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Postby wintler2 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:18 pm

WikiLeaks preferences. WikiLeaks created a storm when it preferenced right-wing parties ahead of the Greens, a move that may cost Greens Senator (and the 43rd Parliament’s staunchest defender of Julian Assange) Scott Ludlam his seat. This tip comes from an anonymous source, so make of it what you will:

“There were two sides inside the party arguing for two different strategies on preferences. One wanted to order parties purely according to principle, which would have seen the Greens high up, and the other was working with an assortment of micro-right and Left parties each aiding each other in different states. This involved putting parties like the Greens and Labor behind parties like the Nationals, Shooters and Fishers, Australia First etc. Ultimately the latter side, who lodged the Group Voting Tickets, was successful.

However — there was majority support for doing a deal with the Greens up until about a week ago when senior Greens across in the country, but most noticeably a high-profile Greens media adviser in NSW, decided that they would launch a public assault on the party and pre-empt any decisions of WikiLeaks by publicly throwing around accusations of a deal with One Nation. Whatever chance there was of a deal died then, with many in WikiLeaks convinced the Greens were too aggressive and disingenuous in their negotiations by taking them public. Those same people are now lambasting WikiLeaks for the decision that was made as a result of their actions in the first place!”

Sure, great decision. If you want to elect a Nat instead of a Green because you care about privacy of information and the public’s right to know, vote WikiLeaks. ..

http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/08/21/tip ... mours-948/


On that spin, its down to a fundy vs. realist conflict within WP that was decided for the latter by Greens spoiling action. I can't believe there was enough support within WP for preferencing authoritarian rightwing nutters no matter what some Green said.
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Re: Welcome to WikiLeaks Party News

Postby wintler2 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:27 pm

WikiLeaks' campaign for Senate implodes

The WikiLeaks Senate campaign launched by party founder Julian Assange is in crisis after the shock resignations of two of its most prominent members, and reports of other campaign staff and council members resigning.

In damning resignation statements late on Wednesday, the party’s number two Senate candidate in Victoria, ethicist Leslie Cannold, and a member of the party’s National Council, Daniel Mathews, lashed out at what they said was mishandling of preference decisions by the party.
Leslie Cannold.

Dr Mathews, who described himself as a friend since university days of Mr Assange, said the decision had pained him but "I am afraid that my experiences with this party are not all positive".

He said the preference bungle had caused a "catastrophic loss to the party".

Three other WikiLeaks council members, Sam Castro, Kaz Cochrane and Luke Pearson and three campaign staff were also resigning late on Wednesday. Dr Cannold tweeted that there had been "5 more #wikileaksparty resignations" in addition to Dr Mathews’. Ms Castro told Fairfax Media she and other members of the WikiLeaks Australian Citizens Alliance had tried for two hours to get a call through to Mr Assange in London on Wednesday evening, and had also tried unsuccessfully to convene a crisis meeting of the Council.

Alison Broinowski, a former diplomat who is number two on WikiLeaks’ Senate ticket in NSW, says she is considering her position following the resignations. But Dr Broinowski said she "didn’t like taking things on and giving them up" without a very serious reason to do so.

She said she would meet her NSW running mate, human rights activist Kellie Tranter, on Thursday to review the facts before deciding her next move.

"There are a number of different people involved so there are different explanations and justifications for what occurred, but this is not what I joined the party for," Dr Broinowski said.

"I don’t think the preference issue matters fundamentally."

In her statement Dr Cannold said the party’s national council had resolved to have an "independent review" of an administrative "error" in preference allocation that had led to WikiLeaks preferencing the Shooters and Fishers Party and the Australia First party ahead of the Greens in NSW, and the Nationals ahead of the Greens in WA.

Dr Cannold claimed she had learnt that a party member was allegedly subverting the decision of the council about the review, and she no longer had faith in the organisation’s ability to operate according to principles of "democracy, transparency and accountability".

Dr Mathews gave a similar account, saying he was resigning because "the recent fiasco over Senate preferences ... caused a catastrophic loss to the party’’ and that the review agreed on had been "immediately undermined".

As the No. 2 on the party’s Victorian Senate ticket, Dr Cannold had been slated to take the place of the party’s lead candidate, Mr Assange, should he have been elected and unable to physically take his seat.

WikiLeaks campaign adviser Greg Barns said the party would deal with "governance issues" after the election, but denied that Dr Cannold’s resignation had dealt a body blow to its Senate campaign.

