WikiLeaks Email: Bin Laden’s Corpse Not Dumped at Sea

[wintler2]

Just cos Stratfors Fred Burton believes Osama's corpse wasn't dumped at sea doesn't mean its true. Regardless, this Wikileak will only fuel the Empires opposition in Kabul & Awamiyah. Smartest thing Obama could do would be come up with a corpse, admit they erred (cue concerned look), and ship home to bury with correct muslim rites. That and stopping drone bombings might signal to the muslims that we're not just hyperviolent thieves bent on grinding this murderous crusade for oil(land, water, copper, gas..) down to the last super-armed supertanker. But then we'd have to follow through, accepting less and less, and allowing less-developed nations a larger share of shrinking pie. No no, the next iphone is worth it, lets lower the draft to 13! (newspaper headline from 2020)

[Saurian Tail]

This is now the leading headline on Drudge. It will be interesting to see how it takes off from here.

[Saurian Tail]

Wow ... and now a few minutes later ... headline gone. Fascinating.

[NeonLX]

When they demolished his house they found a couple of Bibles in it.

Did they burn 'em?

[Stephen Morgan]

When they demolished his house they found a couple of Bibles in it.

Did they burn 'em?

The article didn't say. Maybe they threw them off a boat.

I'd think more of the Stratfor lad if he had better network security.

[NeonLX]

Heh-heh.

[Nordic]

Just googled the headline looking for "MSM" versions of this story.

Few and far between, not surprisingly.

Toronto Star! Kudos!

But that's it. I just went through to the bottom of page 5 and found absolutely ZERO "mainstream" reportings of this.

Glad there's a reason to still like Canadians!

[elfismiles]

Daniel W. Drezner: Pssst.... people can BS in private too‎
Foreign Policy (blog) - 8 hours ago
No, this wouldn't be a claim that Osama had returned as a zombie. ... USG to gather forensic evidence, it would seem likely that they would want the body.
http://drezner.foreignpolicy.com/posts/ ... rivate_too

Bin Laden Buried at Sea? Stratfor Emails Cast Doubt on Official Tale‎
The Inquisitr - 30 minutes ago
If you think only conspiracy theorists believe that the body of Osama Bin Laden was spirited away for God knows where instead of being tossed off a military ...
http://www.inquisitr.com/201683/bin-lad ... cial-tale/

Automatically Generated Transcript (may not be 100% accurate)‎
WAAF.com - 3 hours ago
Public allegedly a US government document which indicates that Osama bin Laden's body. Was not buried at -- on. Indicated. By our trusted covered.
http://media.waaf.com/a/52748677/news-s ... 3-6-12.htm

Navy to begin alcohol, drug tests for navy sailors‎
Chicago Tribune - 3 hours ago
Most were discharged from aircraft carriers USS Carl Vinson, best known as the vessel used to dispose of Osama bin Laden's body, and the USS Ronald Reagan.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/sn ... 1407.story

WikiLeaks: Iran “destroyed,” OBL corpse “Dover bound”‎
DigitalJournal.com - 6 hours ago
A second batch of information released in WikiLeaks' new e-mail collection involves the remains of Osama bin Laden's body after the May 2011 raid on his ...
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/320733

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This is nonsense, and a waste of our time to talk about. The govt made an extraordinary claim that they found the world's most wanted fugitive, executed him on the spot, and obliterated the body. Without presenting any evidence, there's no reason to believe this claim and we can assume it didn't happen, until we are offered some evidence.

Wikileaks and Stratfor both contain intelligent people. The fact that neither have questioned this dubious claim, publicly or privately, makes them either lazy, ignorant truth seekers, or otherwise it's reasonable to consider that we are consuming propaganda when we follow this story.

[Nordic]

This is nonsense, and a waste of our time to talk about. The govt made an extraordinary claim that they found the world's most wanted fugitive, executed him on the spot, and obliterated the body. Without presenting any evidence, there's no reason to believe this claim and we can assume it didn't happen, until we are offered some evidence.

Wikileaks and Stratfor both contain intelligent people. The fact that neither have questioned this dubious claim, publicly or privately, makes them either lazy, ignorant truth seekers, or otherwise it's reasonable to consider that we are consuming propaganda when we follow this story.

Well its not necessarily an even/or thing the way you put it. There actually was a flesh and blood fellow named (presumably) Osama bin Laden, and at some point he very likely died. Seeing as how he had health problems that likely killed him, at some point there was an actual body to be dealt with.

From that point on, its anybody's guess. But since OBL was apparently a spook asset of the CIA it seems pretty likely that his body went back to the spook/CIA headquarters, or at least that general vicinity, while the propaganda narrative-meisters decided how best to give the US populance a good mind-fucking.

Thus the story of the "raid" and all that crock of shit. I'm only guessing here, but since the neighbors did report some action at that house that night, a house that we know was right next door to a CIA house, I would say maybe the people who knew of OBL's whereabouts up until his death, perhaps the nurses and drivers and cooks and errand boys who tended to him were perhaps slaughtered that night or possibly rendered to Bagram or someplace similar, where they'll spend the rest of their days (if they indeed have any) in iron masks while inhabiting the black (as in "officially doesn't exist") dungeon.

