The Keepers

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Re: The Keepers

Postby Elvis » Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:32 am

Thank you, Willow. Just finished part one.
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Re: The Keepers

Postby LilyPatToo » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:34 pm

Also resurfacing. Thank you for those podcast links--they were riveting, Willow. I'm back in therapy (with a very experienced woman who completely accepts that institutionalized abuse exists) and will see if she would like to listen to them too. I hope you're well and I'm so glad to have had a chance to reconnect with you.Take care and keep on painting...
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Re: The Keepers

Postby thrulookingglass » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:16 pm

Why would anyone do this shit? Unfortunately or fortunately for me I know too much about the world to doubt any of these stories as being fictitious. Priests?! Sometimes I think the whole use of religions that encourage belief in demons, djinns and evil spirits is to invoke them. To give them presence in consciousness, like the conjuration of a Tulpa, if you believe they're real, they become real. Life often functions on not what is true, but what is believed. I can't believe that these shockingly evil ventures haven't been exposed to a greater degree. I'm sorry that I'm not surprised to see these issues associated with modern religions such as Catholicism as they are the ones who believe eternal torture/torment is appropriate for correcting someone's misbehavior. The use of torture is the use of evil. How could someone do this to their own child? To what end? What do they hope to achieve? Imperiled are we. Belief in Jesus doesn't just give you a figure-head of a savior, it also helps you believe in the powers of Satan. Often I think the tail is wagging the dog here. Biblical beliefs were fostered to summon evil forces, not that of grace. Human sacrifice, witches, sorcerers, incense, spells, curses, holy waters...danger around every corner in God's world. No one is quicker to believe in "malevolent spirits" than those who practice the big three, Judaism, "Christianity", and Muslim faiths. Disturbing. A truly disturbing world we live in. I say all of this religious horror was created to destroy common human love, to draw lines between us. Let me make this clear, it is we, the collective good, that can change this world on a dime. The world is subdued through the use of fear. Fear God. The use of evil is the greatest waste of time you'll ever find. I fear no evil, just greatly resent the erosion of my own convictions towards a kinder way.

Thanks to those who have come forward. You are brave. My deepest and most sincere apologies that anyone found those measures of behavior as necessary.

I think the poisoning of sex was intentional. Destroy intimacy. Some say that first chakra is an extremely powerful one. Its the most natural and predominant force in male/female pairings.

Sometimes the Zecharia Sitchin model, Sumerian Enki and Enlil theory shouts what we fear to believe. A race created as slaves, to be controlled, whipped when they don't behave, built for menial physical labor and to survive on next to nothing. A creature with little more than bestial wants and desires. The wars of gods and men has left far too many a casualty.

My Goddess is grace. I will accept nothing less than absolution. Jubilation. All debts paid in full. I will celebrate the presence of evil nowhere.

Trauma induced enlightenment? I've learned one thing from trauma, it sucks.

Once with 'the greys' I was transported in thought/form to experience first hand what it was like to be a young jewish girl, clawing into her mother's leg as the group of women were lead into 'the showers'. Everyone knew what was about to happen, they'd heard the stories. The fear in that room is, was, and will always be beyond description. The screams pierced the soul as the gas was turned on. Terror. Occasionally I'm thankful for being provided that level of awareness of shameful human behaviors, though even Hitler's beliefs were probably spurned on by religious hysteria which seem to emanate from the great beyond.

I don't even know what I believe in anymore.

You survivors are brave. Out them. I don't want to see this shit happen to anyone anymore forever. The first step in stopping horrific behaviors is to admit that they happen.

Peace, Love and Grace to all. Compassion negates evil.
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Re: The Keepers

Postby Project Willow » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:59 pm

I often think about you LilyPat, am very glad to hear about your therapist. Hope you're painting as well. My best to you in all things always.

Thrulookingglass, that was one powerful post. My best to you too.

My thanks to all who listened. Be well and take care of yourselves.
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Re: The Keepers

Postby FourthBase » Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:26 pm

I just listened to both parts of the podcast, but shamefully I fell asleep at certain points, because listening to podcasts does that to me. Is it possible in one sentence to describe the corrobating evidence Hoskins discovered?
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Re: The Keepers

Postby Project Willow » Thu Jun 06, 2024 1:13 am

In August, 2022, I met Gemma Hoskins in person. It began with a wild ride through spookville Maryland in a window tinted black SUV with a chain smoking driver who bragged of having concealed carry permits in 50 states. It did not get better. I came home early. At the airport, TSA stopped me for some personal frisking.

Anyway, here's an article by John Potash in Covert Action Magazine. Unfortunately, it's peppered with incorrect data points where incidents I reported are attributed to other survivors. Gemma had the same issue at times. It's understandable in such large, highly detailed cases, but I do wish journalists would take more care. https://covertactionmagazine.com/2023/03/26/abusive-priest-exposed-in-netflix-series-was-trained-under-cias-operation-mk-ultra/
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