"I note she is not the only member of a political party in this campaign who has decided to resign or has been sacked" he said.

Dr Mathew’s statement painted a picture of a council torn between pragmatism and principle, as members agonised over whether to do preference deals with right-wing parties on the Christian right, the Shooters and Fishers and ultranationalist Australia First in Western Australia.

Dr Mathews is particularly outraged by Wikileaks preferencing of Australia First over Greens senator Scott Ludlam in WA.

He said Mr Assange should have known that "the perceived betrayal of Scott is precisely one of the factors causing members, volunteers, coordinators and now National Council members to desert the party."

He said a statement from Mr Assange stating that preferencing decisions had been left to candidates in each state was "in flagrant contradiction of everything that had been happening within the party."

In a blistering statement, Ms Cannold said she could not remain as a candidate because to do so would be implicitly making a statement that the WikiLeaks Party was what it claimed to be - "a democratically run party that both believes in transparency and accountability, and operates in this way".

"Over the last few weeks those of us resigning and some others have been struggling to make this true," she said.

"Over the course of the vigorous debates that have taken place over preferences there have been consistent challenges to the rights of the National Council, the 11 person democratic governing body of the WikiLeaks Party, to do its job: to make democratic, transparent and accountable decisions.

Since June when I joined the campaign, I have been concerned that where disagreement exists with decisions Council makes, these have been white-anted and resisted, forcing Council to reaffirm these decisions and assert their right to make them.

"At one point, there was a direct challenge to the Council's democratic right to decide and implement decisions about preference and instead proposed that it become a rubber stamp. This was rejected by Council."
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politi ... 2sbqc.html


Note that WP campaign director Greg 'what problem?' Barns is a former Tory/Liberal party staffer.
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Re: Welcome to WikiLeaks Party News

Postby justdrew » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:09 pm

WikiLeaks supporters were outraged after the party chose to give the far-right Australia First party run by a neo-Nazi and the pro-guns lobby their votes over the left-wing Greens.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/21/wikileaks-party-in-crisis-over-lack-of-transparency-and-support-for-far-right-politicians/


in combination with his kind words for Matt fucking Drudge the other week and I begin to think: maybe Emory had his number all along.
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Re: Welcome to WikiLeaks Party News

Postby wintler2 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:32 pm

justdrew » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:09 pm wrote:
WikiLeaks supporters were outraged after the party chose to give the far-right Australia First party run by a neo-Nazi and the pro-guns lobby their votes over the left-wing Greens.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/21/wikileaks-party-in-crisis-over-lack-of-transparency-and-support-for-far-right-politicians/


in combination with his kind words for Matt fucking Drudge the other week and I begin to think: maybe Emory had his number all along.


Except theres Wikileaks: Julius Baers elite taxdodgers, Collatoral Damage video proving US soldiers as everyday unprosecuted war criminals, Iraq & Afghanistan war logs proving military hiding mass civilian deaths, Mubarak & Gadafi family corruption revelations feeding unrest & revolution, HBGary & Palantir corp-state fuckery exposure, US State Dept Cables proving diplomatic whoring & extortion for transnational corporate profit ...

Thats more than all the 'free & open media' of the west can claim in decades. Nobody should be surprised the Aus Wikileaks Party is subverted, think of the number of wikileaks 'insiders' who have gone mainstream & got book deals & corp media blowjobs just for claiming that assange is mean to cats & doesn't wash enough.
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Re: Welcome to WikiLeaks Party News

Postby justdrew » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:41 pm

wintler2 » 22 Aug 2013 16:32 wrote:
justdrew » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:09 pm wrote:
WikiLeaks supporters were outraged after the party chose to give the far-right Australia First party run by a neo-Nazi and the pro-guns lobby their votes over the left-wing Greens.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/21/wikileaks-party-in-crisis-over-lack-of-transparency-and-support-for-far-right-politicians/


in combination with his kind words for Matt fucking Drudge the other week and I begin to think: maybe Emory had his number all along.


Except theres Wikileaks: Julius Baers elite taxdodgers, Collatoral Damage video proving US soldiers as everyday unprosecuted war criminals, Iraq & Afghanistan war logs proving military hiding mass civilian deaths, Mubarak & Gadafi family corruption revelations feeding unrest & revolution, HBGary & Palantir corp-state fuckery exposure, US State Dept Cables proving diplomatic whoring & extortion for transnational corporate profit ...

