Russian ambassador to Turkey shot and killed

[tapitsbo]

To be fair though, lots of "moderate" islamist militants say syria should be part of a new ottoman empire.

[Harvey]

Show me (us) where SLAD posts bullshit, Harvey. I would love to see it. Also, don't be mean. I am sick of it. Understand that someone on the other end of the line is a person too. She has been on "the line" for a long time here. I don't understand why people have to needle one another in any facet of life, obviously including the Internet.

"CIA says Russia interfered with American elections." I pointed out the irony on day one last month, several of us have been pointing out the bullshit.

I wasn't being mean, I was simply pointing out that this is entirely an escalation of the same strategy, probably the same players. It's beginning. Interpret this as meanness if it helps.

It is indeed where the bullshit SLAD subscribes to is leading us. We shall see, too late probably, but we shall.

[seemslikeadream]

Show me (us) where SLAD posts bullshit, Harvey. I would love to see it. Also, don't be mean. I am sick of it. Understand that someone on the other end of the line is a person too. She has been on "the line" for a long time here. I don't understand why people have to needle one another in any facet of life, obviously including the Internet.

thank you

[seemslikeadream]

Show me (us) where SLAD posts bullshit, Harvey. I would love to see it. Also, don't be mean. I am sick of it. Understand that someone on the other end of the line is a person too. She has been on "the line" for a long time here. I don't understand why people have to needle one another in any facet of life, obviously including the Internet.

"CIA says Russia interfered with American elections." I pointed out the irony on day one last month, several of us have been pointing out the bullshit.

I wasn't being mean, I was simply pointing out that this is entirely an escalation of the same strategy, probably the same players. It's beginning. Interpret this as meanness if it helps.

It is indeed where the bullshit SLAD subscribes to is leading us. We shall see, too late probably, but we shall.

Assange: Some leaks may have been Russian
BY JOE UCHILL - 12/15/16 05:25 PM EST 384

Assange: Some leaks may have been Russian
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On Sean Hannity’s radio show, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said that hacked Democratic documents sent to reporters at Gawker and The Hill may have come from Russia. But, he said, he is confident the emails he received did not come from the same source.

The Hill and other outlets received documents from a hacker or hackers calling itself “Guccifer 2.0.” Guccifer 2.0 also posted separate documents on its own site. Assange denied knowing Guccifer 2.0 on Hannity's show Thursday.

“Our source is not the Russian government,” said Assange, later claiming WikiLeaks did not receive its material from any state actor, Russia or otherwise.

While the intelligence community agrees that Russia hacked the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Democratic National Campaign Committee, there is dissent over whether the Russians did so with an eye to promoting President-elect Donald Trump or just generally wanting to sow chaos.

Assange has been adamant that Russia did not send the files to his site. In fact, his confirmation that a state actor did not send the hacked emails violates a longstanding WikiLeaks policy of not making any comment about sources.

He did leave the possibility open that Guccifer 2.0’s leaks to the media were a Russian plot.

“Now, who is behind these, we don’t know,” he said. “These look very much like they’re from the Russians. But in some ways, they look very amateur, and almost look too much like the Russians.”
In the Hannity interview, Assange also claimed that WikiLeaks received three pages of information about Trump and the Republican National Convention. It chose not to reprint those documents because they had already been printed elsewhere.

The New York Times reported intelligence officials believe that Russia also hacked the Republican National Committee but chose not to leak those files to prop up the Trump candidacy.

Assange also declined to comment on a Daily Mail report that his confidant Craig Murray flew to the United States to retrieve the documents printed on the site. Murray told the Daily Mail that he met with an intermediary in a wooded area near American University in Washington, D.C., who was handing off the documents on behalf of someone with “legal access” to both the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta emails.

“Craig Murray is not authorized to talk on behalf of WikiLeaks,” Assange said sternly.

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity ... en-russian

[MacCruiskeen]

My first thought was "Archduke Ferdinand". No points for originality, I know.

I'm waiting see exactly how #Liberals will manage to spin this as Putin's fault. They will, no doubt.

[Harvey]

I take it you may not have listened to that interview in full.

[seemslikeadream]

Show me (us) where SLAD posts bullshit, Harvey. I would love to see it. Also, don't be mean. I am sick of it. Understand that someone on the other end of the line is a person too. She has been on "the line" for a long time here. I don't understand why people have to needle one another in any facet of life, obviously including the Internet.

"CIA says Russia interfered with American elections." I pointed out the irony on day one last month, several of us have been pointing out the bullshit.

I wasn't being mean, I was simply pointing out that this is entirely an escalation of the same strategy, probably the same players. It's beginning. Interpret this as meanness if it helps.

It is indeed where the bullshit SLAD subscribes to is leading us. We shall see, too late probably, but we shall.

so who are you blaming for the ambassadors assassination?

[seemslikeadream]

I take it you may not have listened to that interview in full.

oh yes I have apparently you haven't

[Harvey]

My first thought was "Archduke Ferdinand". No points for originality, I know.

I'm waiting see exactly how #Liberals will manage to spin this as Putin's fault. They will, no doubt.

Waiting to see who this guy 'associated with.' It's a dangerous and deliberate provocation which doesn't appear to benefit Turkey. Have they been added to Wesley Clarkes list?

[tapitsbo]

My first thought was "Archduke Ferdinand". No points for originality, I know.

I'm waiting see exactly how #Liberals will manage to spin this as Putin's fault. They will, no doubt.

it's Putin's fault for helping erdogan stay on, duh

expanding the syrian war into a turkish civil war is the humanitarian thing to do!

[Harvey]

I take it you may not have listened to that interview in full.

oh yes I have apparently you haven't

Twice.

[Harvey]

Incidentally, Craig didn't make those claims. He was quick to point out that the Mail had embroidered his story. He simply met the source and that was all he claimed.

[82_28]

Show me (us) where SLAD posts bullshit, Harvey. I would love to see it. Also, don't be mean. I am sick of it. Understand that someone on the other end of the line is a person too. She has been on "the line" for a long time here. I don't understand why people have to needle one another in any facet of life, obviously including the Internet.

"CIA says Russia interfered with American elections." I pointed out the irony on day one last month, several of us have been pointing out the bullshit.

I wasn't being mean, I was simply pointing out that this is entirely an escalation of the same strategy, probably the same players. It's beginning. Interpret this as meanness if it helps.

It is indeed where the bullshit SLAD subscribes to is leading us. We shall see, too late probably, but we shall.

Here. Let me post a non pertinent link that SLAD does not do.

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http://www.thedogisland.com/

Does she post links like that? Yeah, she doesn't. It is always stuff I would never find were it not for her. I can choose to believe or not believe. It's just information that she has come across. Read it or don't. I request as a non mod that people do not give off the vibe of making someone uncomfortable with their "style". That's basically it.

[parel]

To be fair though, lots of "moderate" islamist militants say syria should be part of a new ottoman empire.

Yes, but none of the NATO-backed mercenaries are Syrian.

[tapitsbo]

ok, I wasn't claiming they were

also I noticed that even NATO is making postures of de-escalation (against US military involvement)

but saudi/israel/qatar aren't backing down against Assad obviously