Greek election thread (June 17)

[undead]

On the other hand, Greece at least will have an authentic party of opposition sitting across from the government. I can only too well imagine how discouraging it is when both major parties sign off on the same neoliberal austerity. PASOK earned its place in the dustbin and I hope it stays there. (Though naturally it'll help the right fill out the ranks in the forthcoming government of "national salvation.")

This is not a surprising outcome. It became evident after Syriza pulled ahead of PASOK in the last election that they really don't have any kind of plan for leaving the Eurozone. Maybe now that they have so many seats they will think of something substantial. Unfortunately this country doesn't have the economic base to be independent right now, so all of the protesting and rhetoric about leaving the Euro is just a childish temper tantrum.

One main factor is that Greeks have become accustomed to a lifestyle that is more affluent than that of other Balkan countries and they do not want to give that up. The problem is that Euro or no Euro this is not going to continue, and the fantasy of continuing it will lead the country into the clutches of the transnational banking cartel. Yes, theoretically there are many things that could be done if Greece left the Euro, but even the people on the left who are so vociferously calling for an exit are not prepared to make the necessary sacrifices.

[seemslikeadream]

[semper occultus]

Now kindly die.

That was a bit strong.

....not pleasant & can we add hypocritical....Jack didn't you rather object to someone ( whom I won't dignify with a link ) making on-line postings calling for your demise once...?

[JackRiddler]

Now kindly die.

That was a bit strong.

....not pleasant & can we add hypocritical....Jack didn't you rather object to someone ( whom I won't dignify with a link ) making on-line postings calling for your demise once...?

Not sure which case you mean. One case I remember (off this site) was my objecting to someone calling for violence on my person, and describing in detail exactly what should be done to me. I don't believe my choice of phrase to express disgust with Sepka, obviously not a physical threat, is comparable.

You should find it highly objectionable when Sepka makes up bullshit and trash talks Greeks as morons. Imagine reading this:

Obama is personally popular, and seems to be campaigning more on that than on his party's positions. Because the rules in an American hockey playoff game require the voter to sound a high note on a xylophone rather than use a cell phone (why, I do not know) I'm expecting a great many black people to text "Obama" to the Board of Elections, rather than actually go into the voting booth.

Sepka's comment about Greece was about as true and about as defamatory.

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[undead]

Sepka is a classic troll with nothing useful or positive to offer, for those reading who are not familiar with his annoying schtick. In this case he found an issue that some people clearly care about and thought he would try to push some buttons. In these situations it is best just to ignore the offending comments.