I really can't argue whether or not there was a genuine popular uprising initially in Syria which was co-opted, as I wasn't there.
If there was, we'd have to assume that it was not in any state interests to support it, and it would be ignored by the media, and erased from the mainstream historical narrative. That would be a shame, though unsurprising. But anyway, that as we say, is that.
Sounder » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:51 am wrote:dada wrote...
It is nice to imagine that we could indoctrinate freedom and equality through propagandizing a different narrative. However, that kind of goes against the whole nature of freedom and equality, if you think about it.
Ah, but you can. Any framework for understanding indoctrinates one way or another. While our current split model of reality 'propagandizes' that reality is made up of objects, and that 'success' is measured by ones ability to manipulate those objects, we may still create a model that recognizes that reality is made of relationships, not objects. Only then will we become able to give substance to ideas like freedom and equality.
I can, sure. The question is, can one indoctrinate others in this way. To me, freedom and equality would imply an absence of indoctrination, no coercion from the outside.
Self-indoctrination would be a sort of negative-indoctrination. Maybe to put it better: If self-propagandizing is self-programming, this would be self-
deprogramming. But doing it for yourself is one thing. De-programming others isn't possible, in my experience. No one changes until they're ready to change themselves.
So we must rely on freedom and equality indoctrination and propaganda. Is that real freedom and equality? Wouldn't people indoctrinated this way be easily manipulated? We'd have to have coca-cola sized advertising budgets to keep the people "free." Doesn't seem economical. Or like true freedom.