Nordic » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:03 pm wrote:Why are you feeling that way? I try to inspect all the Psyops bullshit in the media especially the stuff that happens at oh-so-convenient times as to justify military action/spending/killing.
That's what we do here, why should that bother you? If I knew it was real I wouldn't watch it. But I wanted to see if it was fake and honestly I'm really surprised at how dubious it is, and equally surprised at how many people are simply accepting it as something real. B
See, that's what amazes me, is how people can watch modern day movies and tv shows where such things are portrayed and we know they're fake (like Game of Thrones) yet when we are shown something that isn't done convincingly at all, but we're told by authority figures in advance that it's real, people tend to believe it!
It amazes me, how this works. It's like a parlor game, a trick. "I'm going to show you _______" said in advance makes such a difference in perception.
It reminds me of the "Fat Osama" video, which is equally dubious, but which had the result of millions of people thinking they had witnessed OBL confessing to 911.
I guess it just hurts my feelings when people knowingly watch real footage of others being grusomely murdered. Whether it's faked or not. I guess I'm glad someone here is analyzing it, and I hope it's faked, but still.
But then, who am I to talk? I just watched grusomely violent "Snowpiercer" a few days ago, only a year or so after swearing off violent movies. Pot calling the kettle black, I guess.
MayDay » Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:37 pm wrote:I guess it just hurts my feelings when people knowingly watch real footage of others being grusomely murdered. Whether it's faked or not. I guess I'm glad someone here is analyzing it, and I hope it's faked, but still.
But then, who am I to talk? I just watched grusomely violent "Snowpiercer" a few days ago, only a year or so after swearing off violent movies. Pot calling the kettle black, I guess.
Yea I can't watch that stuff either, I don't want those things in my head.
But I'm glad that at least some discerning people out there are giving them a proper analysis.
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Metric Pringle » 20 Aug 2014 16:09 wrote:I also am not convince by the tape's authenticity. Due to that other beheading video which seems to be an obvious fake (I can't remember the name), I decided to have a look. There is absolutely no blood whatsoever when the knife starts to cut his throat, and cuts after a little but to the dead body and decapitated head. Considering all the other extremely violent and uncensored ISIS videos that were doing the rounds, I find it very suspicious that this one is so censored. Surely their aim is to shock, why take away the most shocking moment. Strange.
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Haven't seen any of the replies, literally just clicked on the thread but my first thought just from the still images (I refuse to watch the video)
Ok well just from the two still images CNN and NBC are using, WOW. There's is something eerily staged about them. It's almost as if Foley is smiling and wants to die. It's so freaking creepy. I have no doubt he is really killed, but the whole thing looks very Hollywood. I believe this is the black lodge rising the next level of movie like wtf in this current aeon
Get back...John Doe has the upper hand now...
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Funny, that Nick Berg. It was the first post 9/11 conspiracy theory I remember online being heavily debated. Long before reddit. It came RIGHT when the fallout over the horrible Abu Gharib images and information came to light. According to even just the mainstream news, both Nick Berg and Paul Wellstone's doomed flight co-pilot each had their email logins and software on 20th hijacker Zacharius Moussoui's laptop. Nick Berg had been seen with Moussaoui, his cohort and Melvin Lattimore at these commons apartments for Oklahoma University(Lattimore AKA Mujahid Manepta was also seen around Tim Mcveigh in 1995 at the Dreamland Motel and had his credit card apparently used by Ramzi Yousef in the WTC 1993 attack) Even Nick Berg's dad mentioned he had met with Moussaoi. The younger co pilot of Paul Wellstones ill fated flight had also known Moussaoui around the same time, and gave him some sort of software which was also found. Berg worked at the OKU library where some of the 9/11 tickets were purchased.
The rabbit hole and converging layers is quite deep.
Nordic » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:03 pm wrote:Why are you feeling that way? I try to inspect all the Psyops bullshit in the media especially the stuff that happens at oh-so-convenient times as to justify military action/spending/killing.
That's what we do here, why should that bother you? If I knew it was real I wouldn't watch it. But I wanted to see if it was fake and honestly I'm really surprised at how dubious it is, and equally surprised at how many people are simply accepting it as something real. B
See, that's what amazes me, is how people can watch modern day movies and tv shows where such things are portrayed and we know they're fake (like Game of Thrones) yet when we are shown something that isn't done convincingly at all, but we're told by authority figures in advance that it's real, people tend to believe it!
It amazes me, how this works. It's like a parlor game, a trick. "I'm going to show you _______" said in advance makes such a difference in perception.
It reminds me of the "Fat Osama" video, which is equally dubious, but which had the result of millions of people thinking they had witnessed OBL confessing to 911.
I guess it just hurts my feelings when people knowingly watch real footage of others being grusomely murdered. Whether it's faked or not. I guess I'm glad someone here is analyzing it, and I hope it's faked, but still.
But then, who am I to talk? I just watched grusomely violent "Snowpiercer" a few days ago, only a year or so after swearing off violent movies. Pot calling the kettle black, I guess.