Thats more than all the 'free & open media' of the west can claim in decades. Nobody should be surprised the Aus Wikileaks Party is subverted, think of the number of wikileaks 'insiders' who have gone mainstream & got book deals & corp media blowjobs just for claiming that assange is mean to cats & doesn't wash enough.


true. still, sometimes the right things can be done for the wrong reasons. We'll see what happens with this Australia First party thing. I'm still on wikileaks side, but remain "slightly cautious"
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Postby wintler2 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:33 am

Update re WP in runup to election (less than 3 weeks away): No change to preferences AFAIK. No official 'this is whats happened' comms to members.

And now the farce gets amateurish- somebody sent out 'please volunteer' email with 500 public addresses on it, 20 morons replied to all saying 'WTF!? take me off blah blah..' and several other morons have started spamming all with their pet cause. Like the Good Soldier Svejk, its impossible to tell stupidity from sabotage. on edit- its now turned hilarious, the more uptight types are having conniptions while others are calling the complainers 'splitters!' and advising magical remedies for their email woes. Some days i think trolling may be our last best hope, obi wan.
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Re: Welcome to WikiLeaks Party News

Postby wintler2 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:57 pm

Revealed: Assange knee-deep in failed WikiLeaks preference deals
[no link, crikey subscriber email, leaked emails below in full]

ANDREW CROOK
Crikey senior journalist
A damning internal email trail from inside the WikiLeaks Party has revealed that Ecuadorian Embassy recluse Julian Assange was intimately involved in the Senate preference debacle that led to the party's implosion.

Leaked emails sent by Assange and obtained by Crikey lay bare the internal war that consumed the transparency advocates and show how the self-described "president" and "party leader" tried to railroad democratic processes and impose the will of a small clique of acolytes. There is no WikiLeaks leader or president -- under its constitution the party is controlled by an 11-member council.

Under the subject line "NC micromanagement of preferences", Assange, the lead Victorian Senate candidate, slammed the council and suggested it should become a rubber stamp for decisions taken by individual candidates:

"I am receiving unhappy sounds from the NC micromanaging preferences. I agree with that. I am unhappy about it too. The people with the most information, motivation and responsibility are the Candidates and their campaign teams. I have a fully booked schedule and do not have time to attend snap NC preference meetings. I know that the NC is well motivated and wants to help, but it is not helping."

"Preference negotiations are the single most important factor now in winning the campain [sic] and are extremely dynammic [sic]. Bar a raid on the embassy, we will not win without them. A great deal of time is being spent on it. At any moment there may need to be a re-adjustment based on a party removing a proposal to us or a new party stepping forward. This may then require adjustment of other preference agreements."

Assange then goes on to propose:

"... that I assess the proposed final negitotiations secured by the Candidates and their teams to ensure that none of our Canadidtates [sic] or their negotiators has at the last moment has become a stalking horse for another party or would be a PR disaster (the latter is unlikely because our Candidates want to win)."

WikiLeaks activist Samantha Castro, who has since stepped down from the national council, responded in savage fashion, calling the missive "bullshit":

"This plan sounds undemocratic and disrespectful to the national council of which I thought Julian was an equal member not the a person who could override choices by issuing statements from afar while not attending any meetings (bar one that I am aware of) The council is trying to ensure the values of the party are not trodden on in pursuit of deals that have NOT been shown in any real way to clearly benefit us and instead completely compromise our values and risk alienating our base. This is bullshit."

In the days leading up to the decision, Crikey showed how WikiLeaks could conceivably cut a deal with the micro-Right to improve Assange's chances in Victoria, but this tactic wasn't pursued. Instead, when group voting tickets were released two weeks ago, the party nonsensically preferenced WA Nationals candidate and former West Coast Eagles goal sneak David Wirrpanda ahead of the Greens' Scott Ludlam in Western Australia, potentially denying the staunch Assange supporter victory. In New South Wales, WikiLeaks bizarrely went to the redneck Shooters and Fishers Party and the extremist anti-immigrant Australia First Party ahead of the Greens, Labor and the Coalition.

A marathon 12-hour meeting on the day before preferences were due to be lodged concluded with an official directive from campaign director Greg Barns, but in WA and NSW this was ignored. In a statement released after the snafu, the party blamed the mix-up on administrative errors and said it "unreservedly acknowledges that the errors made in GVTs have angered many supporters and members and the Party apologises for those errors."

