself, that was the last comment I was expecting.

Hey, at a conference on the future of the virtual, which ended up being quite retrospective as we'd done it 15 years ago*, I came across the idea that as technology 'accelerates' (us?) there seems to be an inverse deceleration of culture. I found this compelling*, and if anyone wants to help with the thinking bit, there it is.

(*although there may be an obvious connection here... And I'm not sure one person could be the judge of this.)


Our "culture" hasn't really changed in 30+ years. we just keep going through the same motions.
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Re: peoplestaringatcomputers

Postby Harvey » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:49 pm

Very interesting catch Tazmic. If you take away the frames in the images and the context, these suddenly become the most amazing and absorbing candid portraits.

For me the art of portraiture, both in photography and art, is the photographer or the painter removing the photographer or the painter from the resulting image. People are at their most astonishing simply being themselves, as soon as we sense they are performing for another, for the camera or the artist, they become several layers removed from their highest potential visual interest. For me anyway. I hope that made some sense.

Fascinating stuff.
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Re: peoplestaringatcomputers

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:05 pm

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They don't look so bad to me. Should they be laughing? Passionate? Big crowded store, mildly grumpy, looking at the offerings. (It's New York, isn't it? Or do all those stores look as though they were landed in their designated spot straight from the mother ship?)

Anyway, I agree about the fucking cell phones. They're the real plague in social contexts.

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Re: peoplestaringatcomputers

Postby Harvey » Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:18 pm

JackRiddler wrote:.

They don't look so bad to me. Should they be laughing? Passionate? Big crowded store, mildly grumpy, looking at the offerings. (It's New York, isn't it? Or do all those stores look as though they were landed in their designated spot straight from the mother ship?)

Anyway, I agree about the fucking cell phones. They're the real plague in social contexts.

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That's the thing, if you can mentally seperate these images from their context, (I know that probably defeats the point but it's my immediate response so I'll stick with it) they become imbued with a strange narrative. What is going on in these images? What's the narrative? I begin to project...

The best art is a window to inside ourselves that changes what we see in there.

And cell phones, perhaps they are forcing an evolutionary response. Perhaps one day our survival will depend upon how quickly we can twitch our fingers and thumbs. Alright, probably not, but I have to admit, despite the annoyance of being contactable everywhere, everytime, there is a thrill in sharing real time reactions with someone on the other side of the planet, my sunny afternoon to their rainy neon kissed night, and having to convey one's response, concisely and to the point. Even if we don't become our own journalist, relating our every quotidian response, it forces a certain economy of prose...

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Re: peoplestaringatcomputers

Postby 82_28 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:44 pm

To "cell phones'" credit, I will say this. I have amazed some old timers with GoogleSky and Satellite AR and have struck up nice conversations about such in the last few weeks. Not the tech, but just what we can realize with the tech. To see their eyes open up when you see, in the middle of the day that the waxing moon has Saturn right next to it and shit. Point it to the floor and you can see the Southern Hemisphere. Sure, all emulated nature, but having this shit in my hand is still nature -- human nature. The sci-fi writers of 20-30 years ago warned us about this shit. Now, here we are.

I'm not happy about it either, but this is the world we live in now. There is nothing we can do to turn this back. Don't embrace, but use.

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Re: peoplestaringatcomputers

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:56 pm

@82_28:

As always, thanks for putting these up. I so need to visit Seattle one of these days, but I dig the clippings. Funny how in 1939 newspaper writers were using the same exact modern nomanclature/sarcasm style as today. Even though it wouldn't be until the mid 1970's where movies and tv began to lose the "ye sees here kid" 30's radio voice as far as how people talked/sound was recorded.

tazmic wrote:"Beautiful. If you wrote a book..."

Aw thanks :bigsmile Given how much trouble it takes to avoid cliche, just being really really cheesy (this seems particularly dominant for me) or just sounding... up myself, that was the last comment I was expecting.

Hey, at a conference on the future of the virtual, which ended up being quite retrospective as we'd done it 15 years ago*, I came across the idea that as technology 'accelerates' (us?) there seems to be an inverse deceleration of culture. I found this compelling*, and if anyone wants to help with the thinking bit, there it is.

(*although there may be an obvious connection here... And I'm not sure one person could be the judge of this.)


Hehe, I totally remember the vanguard of "virtual/digital/online/hacker" culture in the 92-94 period. Back when we were told we'd all be wearing VR glasses/helmets and navigating through virtual worlds to do our mall shopping. Well it turned out, people wanted bare essentials: google search bar, craigslist, clean facebook, simple twitter.

There's a number of people on here I would absolutely love to see stories from, even if they were short stories. Has anyone else besides Jeff been published? Actually all you guys write just an amazing wealth of good stuff.

But yeah, I can't recall ever before being at once excited that anyone like me can be an instant hit/get art-music-video out to endless people with no money or ads...yet, I cant recall ever feeling so blah/lacking in something, despite being inspired on creative fronts
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Re: peoplestaringatcomputers

Postby crikkett » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:27 am

tazmic wrote:"Secret agents raid Apple store webcam 'artist'"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14080438

Look now before it goes...

http://peoplestaringatcomputers.tumblr.com/

Give it a few generations and we'll all look like this all the time.


We look like this while reading a book, too, or for that matter while drawing or writing or knitting or sculpting.
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Re: peoplestaringatcomputers

Postby norton ash » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:32 am

We look like this while reading a book, too, or for that matter while drawing or writing or knitting or sculpting.
The problem is the webcams.


True dat, Crikkett. Kids on the couch watching TV are eerie too, if your vantage point is near the TV.
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Re: peoplestaringatcomputers

Postby crikkett » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:38 am

tazmic wrote:I feel bad lowering the tone of a thread I started, but...

When I was a kid I'd get so engrossed in whatever I was reading that I would sneak in a page or two as I walked between classes. I ran into things too.

It is healthy to be aware of one's surroundings. I was aware that my surroundings sucked and in the book was a much better place to be.
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Re: peoplestaringatcomputers

Postby crikkett » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:40 am

norton ash wrote:
We look like this while reading a book, too, or for that matter while drawing or writing or knitting or sculpting.
The problem is the webcams.


True dat, Crikkett. Kids on the couch watching TV are eerie too, if your vantage point is near the TV.


The problem there may be the TV. :)

On edit, a Boomer friend of mine complained that he attended a show his son's band put on at a local bar and the kids just stood in the audience, gaping at the band. He couldn't figure out why the music didn't move them until I suggested that they were probably trained to do that by watching music videos their entire lives.
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Re: peoplestaringatcomputers

Postby norton ash » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:44 am

The problem IS the TV. Kids look alive seated around a storyteller or watching animals, in front of the box they look like laser-eyed Children of the Damned. Same effect the screen can give a webcam face.
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Re: peoplestaringatcomputers

Postby thurnundtaxis » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:38 pm

Great art project!

I feel like I've just seen a capture of what the gaze of Narcissus must have looked like to the reflecting pool.
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