Sounder wrote:Yes and it would be handy dandy for you if there were any Holocaust deniers or Christ killer vocalists here at RI. But as it happens there are only folk justifiably outraged at the murderous expansionist psychopathic Israeli State.
If only there had never been racists working overtime to actively promote their views here on the forum my vigilance in this regard would certainly be less heightened. Sadly, they have been legion. You've been here long enough to know that, I assume. If it never occured to you that this was the situation, let me take this opportunity to inform you that it has been.
I know there are those who consider my outlook and approach to the issue somewhat overdone. I'm glad it comes off that way, as opposed to less than enough. I can live with the former.
I'm not sure that "handy dandy" is exactly the adjective I'd choose in any case. Every encounter with the thing you propose might be handy dandy is actually painful and embarrassing for me.
Of course you would prefer to talk about issues that do not point toward the sickness within the psyches that support this murderous regime. It’s always the other people that are sick, like those folk who are liked by deniers and Christ-killer vocalists, those are the sick people.
To be perfectly frank, my antipathy towards the Israeli state has actually lessened a bit since I began reading here, for while I still detest its apartheid nature, prison camp mentality, deadly military, and the many horrors and injustices it has visited upon the Palestinians, I've come to the conclusion that Israel is in most aspects little different from my own country. And while I revile the hateful actions of my own country, and spend no little time wondering how to change that, I also have a love of my country and especially my larger neighborhood that comes from the comfort of familiarity, and from being born of this place. It's a fondness which seemingly cannot be dispelled by the either crimes of my government, awareness of the colonialist history of the annexation of the property I live on, or the ignorance of many of the people here, an ignorance which at times appears both inexhaustible and growing. It's hard to explain: if I were of perfect conscience maybe I should give my home to an indigenous family and go live in a place where no one has suffered as a result of the actions of the U.S. state. If I am a lesser person for not doing so, so be it.
I can't see much justification in anyone really complaining about my smallish forays against words that I perceive to be anti-semitic, though. If my grumblings about the matter are annoying to you, take solace that it is merely the annoyance of the persistent gnat. There are literally hundreds, maybe thousands of threads in General Discussion highlighting in detail the various crimes and suspected machinations of the Israelis, so it's not as if I've in some way curtailed the group expression of vehement anti-fascism with regard to the state of Israel. I have not and have never meant to, or really would want to. If you find I don't talk about it much, perhaps its because many of my words on the subject usually seem to me to be already well taken by the posters for whom Israel rests among their central concerns.
If ‘those’ people like you then you must be sick. That’s the ticket, racists listen to Gilad therefore anti-racists must ignore him. This either/or thinge sure is awesome.
I have read a variety of Mr. Atzmon's writings which I have no problem with. Alice had posted his "Primacy of the Ear" essay here once before, and that thread wasn't locked or censured for "sickness". On the contrary, her reposting of it was met with enthusiasm. It's possible to contain both love and hate within a single person, you know, to contain greatly admirable qualities right alongside defects of the soul. More than possible, I guess - it's entirely human.