Dissidents who have since quit the party say the tilt towards unilateral decision-making and the ossification of control around Assange, his biological father, John Shipton, and Barns left them devastated.

Yesterday, Crikey uploaded the swingeing resignation statement of volunteer co-ordinator David Haidon. Last week, former national councillor and former Assange uni mate Daniel Mathews posted a detailed account of why he had left the party he loved, with the preference debacle the final straw. Social media co-ordinator Sean Bedlam jumped ship, saying in this emotional YouTube video the party "has to die and can't be allowed to continue". Victorian Senate candidate Leslie Cannold quit, explaining on ABC News Breakfast how WikiLeaks' founding principles of openness and democracy were betrayed. And national councillors Luke Pearson and Kaz Cochrane also resigned.

An earlier Assange email under the heading "CANDIDATE TASKING" shows his level of micromanagement of technical tasks:

"I require (as President) TWO people assigned to candidate registration tasks in each state for each candidate. There are only days in it and we're dead in the water if there is a single mistake."

In an interview with the ABC after the shit hit the fan, Assange twice claimed to be "party leader" and said couldn't rescue the problems in Australia because he was too busy "saving a young man's [Bradley -- now Chelsea -- Manning's] life."




The leaked emails referred to above, posted at @
http://media.crikey.com.au/wp-content/u ... From21.pdf
From: JA Legal
Subject: Urgent: candidate registration tasking
Date: 7 August 2013 5:30:14 PM AEST
To: Cassie Findlay
Cc: Kellie Tranter Gerry Georgatos, sarah saunders, Gail Malone, Leslie Cannold. Alison
Broinowski, Greg Barns <republicone@xxxxxxxx>, "samcastro@xxxxxxx,
"suresh@xxxxxx", "bkampmark@xxxxxxx "kazcochrane@xxxxxxx", "natalie@xxxxxxxx",
"illodius@xxxxxx", "jshipton@xxxxxxx"
CANDIDATE TASKING
I require (as President) TWO people assigned to candidate registration
tasks in each state for each candidate. There are only days in it and
we're dead in the water if there is a single mistake. One assinged
person (the candidate) and one deputy. First candidate (with the
exception of me, obviously) in each state, leads, and designates the
deputy. Deputy to double check his/her candidates work and take over if
the candidate falls ill. Other candidates to make sure they are in the
loop by contacting the first candidate and giving the name of their own
deputy (in case they also suddenly indisposed). Lead canditate
and deputy in each state to make sure they have contact details and are
aware of the progress of ALL other candidates AND deputies within their
state. All candidates & deputies to have Kellie Tranter's contact
details for emergency consultation on the law and Greg's for status
updates.
For Vic, my role in the above to be performed by Leslie Cannold.
Each candidate/deputy to report status on candidate developments to
state lead candidate, their deputy, Greg, Kellie and me.
JA
From: JA Legal
Subject: Urgent: candidate registration tasking
Date: 7 August 2013 5:30:14 PM AEST
To: Cassie Findlay
Cc: Kellie Tranter, Gerry Georgatos, sarah saunders, Gail Malone, Leslie Cannold, Alison
Broinowski, Greg Barns " <samcastro@xxxxx>, "suresh@xxxxx" <suresh@xxxxx>,
"bkampmark@xxxxxx" <bkampmark@xxxxxx>, "kazcochrane@xxxxx"
<natalie@xxxxxxxx>, <illodius@xxxxxxx>, "jshipton@xxxxxx>
CANDIDATE TASKING
I require (as President) TWO people assigned to candidate registration
tasks in each state for each candidate. There are only days in it and
we're dead in the water if there is a single mistake. One assinged
person (the candidate) and one deputy. First candidate (with the
exception of me, obviously) in each state, leads, and designates the
deputy. Deputy to double check his/her candidates work and take over if
the candidate falls ill. Other candidates to make sure they are in the
loop by contacting the first candidate and giving the name of their own
deputy (in case they also suddenly indisposed). Lead canditate
and deputy in each state to make sure they have contact details and are
aware of the progress of ALL other candidates AND deputies within their
state. All candidates & deputies to have Kellie Tranter's contact
details for emergency consultation on the law and Greg's for status
updates.
For Vic, my role in the above to be performed by Leslie Cannold.
Each candidate/deputy to report status on candidate developments to
state lead candidate, their deputy, Greg, Kellie and me.
JA
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: NC micromanagement of preferences
From: "JA Legal"
Date: Mon, August 12, 2013 8:22 pm