[Stephen Morgan]

Thus the story of the "raid" and all that crock of shit. I'm only guessing here, but since the neighbors did report some action at that house that night, a house that we know was right next door to a CIA house, I would say maybe the people who knew of OBL's whereabouts up until his death, perhaps the nurses and drivers and cooks and errand boys who tended to him were perhaps slaughtered that night or possibly rendered to Bagram or someplace similar, where they'll spend the rest of their days (if they indeed have any) in iron masks while inhabiting the black (as in "officially doesn't exist") dungeon.

Wasn't one of his wives there? Did anyone interview her? She'll probably be too high profile to disappear immediately and ought to know who else was there.

[elfismiles]

Bin Laden WAS NOT buried at sea, but flown to the U.S. for cremation at secret location, claims intelligence boss in leaked email
* Emails purported to be obtained by hacker group Anonymous dispute White House version of terror leader's final resting place
* Believed to be part of 2.7million emails obtained from intelligence analysis group Stratfor and shared with WikiLeaks
* Stratfor calls hackers 'thieves' and says some emails may have been forged or altered
* Revelations come as FBI arrests key members of hacking group LulzSec, an offshoot of Anonymous
By Thomas Durante
Last updated at 7:52 AM on 7th March 2012
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... eveal.html

[Nordic]

Thus the story of the "raid" and all that crock of shit. I'm only guessing here, but since the neighbors did report some action at that house that night, a house that we know was right next door to a CIA house, I would say maybe the people who knew of OBL's whereabouts up until his death, perhaps the nurses and drivers and cooks and errand boys who tended to him were perhaps slaughtered that night or possibly rendered to Bagram or someplace similar, where they'll spend the rest of their days (if they indeed have any) in iron masks while inhabiting the black (as in "officially doesn't exist") dungeon.

Wasn't one of his wives there? Did anyone interview her? She'll probably be too high profile to disappear immediately and ought to know who else was there.

Well that's what "they" told us, and that was part of their "narrative" so it's probably complete rubbish.

[Stephen Morgan]

Well that's what "they" told us, and that was part of their "narrative" so it's probably complete rubbish.

How would one go about contacting the late arch-nemesis' wife? Come to think of it, which one was it? Might be an avenue for investigation though, if anyone's got the brass.

[Stephen Morgan]

Intrigue a go go:

RAWALPINDI, Pakistan (AP) -- Osama bin Laden spent his last weeks in a house divided, amid wives riven by suspicions. On the top floor, sharing his bedroom, was his youngest wife and favorite. The trouble came when his eldest wife showed up and moved into the bedroom on the floor below.

Others in the family, crammed into the three-story villa compound where bin Laden would eventually be killed in a May 2 U.S. raid, were convinced that the eldest wife intended to betray the al-Qaida leader.

The picture of bin Laden's life in the Abbottabad compound comes from Brig. Shaukat Qadir, a retired Pakistani army officer who spent months researching the events and says he was given rare access to transcripts of Pakistani intelligence's interrogation of bin Laden's youngest wife, who was detained in the raid.

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The compound where bin Laden lived since mid-2005 was a crowded place, with 28 residents - including bin Laden, his three wives, eight of his children and five of his grandchildren. The bin Laden children ranged in age from his 24-year-old son Khaled, who was killed in the raid, to a 3-year-old born during their time in Abbottabad. Bin Laden's courier, the courier's brother and their wives and children also lived in the compound.

The 54-year-old bin Laden himself seemed aged beyond his years, with suspected kidney or stomach diseases, and there were worries over his mental health, Qadir said he was told by ISI officials and an al-Qaida member he interviewed in the border regions.

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Even ISI officials who questioned Khairiah after the raid were daunted by her.

"She is so aggressive that she borders on being intimidating," Qadir said he was told by an ISI interrogator.

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Khairiah fled Afghanistan in 2001 into Iran along with other bin Laden relatives and al-Qaida figures. She and others were held under house arrest in Iran until 2010, when Tehran let them leave in a swap for an Iranian diplomat kidnapped in Pakistan's frontier city of Peshawar.

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Khalid, bin Laden's son with Siham, was suspicious, according to Amal's account. He repeatedly asked Khairiah why she had come. At one point, she told him, "I have one final duty to perform for my husband." Khalid immediately told his father what she had said and warned that she intended to betray him.

Amal, who shared Khalid's fears, said bin Laden was also suspicious but was unconcerned, acting as if fate would decide, according to Qadir's recounting of the interrogation transcript.

There is no evidence Khairiah had any role in bin Laden's end. Accounts by Pakistani and U.S. intelligence officials since the May 2 raid have made no mention of her. Instead, U.S. officials have said the courier inadvertently led the CIA to the Abbottabad villa after they uncovered him in a monitored phone call.

Well, that answers that.