1. Hey I'm with ya, I didn't watch the Nick Berg video and won't watch this. I'm just going by the stills released by the media and the pre attack scenes which do have a strange eerie hollywoodness about them
2. How is Snowpiercer? I love dystopic futuristic thrillers but it only played a few days here.
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8bitagent » Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:25 am wrote:Haven't seen any of the replies, literally just clicked on the thread but my first thought just from the still images (I refuse to watch the video)
Ok well just from the two still images CNN and NBC are using, WOW. There's is something eerily staged about them. It's almost as if Foley is smiling and wants to die. It's so freaking creepy. I have no doubt he is really killed, but the whole thing looks very Hollywood. I believe this is the black lodge rising the next level of movie like wtf in this current aeon
Get back...John Doe has the upper hand now...
Why do you say "I have no doubt he was really killed"?
I ask because you should foubt everything you see and hear these days, especially heavy Psyops stuff that will be used as a reason to kill countless more thousands of people and make fortunes doing it.
Doubt all of it.
The lying has been particularly brazen lately, from "Putin shot down that airline" to "terror tunnels leading to Israeli kindergartens".
It's like we've hit Peak Lie.
And we're living in a time when damn near anything can be faked. Anything. And the fact that this isn't even a good fake, well, I would seriously doubt that this guy was killed at all.
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8bitagent » Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:25 am wrote:Haven't seen any of the replies, literally just clicked on the thread but my first thought just from the still images (I refuse to watch the video)
Ok well just from the two still images CNN and NBC are using, WOW. There's is something eerily staged about them. It's almost as if Foley is smiling and wants to die. It's so freaking creepy. I have no doubt he is really killed, but the whole thing looks very Hollywood. I believe this is the black lodge rising the next level of movie like wtf in this current aeon
Get back...John Doe has the upper hand now...
Why do you say "I have no doubt he was really killed"?
I ask because you should foubt everything you see and hear these days, especially heavy Psyops stuff that will be used as a reason to kill countless more thousands of people and make fortunes doing it.
Doubt all of it.
The lying has been particularly brazen lately, from "Putin shot down that airline" to "terror tunnels leading to Israeli kindergartens".
It's like we've hit Peak Lie.
And we're living in a time when damn near anything can be faked. Anything. And the fact that this isn't even a good fake, well, I would seriously doubt that this guy was killed at all.
I AGREE Nordic:)
Just weary after all the Sandy Hook/Boston/Batman shooting cries of "HOAX!" and "Crisis Actors". But yeah this seems weird/fishy as hell Nordic.
I wrote and posted that immediately after seeing the CNN and NBC news story and video, which showed blurred video of Isis with heads on pikes and mass executions. So I was under the assumption it was just part of business as usual.
However some news outlets are showing the video right before the apparent knife is put to him, and yeah this is just so eerily...weird. Again it really makes me think of those scenes from Se7en, almost shot for shot in some scenes.I'm rethinking what I typed Nordic though, just from reading the description of the whole video and even Obama's use of the word "apparent". I see that word "apparently". The video "appears". No body.
The whole spectacle definitely has a movie like vibe to it. You make a darn good point tho...either Foley is under some sort of hypnosis or drugs, he's become a brainwashed jihadi who wants to die or something even weirder is going on. I guess I meant I have no doubt of ISIS ruthlessness, I don't think that aspect to them is staged. But this cryptic video, which is unusually clear and audible compared to most of these big news event jihadi videos, has a whole different feel. One might have to wonder...what would be the point of ISIS keeping him alive. But perhaps, like Nick Berg, there is more to this man than we are to be believed...or at least, he represents a lot. One has to wonder too, the chain of events and chain of custody of how he ended up two years later to this video? We're now told the US used its more "elite of the elite" spec forces, over two dozen, boots on the ground IN Syria for the first time this year to rescue him which didn't net Foley or other captors. Can't help this is all swirling to a strange new narrative.
1. The vibe and message of the video, seen and unseen 2. The focus on the "Apparent Briton executioner" 3. The MESSAGE. Duck in a noose? 4. The swift rise of Isis, which almost feels scripted 5. The news of "US elite forces went into Syria to try and rescue Foley"
One has to wonder, what is the true purpose and what is next?
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“The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.” ― Joan Robinson
. Those who wish to terrorize us don't even have to take the risk of really capturing and beheading someone anymore, they can fake it.
The final mistake of the media was to do no fact finding, or probing, before it released the videos as real. In the video Ben clearly states his name and address (this was done intentionally so that the video would be found to be a hoax immediately). If the reporter at that time searched for Ben's name on the Internet, he would have immediately found Ben's campaign website which features pictures of Ben and full contact information. A 20 minute drive could have cleared up the situation immediately. The press however, had to have their "scoop".Media organizations are increasingly relying upon sensationalism rather than a code of ethics of journalism. We must ask ourself the question, are we susceptable to another William Randolph Hearst ("Remember the Maine!")? Our media is getting homogenized when individual papers and networks stop doing their own investigations and rely upon one or two sources, frequently Associated Press and Reuters. This is another case of the media being caught with its pants down because it failed to find complete physical evidence before breaking a story, and they are attempting to shift the blame from themselves and onto us.
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