To: "Cassie Findlay"
Cc: "John Shipton"
Sam Castro
"Kaz Cochrane"
"omar todd"
"Niraj Lal"
"Gail Malone"
"Daniel Mathews"
"Luke Pearson"
"Kellie Tranter"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am receiving unhappy sounds from the NC micromanaging preferences. I
agree with that. I am unhappy about it too.
The people with the most information, motivation and responsibility are
the Candidates and their campaign teams.
I have a fully booked schedule and do not have time to attend snap NC
preference meetings. I know that the NC is well motivated and
wants to help, but it is not helping.
Preference negotiations are the single most important factor
now in winning the campain and are extremely dynammic. Bar a raid on
the embassy, we will not win without them. A great deal of time is being
spent on it. At any moment there may need to be a re-adjustment based
on a party removing a proposal to us or a new party stepping forward.
This may then require adjustment of other preference agreements.
--
Samantha Castro
Wikileaks Australian Citizens Alliance
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Subject:
NC micromanagement of preferences
From: "Cassie Findlay"
Date: Tue, August 13, 2013 6:56 am
To: "JA Legal"
Cc: "John Shipton" (more)
Priority:
Normal
This plan works for me. The final ratification would take place on Friday I
think. I'll double check that
CF
Subject:
Re: NC micromanagement of preferences
From: Sam Castro
Date: Tue, August 13, 2013 7:37 am
To: "Cassie Findlay"
Cc: "JA Legal" (more)
Priority:
Normal
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This plan sounds undemocratic and disrespectful to the national council of
which I thought Julian was an equal member not the a person who could
override choices by issuing statements from afar while not attending any
meetings (bar one that I am aware of)
The council is trying to ensure the values of the party are not trodden on
in pursuit of deals that have NOT been shown in any real way to clearly
benefit us and instead completely compromise our values and risk
alienating our base
This is bullshit
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Greg Barns
Date: 16 August 2013 20:16
Subject: RE: NC meeting Friday 16/8/13 10:30am
To: Cassie Findlay, JA Legal John Shipton, Kaz Cochrane omar todd Daniel Mathews Niraj
Lal Gail Malone, Luke Pearson <samcastro > , Kellie Tranter
Cc: sarah saunders
Dear All
We have been unsuccessful in having Greens accept Shooters in NSW and FF in Victoria.
I would have preferred to have had Shooters and FF in the mix but the final deals are:
Victoria - Greens put WLP at number 2 and WLP has Greens first of majors and drops
Shooters and FF/Christian groups below majors.
NSW – Greens preference WLP at 3, with Pirates at 2, and WLP puts Greens above FF,
Shooters and Christian Right.
WA – Greens preference WLP at 2 and WLP puts Greens first of major parties and above
Christian right and Shooters.
The Shooters and some parties on the right will probably put WLP below the majors as
a result of these deals.
We need now to move to tweet and Facebook these lines:
By all means vote Greens in the Reps but vote WLP in the Senate.
WLP doesn’t do deals with the Coalition and ALP - we respect the rights of asylum
seekers.
etc
Greg Barns
Barrister
Salamanca Chambers Hobart
Stawell Chambers Melbourne



Preferencing clusterfuck seems less dramatic than first appeared, favouring the loony right parties was contemplated on pragmatic/cynic grounds but discarded as policy, went ahead in NSW & WA only & only due to some unspecified error.

That the Assange-Shipton-Barnes clique are behaving undemocratically, trying to go around the 11member national council seems more clearly established & is definately problematic, though not evil incarnate. Castro & Bedlam, apart from being an amusing combination of names, are members of my diffuse network/faction of Melb duck squeezers and so i'm inclined to believe their "something rotten.." spin and wont be volunteering for them on election day.
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Re: Welcome to WikiLeaks Party News

Postby smiths » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:10 am

the most unbelievable bit was that they thought that none of their supporters would notice or care who they preferenced,
this strikes me as almost beyond belief,

reminds me a bit of Lenin and the socialists ... I thought we were democrats they stammered, fuck that said Lenin, my party, my rules,
and any means can be justified to reach the all important ends
the question is why, who, why, what, why, when, why and why again?
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